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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

Hey guys,
I’ve come up with another PvP guide video designed to help newer pvp’ers out at improving. Some of my previous videos include the Stomping series which helps teach players about the various downed state skills of each profession and how to counter them when attempting a stomp.

The playlist for the Stomping Guides can be found here at
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAhX2Vt8fhBZclmnw3k8GvNBZx-zWW8cH
From there you can navigate to whichever profession you’re specifically looking for.

My new Map Awareness video can be found here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyj1r5GahjM

The intent behind this video is to help those in solo queues to communicate and make firmer decisions based on the current situation their team may find themselves in through the use of the minimap and other means. Should I push far? Is that guy at home okay by himself? Where is that enemy thief? etc.

In tandem with this video I have the opportunity to give back to you guys, promote the youtube channel and get some feedback. Massive props to ARENANET for providing me with gem codes for you guys. I’m new to doing giveaways through youtube so this will most likely change in the future, however here is how this giveaway will function.

I’ll be doing giveaways for THREE lots of 800 gems via gem codes.
To be eligible you have to be subscribed and comment on the “Map Awareness” video.
In a week’s time I’ll draw the three winners ( you can’t win more than once ) and announce the winners on youtube and via twitter. I will PM you the gem codes through youtube. Winners will be drawn randomly.

I’d thoroughly appreciate any feedback on other ideas you guys would like to see and how I can improve. Have a great day everyone!

~Killchain.

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

Evan Lesh

PvP Gameplay Programmer

Awesome! Having in-game examples of what you’re talking about is incredibly helpful. I just feel like I wanted more than 1 example per talking point though!

Bluxgore (80 Warr), Xilz (80 Necro), Ivo (80 Eng)
Bra (80 Guard), Fixie Bow (80 Ranger), Wcharr (80 Ele)
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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

I’ll keep that in mind for next time! Thanks Evan =) I actually have my nice little notepad for things to improve on, haha.

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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

OlrunTheBlade.1486

Look at baby Killchain, trying to improve his content. <3

Captain of Never Lucky [NL]
Competitive Warrior, Ele, Mesmer, Ranger, Engineer, Thief

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Posted by: YourFriendMarvin.4127

YourFriendMarvin.4127

Killchain is also the sensei of stomping Wurms. Attuned

#MostTeamQueueWins before December 2nd, 2014 Patch
[NA]Rank 71 before April 15th, 2014 Feature Patch OG Moltres, 10k Champion Brawler, Team PZ
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Posted by: vincecontix.1264

vincecontix.1264

Great work! this is very useful for new players keep it up.

Shikamaru X Thief, Warrior, Mesmer, Engi(FT leader)
Highest ranked reached 28 soloq
Isle of Janthir

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

Lol marvin <3 …. Olrun time to put on my big boy pants =P Thanks for the support everyone appreciate it sincerely!

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Posted by: Duran.3196

Duran.3196

As for stomping:
almost never do it just deal ae-dmg like no tomorrow much more effective in most cases. Okay Im zerker ele, so thats what i do anyway^^.
On some rare occasions I still stomp but thats very situative.

As for Map Awareness:
A look on the minimap would be very good for some ppl….
Im fed up seeing ppl fight 5 meters (whatever the ingame equivalent ist) next to a point while that point is getting captured.
Or the moment they captured a point and go away someone of enemy team captures that point, but they dont even see that the very moment they left an enemy player captures that point.

Sometimes I just think a lot of players are bots.
Cause I cant imagine so much ppl being blind.

Lack of map awareness annoys me most if I see it from “allies”.
Probably because it’s the most obvious thing if you yourself have map awareness^^
And because Í think thats much easier to get map awareness than mastering your class,
if one is bad at 1v1 or in team fights it is one thing, but in a game mode were map control is basically everything it should be common sense to take a look at the minimap and looking around.

#ELEtism

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

As for stomping:
almost never do it just deal ae-dmg like no tomorrow much more effective in most cases. Okay Im zerker ele, so thats what i do anyway^^.
On some rare occasions I still stomp but thats very situative.

my stomping rule of thumb:

-never stomp eles
-only stomp thieves if you have a blink
-stomping mesmers is bad practice, but doable if you have a blink or if he already teleported
-don’t DPS rangers or warriors unless you can kill them faster than they can use their #3
-stomp everyone else

LegendaryMythril/Zihark Darshell

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Posted by: Duran.3196

Duran.3196

As for stomping:
almost never do it just deal ae-dmg like no tomorrow much more effective in most cases. Okay Im zerker ele, so thats what i do anyway^^.
On some rare occasions I still stomp but thats very situative.

my stomping rule of thumb:

-never stomp eles
-only stomp thieves if you have a blink
-stomping mesmers is bad practice, but doable if you have a blink or if he already teleported
-don’t DPS rangers or warriors unless you can kill them faster than they can use their #3
-stomp everyone else

I can dps rangers faster (usually), but yes once they get their healing up you pretty much have no chance dpsing them
and I dont wanna waste my lightning flash for just stomping.
I usually DPS warriors as well cause I know they interrupt my first stomp, so if they have revenge rdy he uses it at second stomp try or when he gets too low makes no difference for me, if I expect the Warrior to use revenge Ill leave him up to my Elemental and get to a distance where he cant kill me in revenge in order to ralley xD.
Usually I get Guardians down faster with dpsing them than with stomping as well

=> almost never stomp

#ELEtism

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Posted by: Seiishizo.7162

Seiishizo.7162

-don’t afk/leave game at skyhammer

Owner and creator of http://www.gw2score.com
Btw: It’s Sey-Shi-zo ^.^

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

As for stomping:
almost never do it just deal ae-dmg like no tomorrow much more effective in most cases. Okay Im zerker ele, so thats what i do anyway^^.
On some rare occasions I still stomp but thats very situative.

my stomping rule of thumb:

-never stomp eles
-only stomp thieves if you have a blink
-stomping mesmers is bad practice, but doable if you have a blink or if he already teleported
-don’t DPS rangers or warriors unless you can kill them faster than they can use their #3
-stomp everyone else

I can dps rangers faster (usually), but yes once they get their healing up you pretty much have no chance dpsing them
and I dont wanna waste my lightning flash for just stomping.
I usually DPS warriors as well cause I know they interrupt my first stomp, so if they have revenge rdy he uses it at second stomp try or when he gets too low makes no difference for me, if I expect the Warrior to use revenge Ill leave him up to my Elemental and get to a distance where he cant kill me in revenge in order to ralley xD.
Usually I get Guardians down faster with dpsing them than with stomping as well

=> almost never stomp

well i play thief, so blinding/stealthing to avoid interrupts is no problem, and there’s always a teleport to spare :P

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Posted by: Sarrs.4831

Sarrs.4831

if someone’s already stomping a warrior, stand in front of them to soak the hammer rather than starting your own stomp :O

also you may not want to stomp if you have a necro buddy nearby, because it is necromancer tradition to drink the blood of their fallen enemies

Nalhadia – Kaineng

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

On all of my characters except my Necro, I have a skill, utility or tactic that helps me stomp.

Mesmer: Decoy or Distortion before stomp. (Not always needed.)

Ranger: Rampage as One (if still active) or LB #3 for stealth before stomping.

Elementalist: Armor of Earth/Mist Form before stomp.

Warrior: Balanced Stance before stomp.


Eles, Thieves and Mesmers always use downed skill 2 to delay their being stomped. Not much you can do about that.

Blocks, stability or stealth will let you stomp Rangers, Necromancers, Warriors, Guardians and Engineers without issues. (I find that Engineers hardly ever bother trying to stop me though. Not sure why.)

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Posted by: adozu.6398

adozu.6398

^stealth can prevent mesmers #2 as well, provided you were the only target available

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Posted by: kolompi.1287

kolompi.1287

Sometimes I just think a lot of players are bots.
Cause I cant imagine so much ppl being blind.

From what i’ve seen, they ARE that blind. Don’t ask how but they are.

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

Maybe there are too many engineers and thieves around these people IRL? =P

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Posted by: kolompi.1287

kolompi.1287

Maybe, but then why don’t they read what some try to write in chat.

When at 460-435 after having capped 2 points, i ask: “stay close” … just WHY does the ele leave it again so the enemy mesmer has a free cap? The mesmer has been doing that all match long and the ele SHOULD know by now that he does not have the speed to get back in time. So why not at least consider the mini map, the request of team mates and sit on that point? Is it really hard to just not go anywhere?

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

Thats true, that situation is where lets ASSUME they do at least know, theres that mentality of who cares, winning matches has the stigma that it ultimately doesn’t mean anything with leaderboards being the way they are…./shrug it does suck but im sure that’ll change in due course.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

also you may not want to stomp if you have a necro buddy nearby, because it is necromancer tradition to drink the blood of their fallen enemies

well letting the enemy bleed out is only a valid tactic when you know the guy won’t get backup. i’d rather not risk leaving someone unattended because of the necro on my team if the guy has teammates that might try to rez him.

Eles, Thieves and Mesmers always use downed skill 2 to delay their being stomped. Not much you can do about that.

eh, i’d rather get stomped fast so i can respawn fast, unless there’s actually a chance of being rezzed. if i’m just delaying the inevitable, i find i’m better off being stomped than bleeding out or delaying my respawn by 5-10 seconds.

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