Guild Wars 2

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2c2o8c/datamining_upcoming_features_from_the_dragons/

SPvP
109792_0564 Arenas will unlock at PvP rank 9.

don’t you hit r9 after one game these days?

Lux.7169:

don’t you hit r9 after one game these days?

~10k rank points

Xista.7391:

Lux.7169:

don’t you hit r9 after one game these days?

~10k rank points

Which is approximately 30 wins, in hotjoin – or 60 losses.

These numbers are skewed by the time-scaling introduced to hj games. They’re only accurate if players win and were on the map for 8+ minutes* in a match.

Anyway – at least 30 games, and probably 40-50, likely 60 – this rank requirement is the best we can hope for right now. If (when?) ladders come in, those with more experience won’t have anything to worry about (since new players won’t be able to appear in higher-rated ladders without a looong lucky streak) – but until then, any rank restriction is welcome.

Even so… while rank restriction is welcome, a better PvP tutorial would be better! Possibly even one that’s replayable, so non-new players can check it out and possibly even provide constructive feedback – rather than the current one that barely touches on most PvP tactics, and doesn’t suggest/link to any other sources of PvP information.

(slightly related: why is the /wiki command not clearly documented in-game? In my experience, no vaguely inexperienced player has ever heard anything about it. GW1 at least had a wiki searchbox in the f10 help menu!)

*still not quite sure if this is accurate – I’m certain that it’s 7 or 8 minutes (or somewhere in between).

still does not solve 5 vs 4 problem of solo arena though.

On one hand, this would be a good thing for soloQ. On the other hand, people would get an even worse opinion and understanding of beginner pvp b/c hotjoins are VERY BAD competitively (some people apparently care) due to team-stacking.

The might want to test out 6v6 or 7v7 hotjoin servers first, so that its not as zergy as 8v8 but has fewer people swapping around.