Guild Wars 2

Well I am a hotjoin hero as it is called so I guess I’m not that important to listen too. But in my opinion there should not be a singe mode that is missused so much that it ruins the fun for others even if it is practice mode.

Now this game mode is called Practice but players seems to take winning as a must! Before the last update we had the problems of players leaving to easy or switching sides or waiting in spectator untill they can join the winning side.

This leads to maches always being 5Vs4 most of the time. When someone leaves the team with 4 the game starts to take players from team with 5 and as soon as both teams has 4Vs4 someone in spectator Joins the winning team. And there are much more stuff to be done to join the winning team.

I didn’t like to leave a fight but when I notice my team is leaving over and over and over I know that something is wrong so I leave the match. Before the update it was easy to just jump directly in to a new match. Not that I liked the idea of leaving but now it is even worse, now I can’t leave a match without going to lobby and pressing the practice button again usually puts me in the same match I left with the same people who joins the winning team. It is rather hilarious when I see 4-5 players in spectator and about 3-4 players out on the arena.

I can’t find good matches in hotjoin anymore, even if it just for practice I can’t find any good matches to practice my class/build.

Before the update I was able to find a few good matches atleast, now I have only encountered matches with teamswapers and leavers.

Disable teamswaping for any modes atleast.

Honestly, I join hotjoins to spectate due to curiosity (wtb ability to spectate high tier ranked arenas!!!), however I don’t play hotjoins at all (prefer ranked arenas). I guess many players may do the same and that would explain why there are so many spectating people even when teams aren’t full.

It may just be time to relabel it daily (un)happy farm mode.

Morwath.9817:

Honestly, I join hotjoins to spectate due to curiosity (wtb ability to spectate high tier ranked arenas!!!), however I don’t play hotjoins at all (prefer ranked arenas). I guess many players may do the same and that would explain why there are so many spectating people even when teams aren’t full.

Well obviusly they are not only spectating and study… they are spectating and join in on the winning team later on. I myself have been spectating and noticed this.

You do realize that as far as finding a new match goes, you can just pull up the pvp browser and manually select a match. This gives you better matches anyways. Want a match that will most likely be 5v5? Then pick a match that has over 10 players. You may have to wait until they finish their current match, but it does give you a chance to spectate you potential oponents/teammates. Or to jump right in a 5v5 find a match that has 9 players. Or to jump right into a winning match, join a match that has ecen number of players below 10.

Shaogin.2679:

You do realize that as far as finding a new match goes, you can just pull up the pvp browser and manually select a match. This gives you better matches anyways. Want a match that will most likely be 5v5? Then pick a match that has over 10 players. You may have to wait until they finish their current match, but it does give you a chance to spectate you potential oponents/teammates. Or to jump right in a 5v5 find a match that has 9 players. Or to jump right into a winning match, join a match that has ecen number of players below 10.

No I havent tried that, I have noticed that I can though, so I will try thank you. In the end it won’t fix the problem. I myself don’t care for winning, I just wan’t a nice fight with 5Vs5 players from start to the end. I can’t comment yet how it will look in these active arenas but I will have a go at it. But as you say it sounds like there will be players just as usuall joining the winning team as soon as there is a spot open. Like ‘Oh look 4Vs4 and red team has 350 against blue team that has 50, I will join red becouse they needs it’. I don’t wan’t this, I would wan’t for spectators to join loosing team or not join at all, not until loosing team has one more than winning team a player is allowed to join the winning team. A loosing team is a loosing team with 100 scoore below.

As usuall, this is just an opinion.

If you really want “a nice fight with 5v5 players from start to the end” without the pressure of ranked, then it sounds like you should be trying the unranked queue.

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Before the last update we had the problems of players leaving to easy or switching sides or waiting in spectator untill they can join the winning side.

This leads to maches always being 5Vs4 most of the time. When someone leaves the team with 4 the game starts to take players from team with 5 and as soon as both teams has 4Vs4 someone in spectator Joins the winning team. And there are much more stuff to be done to join the winning team.

Disable teamswaping for any modes atleast.

The current (new) problem is the winning profession daily.
You only get it, if you are with the winning team at the end of the match. Before the patch, you’d get the winning reward even if you got switched to the other side.

No, if you are just joining hot-join to complete the daily as quick as possible, there is no point in playing at the loosing side.

I hope this get’s fixed asap.

Rising Dusk.2408:

If you really want “a nice fight with 5v5 players from start to the end” without the pressure of ranked, then it sounds like you should be trying the unranked queue.

Well it should’nt have to be like that… Let’s say I was no Hot Join Hero, let’s say that I only wanted to try out my new build but I end up in a team where one has left becouse I was so bad at my new build and becouse there was another player having ‘W’ pressed running in a wall inside your teams spawnpoint. I myself wo wanna keep testing my build in a real match end up being zerged by five enemies. I get no chanse at all to practice anything and this is so common.

Look at the picture I attached from my recent Hotjoin match, look what this AFKer says about hotjoin. Is this how hotjoin is supposed to work? Is it only made to stay afk until there is a spot open to switch to the winning team? That is what s/he did after being afk in loosing team.

Teutos.8620:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Before the last update we had the problems of players leaving to easy or switching sides or waiting in spectator untill they can join the winning side.

This leads to maches always being 5Vs4 most of the time. When someone leaves the team with 4 the game starts to take players from team with 5 and as soon as both teams has 4Vs4 someone in spectator Joins the winning team. And there are much more stuff to be done to join the winning team.

Disable teamswaping for any modes atleast.

The current (new) problem is the winning profession daily.
You only get it, if you are with the winning team at the end of the match. Before the patch, you’d get the winning reward even if you got switched to the other side.

No, if you are just joining hot-join to complete the daily as quick as possible, there is no point in playing at the loosing side.

I hope this get’s fixed asap.

Not true. You still get the win bonus and all that comes with it if you volunteer for the swap. You just need to play the whole match, so joining midway the match you don’t want to volunteer unless you’re sure you can turn the match around and win.

If you don’t play the whole match, for example abuse the specator mode to swap sides, you don’t get the winning bonus unless you are on the winning side at the end.

Note that even if you are on the losing side, and the autobalance happens, you will get the win bonus for volunteering for the swap, even if you don’t swap and will stay on the losing side for the whole match.

So in fact, the deserters are only making it easier for those who stay the whole match to get their win bonus.

So a short recap how to get the win bonus. Play from the beginning of the match. Press “I volunteer” when it pops up. Play till the end. Done.