Guild Wars 2

Something is not right XD
from time to time I am dropped into PvAI, instead of PvP

http://i.imgur.com/kgzNp4V.png – 3 clone mes + 1 necro MM
http://i.imgur.com/MYGJrT2.png – 3 clone mes VS 1 clone mes + 1 necro MM
http://i.imgur.com/R94aK9p.png – 3 clone mes + 1 necro MM VS 2 clone mes

1. Summon all the AI
2. Target enemy (or not)
3. Press Random buttons
4. ????
5. Profit

You can make any class look like it’s played most if you ONLY show screenshots of games where X class is.

I’d like to have seen how many games were between these screenshots, and if they were hotjoin continued play.

It’s really hard to fight mesmers as a new player, but chin up. Looks like you have a target rich environment of bad new mesmers to practice on.

Zach.3264:

You can make any class look like it’s played most if you ONLY show screenshots of games where X class is.

I’d like to have seen how many games were between these screenshots, and if they were hotjoin continued play.

I have several others, and I’ve decided to take some screenshots after seeing this ridicolous trend.
It’s not just mesmers, there are necros and rangers too

As for your second question, they were in SoloQ.

I tried to make a mesmer with clones yesterday, I find it easier than some other classes, I understand why AI (ab-)users are so common.

I really was able to

Kruptid.2867:

1. Summon all the AI
2. Target enemy (or not)
3. Press Random buttons
4. ????
5. Profit

And this explains why:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Mesmer-damage/3957110

Darnis.4056:

It’s really hard to fight mesmers as a new player, but chin up. Looks like you have a target rich environment of bad new mesmers to practice on.

Thanks

I just spam the the whirling blade (skill 2 on GS for the guardian) as often as I can, and usually all those bad bad scary ghosts go away XD

Well what do you want mesmers to do, stop summoning clones and illusions?

Silvanus.5821:

Well what do you want mesmers to do, stop summoning clones and illusions?

Where did you get that?

Nero Stark.1369:

Silvanus.5821:

Well what do you want mesmers to do, stop summoning clones and illusions?

Where did you get that?

You don’t like clones => You come to the forums and complain => You also indirectly say that mesmers are OP => What do you want? Nerf mesmers, or re-design them from scratch?

Also, you shouldn’t say “clone mes” because all Mesmer builds have clones.

Silvanus.5821:

Nero Stark.1369:

Silvanus.5821:

Well what do you want mesmers to do, stop summoning clones and illusions?

Where did you get that?

You don’t like clones […]

And this one too, where did you get that?

I just posted screenshots showing that many players are using classes or builds that rely heavily on AI.
Other people’s choices are not influenced by what I like or dislike.

Silvanus.5821:

You also indirectly say that mesmers are OP

I was under the impression that NPCs in PvP were a bit OP.
Don’t just take my word for it
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Mesmer-damage/first#post3957110

Perhaps you have a different opinion. Also, perhaps you have an explanation on why so many people (including myself, now) are playing an AI using class.
In MY own experience, now I’m playing a mesmer in PvP half of the time, and I can tell I’m finding it easier compared to other classes I used. However I’m enjoing the game as it is.

So, again, where did you get that I’m asking for a nerf?

You are complaining about AI in PvP, and all three of your screenshots contain “clone” mesmers. It’s pretty logical for someone to assume that you don’t like the mesmer’s clones.

I took part in the identification of the AI bug, it has been fixed 3 days ago, no need to reference old threads. Also, the whole thing about the AI bug was not about clones, it was about phantasms (Which is also why I find it unlikely that you play mesmer half of the time).

I’m asking a legitimate question. You are suggesting that there is a problem with all the AI going on, yet you don’t provide any possible solution. What exactly do you suggest? I understand that perhaps you want to nerf the necro MM build so that necros use different builds. However, EVERY mesmer build has clones. (Which is maybe the reason why you think a relatively high number of players are using AI builds). I don’t really like the whole clone mechanism of the mesmer either, but the only solution is for a complete re-design of the mesmer, which is (probably) never going to happen.

Silvanus.5821:

You are complaining about AI in PvP, and all three of your screenshots contain “clone” mesmers. It’s pretty logical for someone to assume that you don’t like the mesmer’s clones.

Since when does posting screenshots about “something you think is peculiar” equates to “complaining”?
To me it’s funny that a format that should be “PlayerVsPlayer” becomes “PlayerVsAI”.
Why read so much more than that into it?

Silvanus.5821:

I took part in the identification of the AI bug, it has been fixed 3 days ago, no need to reference old threads.

Perhaps you need to be reminded that this thread was opened before the fix, the reference was related to your question
(reread my previous post. Keyword: “were”)

Silvanus.5821:

Also, the whole thing about the AI bug was not about clones, it was about phantasms (Which is also why I find it unlikely that you play mesmer half of the time).

Aren’t you overanalizing my posts? With all your assumptions and “conclusions”, you are missing some clear points: I wrote I’ve been playing mesmer for half of my (PvP) time since the 25th (when I opened this thread). So what?. I’m still calling all the mesmer AI as “clones” (/care), even if they are phantasms, ghosts, banshees or whatever ectoplasms, as much as I’m used to call all necro AI as “minions”, even if they are golems or bone fiends or else.
My fun is just throwing all the clones (whoops, “mesmer AIs”) I can at my enemies with my clone mesmer, hiding here and there to avoid some raging warrior or thief, and then after a while… “profit!”

Silvanus.5821:

I’m asking a legitimate question. You are suggesting that there is a problem with all the AI going on, yet you don’t provide any possible solution. What exactly do you suggest?

Perhaps while I see this just as an amusing thing, your persistence in asking for a solutions means that to you having several PvP matches where half or more of the players are using an AI class (or the same AI class) is a problem that needs a fix?

You are asking a solution to the wrong person. To me:

• this is just a funny thing (it should be plain and clear from the first post),
• it is wasted time. I’m paid to find solutions. I don’t work for free

Silvanus.5821:

I understand that perhaps you want to nerf the necro MM build so that necros use different builds.

Me? What? Is nerf the only answer you’d give?
Perhaps I will try that build too, when I have some time.

(and please, let’s not start with “nerf necro MM”, or someone else will feel the need to defend his pet class)

Silvanus.5821:

I don’t really like the whole clone mechanism of the mesmer either, but the only solution is for a complete re-design of the mesmer, which is (probably) never going to happen.

I agree with the clone mechanism being /meh.
That’s why in GW2 my main is not a mesmer as it was in GW1.

Cheers.

Hmm for some reason I thought this thread was made to complain about all the AI builds. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

I also hate the NPC crap that’s been plaguing PvP lately. IMO all pet classes should be just deleted from all MMOs, but that’s just my opinion. I can live fighting them, most of the time.

to access the pvp portion of pvp you must wade your way through 10,000,000,000 minions, clones, phantasms, pets, spirit weapons, elementals and turrets.
call it a tutorial of sorts to help pve players ease in to pvp with an atmosphere they’re familiar with.

until you unlock the pvp portion of pvp good look hitting an actual player with that downstate interrupt!