Guild Wars 2

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PvP Rewards

It used to feel quite rewarding winning gems from tournies and not these sad freaking chests that everyone have all the items from… Ok except fused gauntlets and fakjoo if u have them all.

As it is now. I have basically zero income doing PvP… So If I want a nice skin into PvP i need to go farm PvE. Which I feel is freaking dumb. Why would someone who enjoys one aspect of the game be limited of getting stuff like that.

As far as I understood. Ikittenill players in WvW u get loot bags and u get money? I guess ur gear can break in WvW so it is quite reasonable to be able to get money to be able to fight there. But if your good and dont die 24/7 you might be actually making money and if u enjoy it. its win-win situation. I have no clue cuz I’ve barely got more than 2 kills in WvW.

I shouldn’t be able to get gold as its PvE currency… but gold aka PvE currency can be changed into gems.

PvP currency is glory. What glory can be changed? umm.. well after you bought 1000 chests and have all the items you can possibly have. You can change it to materials and turn materials into dyes which turns into gold. But to even get 1 gold by doing that progress you need to waste 10x more time getting the glory to achieve the gold than farming PvE.

I would gladly spend money on this game but freaking 50euros for 4000gems? are you fkking kidding me? The prices are ridiculous. The amount off stuff you get with 4k gems is no where near the satisfaction level I would imagine 50 euros give me. Thats the price of the whole game jeez… If your prices were decent I would actually imagine people using money on gem store.. Oh well theres always some rich kids out there… I think gem store should be available for normal people aswell.

So if your business plan is starving PvP players and making them pay for your server costs I don’t wanna be part off it. If I remember the custom arena games were freaking expensive aswell. Was it 100euros a month? I would gladly pay 10 not 10x more.

You guys have actually added some intresting items to gem store which im glad about. It used to be full off useless crap for 6months.

Ideas: Allow glory to be changed into gems. Be able to buy all skins in the game with glory or be included in a chest.

I really don’t care about gold. I care about skins and fun items from gem store. I would gladly use real money to buy gems and buy the fun stuff but no freaking way if 50euros is 4k gems. and its freaking dumb that im forced to pve to buy skins to pvp. As i would really like to support the game but aswell feel like im getting something in return.

Spectating

I think it would be quite cool to spectate on going tournament games(dota 2 style). I think it would be great for new players and new teams and ofcourse for more experienced teams to get out there without need off a twitch channel. not everyone has that high upload connection…

Ofc you could still have your own little secret place to scrim and test stuff and allow people to spectate if you feel like it but thats even limited to X amount of players.

Solo Que

Copy paste from counter-strike global offensive. You should be informed that your going to commit yourself to be in the game for 15mins max. If you leave. You get penalty off lets say 30mins for leaving a game. If you keep doing it penalty increases.

Being able to report people for bad behavior/throwing games deliberately. Gw2 aint moba. but 1 player can throw the game for you same way as in mobas.

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Purie.9046:

I really don’t care about gold. I care about skins and fun items from gem store. I would gladly use real money to buy gems and buy the fun stuff but no freaking way if 50euros is 4k gems. and its freaking dumb that im forced to pve to buy skins to pvp. As i would really like to support the game but aswell feel like im getting something in return.

My RL money only goes on quaggan backpacks.

Oblivion.8307:

Purie.9046:

I really don’t care about gold. I care about skins and fun items from gem store. I would gladly use real money to buy gems and buy the fun stuff but no freaking way if 50euros is 4k gems. and its freaking dumb that im forced to pve to buy skins to pvp. As i would really like to support the game but aswell feel like im getting something in return.

My RL money only goes on quaggan backpacks.

op quaggan symbolic..

anyway to the topic its so true i mean its such a ripoff the amount of gems u get for the price you have to pay
i cant count how mny times i saw something nice i wanted to buy on the gem store but then i was looking at the gem price and…

The reward system in dota 2 gives you the chance to earn an item from the store every time you finish a game and a guaranteed item every time you level up.

As long as it doesn’t apply to people who leave or go afk I think a similar thing can work in this game. It would encourage more people to enter PvP and play often.
There should also be a chance to earn gems so that you can earn money through playing or sustain a custom server.

I also support the glory->gems conversion

Items that shouldn’t be earnable:
Black Lion Chest Key
Box of Fun
Instant Repair Canister
Revive Orb
Merchant Express
Trading Post Express
Booster Multipack
Karma Booster
Magic Find Booster
Digital Deluxe Upgrade

I agree. However, an alternative solution would be to change tournament chest rewards. I’m close to r40 and i seem to have every single item from it( i might be missing " rarest " ones, but like the OP said all items are used to get materials then..).

It would be interesting to have a similar kind of reward from Heroes Ascent from Guild Wars1, where you could get PvE rarest items there too. Maybe if we were able to exchange 3 tournament chests( to make it fair) for a " PvE chest " where you would get 3 items ( golds generally, with chance for exotics) it could be nice..

Bring back Z-Keys and the problem is solved.

Purie is so right. No one uses glory boosters, because no one wants glory.

Also, why do the pvp finishers in the gemstore have a number of uses?
You paid for that (a lot of money), they should be permanent! And “rank” finishers should be permanent too. I’m tired of getting them in my chests, I have 200+ already.

250 glory boosters in locker and other 100-150+ or something spread around chars…still have 400k+ glory as far as i remember cause i don’t even look at it anymore…

And on release They said glory was going to be pvp world’s money….yeah sure i’m so rich i can’t even buy a decent dye since all i got from something like 250+ pvp unid dyes was plain crap and already gave up on wasting time crafting them..

Still remember when i got my crystalline sword from hoh chest….old good times…

They planned for it to be a steady income instead of a subscription fee.
Decently high prices should be fine, people do end up paying obscene amounts of IRL money for stuff in games like LoL.

Imo the rewards are just tooo bad (being a mediocre game doesn’t help), instead of prices being too high.
If most of the cosmetics you get from PvP were much tougher to get (took allot more than like 1~k glory) and also could be bought with gems… and they looked good… I think it would have been a better setup. Of course it would just cause a larger outlet for outrage (less progression, yada, yada) if the game’s PvP blew.

OP is old news.

Archaon.6245:

250 glory boosters in locker and other 100-150+ or something spread around chars…still have 400k+ glory as far as i remember cause i don’t even look at it anymore…

And on release They said glory was going to be pvp world’s money….yeah sure i’m so rich i can’t even buy a decent dye since all i got from something like 250+ pvp unid dyes was plain crap and already gave up on wasting time crafting them..

Still remember when i got my crystalline sword from hoh chest….old good times…

Haha, aww.
Btw it’s HA weekend, which equals high HA activity! You should drop by~

garethh.3518:

They planned for it to be a steady income instead of a subscription fee.
It does work, people do end up paying obscene amounts of IRL money for stuff in games like LoL.

Imo the rewards are just tooo bad (being a mediocre game doesn’t help), versus prices being too high, imo.
If most of the cosmetics you get from PvP were much tougher to get (took allot more than like 1~k glory) and also could be bought with gems… I think it would have been a better setup. Of course it would just cause a larger outlet for outrage (less progression, yada, yada) if the game’s PvP blew.

I’ve even used more money on cash shops like dota2 and other games. I’ve never used a single dime on gw2 gem store. Only reason being prices being kitten or there being nothing intresting.

The funny thing is i’ve played gw2 more than these other games. But still my money didn’t go to gw2.

KarlaGrey.5903:

OP is old news.

Archaon.6245:

250 glory boosters in locker and other 100-150+ or something spread around chars…still have 400k+ glory as far as i remember cause i don’t even look at it anymore…

And on release They said glory was going to be pvp world’s money….yeah sure i’m so rich i can’t even buy a decent dye since all i got from something like 250+ pvp unid dyes was plain crap and already gave up on wasting time crafting them..

Still remember when i got my crystalline sword from hoh chest….old good times…

Haha, aww.
Btw it’s HA weekend, which equals high HA activity! You should drop by~

Really? o.o

I must find some time to go then, 2-3 runs tomorrow with old friends would be great fun, thank you for the good news

well
the pvprewards are so great;
i stopped opening chests a long time ago …..

I can confirm your statement about making money in only WvW- – the group I run with I die very rarely and am constantly wiping giant zergs. Tho by itself a loot bag is a pitiful form of earning, when you can consistently clean up giant masses of enemies they actually add up decently well. However most casual players can barely break even and some lose gold.

Any amount I make pales in comparison to what a PvE’r could but its reasonably balanced vs how much I need to spend.

I think the Spvp rewards should be completely separate from the game to be fair to the active spvpers, it keeps a level of prestige in that sphere of the game. Which gives spvpers something to work for. A very important concept in MMOs.

Just a unique set that was hard to obtain (see: not from rank as you can just sit in hojoin 24/7 to get it) would be enough. Similar to how hard it was to get Paid tourny gear back in the fall.