Guild Wars 2

So I just had one of those funny little matches where my PUG is getting stomped by a full premade. Nothing new to see here, I get stomped by full premades every day since last year and still keep queueing despite lack of solo queue support (QQ). Perhaps I have hidden masochistic tendencies. Oh well.

What was interesting however, is that this premade which stomped us consisted of players all with ranks 4-6 (all from same guild). While in my team we had one 46, two 30+ and something, cant remember, but all 15+ afair. Now surely someone will say that rank does not equal skill and I will agree with that. But just think about it. How often would you see a team consisting from such low rank players stomping a 30+ team with a score of 500-200? Not much probably. Even if higher ranked team would be less skilled, experience is still something to take into account. What was an anomaly in this case was a single fact that low ranked players actually formed a full balanced premade with a voicecomm. They probably knew how to play and good for them. But I bet my nut that a PUG of rank 4-6 players would not be able to win that. A single fact that you can coordinate your team over voicecomm and send people where they are used best (I was constantly stomped in 3 v 1 skirmishes) will almost ensure you a win in a conquest mode. Sure, I sometimes win vs. premade as a PUG. But this happens like once per 20 matches maybe and with a rather lucky set of variables. All other cases – total stomp. Arena, your matchmaking system keeps stinking like a rotten egg. Too bad since I am one of those people who actually like PvP combat mechanics in GW2.

You only need TIME to level up PvP level………….PvP level means nothing.

You sure it weren’t smurf accounts? Matchmaking will continue to suck until we get our split. This system ‘could’ work if the population that pvp’s would be a lot bigger but even then.

urdriel.8496:

You only need TIME to level up PvP level………….PvP level means nothing.

Yeah sure. And I agree that for example rank 10 player can be a better PvPer from rank 40 player. BUT, in majority of cases you get skill from playing a game a lot. Different people will have different skill caps. But the somehow prelevant rule remains. Same as if you join a fractal group, you can expect that if your team all has 5000+ AP, the run will be much smoother than if all are below 2000. AP are just daily grind yet it still gives people experience. This “rule” works both in PvP and PvE. And as such, I can say that a team of low rank will be at big disadvantage towards a team with high ranks. Except of course if low ranks happens to be in a full premade, an advantage so massive that it overshadows most other things. Some people still dont understand that.

Smurf accounts? I am not sure. But what would be the benefit of a smurf account in GW2? The only one I can see is if you are high ranked on PvP leaderboards and you are affraid to loose the rank. But in this case it should be used when queue solo and such. Why would someone queue on smurf accounts if they are all online and able to form the full premade?

Maybe afraid to test anything outside of the typical meta builds unless on smurfs. Just a possibility.

It’s quite possible that hardcore PVE+ are leaking into pvp after realizing their land of foodbuffs and PveSkills and also Zero balance isn’t very skill based so even they will be strong as say r20-30 at lv5-10

Darnis.4056:

It’s quite possible that hardcore PVE+ are leaking into pvp after realizing their land of foodbuffs and PveSkills and also Zero balance isn’t very skill based so even they will be strong as say r20-30 at lv5-10

No chance. I would argue that Hardcore PvE Players would start at less than Zero Rank. Say -15 Rank and that by the time they hit Rank 10 their really only about a -5.

Have to be Smurf Accounts. I understand that a low level pre-made could beat a high level PUG but not by a 300+ Point Margin, assuming every player on the losing team continues to try and not go Away From Keyboard.

Smurf Accounts are a serious problem, especially when the Leaderboards get to a place where they are some what respectable. Thousands and thousands of people bought GW2 and then quit when they realized the PvP will never be as great as its predecessor. Many of them are never coming back. Thus, friends of friends and guildies all over have plenty of accounts to give away.

By pve+ I meant wvwvw of course :/ there are some medium strength players there..
Smurf accounts? why would anyone do this.. you can just as easily afk your way to a low rank.

Darnis.4056:

By pve+ I meant wvwvw of course :/ there are some medium strength players there..
Smurf accounts? why would anyone do this.. you can just as easily afk your way to a low rank.

Well technically not Smurf Accounts as there is no real Match Making. More like Rating Bombers alt accounts.

Smurf for the win… If you don’t know why people creat smurf account, head to Smurf account topic. All you need to know are in there.