Guild Wars 2

Maybe the only way we can get ANet to look at how bad matchmaking is this season is if we actively start boycotting the system.

When teams see they are down 150 to 25, no points capped, maybe it’s time for whole TEAMS to just ALT+F4 out of the game, let the computer pre-determined winners just get their win quicker.

Maybe they will notice THOSE metrics?

Players are already boycotting MM by playing other games (cough OW cough) or other game modes. Have you checked queue times lol?

Cynz.9437:

Players are already boycotting MM by playing other games (cough OW cough) or other game modes. Have you checked queue times lol?

Even unranked is up to 4 and a half minutes -_-

I would rather not stack dishonour.

i started pvp a couple months ago, last month i got to mid saphire as a support ele, this month i got to ruby. I can see however that my winrate is falling and i think its simply because ive reached the point where my relative skill is currently lower or unable to carry in a pug. No idea what this MM is, but feels perfectly normal to me for PUG groups, Pre Ruby you get a boost because of the no division drop and streak boost, in Ruby you don’t – whats the problem?

Question what do you guys suggest?

Season 1 team ques were messed up. This was really bad so season 1 has some serious questions about the MM.

Season 2 they allowed great players to be matched up with other great players. Alot of the players i know and i personally started off the season with 50 so wins with only 1-5 losses. Seriously i got to ruby in 4 days from amber, people who play alot more got to legendary with in the week.

Here we are in season 3 and its a combo of 1 and 2. Shovel face has a complaint/vent thread because hes finding legendary players who do not care about he matches since there is nothing after legendary.

Id also like to point out that everyone who complains about MM and posts videos of there matches are doing alot of things wrong mechanically (which doesnt give the most might/vigor/regen/ etc boons or doesnt give the biggest chance for burst/rezzing) and rotation wise.

1 person posted a video crying MM yet in the match they had home and won a 4 vs 4 mid fight. 2-3 (including the OP of the thread ran far) which had 4-5 players coming off of respawn who then wiped them at far and took mid.

I posted if you guys wanted far 1-2 should of ran far earlier instead of stacking points having 5 people stomp or cleave 2 downed players. Many other players posted some critiques to which the OP of the thread got mad.

Which comes back to the point. Is it eh MM that makes you mad or the PiP system? I hate the PiP system, im sitting here as a rifle warrior winning many 1 vs 1 and doing a majority of the damage in team fights winning these points and i see in the mini map 1-2 players unable to win a 2 vs 2 or 1 vs 1 and i get frustrated because i lose PiPs due to other players unable to hold there own.

I find MM to be alright because no matter the skill level of players im not getting the 500-100 games i had a ton of in season 2.

I made legendary 2 season 1, i made legendary season 2. Im doing more WvW this season since i made the wings in season 2 and because i get frustrated over losing PiPs. I cant say MM is bad just the system in which PiPs are rewarded within the MM.

In seasons 1 and 2, I was able to get to early Sapphire, which is about where I expected to be with my skill. I didn’t really try to get higher because I have no desire to be ‘pro’, I have 2 jobs and a family.

This season, they started me at Emerald. I thought, “Ok, so I can get to sapphire quicker and get out of the way for better people and people more willing to grind.” I was optimistic.

Then I started playing.

It has been utter hell. No teams I get paired with understand even basic rotations. 2 or 3 will go home for their daily point cap. They will enter 4v1 single file at mid.

I just want ANet to tell us, honestly, if the goal this season was to get all semi-casual PvPers to quit in the name of eSports. Cause this is stupid.

I’d rather they just do away with glicko and learn that it’s a team based game and not a solo player game. If they are that hell bent on Glicko, Microsoft has developed an alternative called TrueSkill that is based on Glicko …. At least with TrueSkill, even though its not perfect… it was developed with the purpose of multi player unlike Glicko which was developed for Chess players.

Wolfey.3407:

I’d rather they just do away with glicko and learn that it’s a team based game and not a solo player game. If they are that hell bent on Glicko, Microsoft has developed an alternative called TrueSkill that is based on Glicko …. At least with TrueSkill, even though its not perfect… it was developed with the purpose of multi player unlike Glicko which was developed for Chess players.

Yes please!

This season has been absolute garbage. I’ve never been so frustrated before. It is the worst I’ve ever seen. Total trash.

I have just started playing the PVP thing in the last 2 months. I’ve got 40 some odd games played with 10 wins. My question is how the heck are some of the players are so dang fast?? I have played a Ranger, Elemental, Engineer and a Mesmer so far. A lot of the time your pet gets outrun, you cast a spell and by the time it takes they are long gone or your just dead and you can’t out run then to escape. Are these just super ubber players I’m up against with special gear cause I have gone through the runes and signets nothing there seems to help. Any ideas????

Phantasmal.5631:

This season has been absolute garbage. I’ve never been so frustrated before. It is the worst I’ve ever seen. Total trash.

Oh, but don’t you know? It’s that we are really that bad.

Somehow, between seasons 2 and 3, I went from ‘able to win 35-50% of my games and slowly progress to Division 3 where I figured I fit with my skill’ to ‘Is potatoe.’

Right. Something is messed up with the matchmaking, and now it is too late for Anet to kitten admit to it and fix it.

This post is in direct reply to a forum specialist and is on topic

@Wolfey

The Guild Wars franchise is based on heroism. Almost by definition, that means solo or very small group play.

I think that PvP and HoT have been hijacked by the group follow-the-leader mentality. After all, it’s easier to follow than to make decisions and take responsibility on your own.

The way to improve the pvp game and make the matches reflect individual skill would be to do away with all team play. A pure solo queue would be a far better reflection of each player’s skill.

One of the big problems the matchmaking has right now is that it’s trying to compare groups to groups. This is never going to be practical without some truly excessive accounting records of the performance of every player on both teams.

Wolfey.3407:

I’d rather they just do away with glicko and learn that it’s a team based game and not a solo player game. If they are that hell bent on Glicko, Microsoft has developed an alternative called TrueSkill that is based on Glicko …. At least with TrueSkill, even though its not perfect… it was developed with the purpose of multi player unlike Glicko which was developed for Chess players.

If i may ask,

Have they responded to your suggestion?

I try to see what things are from all angles and i have to admit the PvP seasons MM seem to be different all the time. In season 1 the bunker meta screwed some things up since alot of people could play a bunker mesmer and play better then alot of other classes just because of how OP it was.

Season 2 alot of us went straight to legendary and im wondering if they actually discuss what they want leagues to be? Alot of Pro level players want to stream the game and do it solo queing but they cant because of a number of reasons. Low-mid level players have the screen shot as the gentle person as above. That cant be fun for them either.

There has been a million suggestions and i know you have ran threw a million threads and probably have the best view on it. So im just curious if you have been able to suggest things to them and you saw that they implemented it into the game because of your suggestion?

I already stopped playing PvP, so count me in

I simply stopped queueing and now PVE or WvW.

Stopped pvp after the end of season 2, got my title…so screw this trash system

Consider my name sign on here. I have played only about 4 or 5 matches in the past 30 plus days. a far cry from the 8 hour plus/day before this kitten storm kicked off. Sometimes I just log on the GW2’s spvp lobby to ask other actually current sPvPers their opinions and to gauge if I should make my return, tho the answer’s always NO.

Kylden Ar.3724:

In seasons 1 and 2, I was able to get to early Sapphire, which is about where I expected to be with my skill. I didn’t really try to get higher because I have no desire to be ‘pro’, I have 2 jobs and a family.

This season, they started me at Emerald. I thought, “Ok, so I can get to sapphire quicker and get out of the way for better people and people more willing to grind.” I was optimistic.

Then I started playing.

It has been utter hell. No teams I get paired with understand even basic rotations. 2 or 3 will go home for their daily point cap. They will enter 4v1 single file at mid.

I just want ANet to tell us, honestly, if the goal this season was to get all semi-casual PvPers to quit in the name of eSports. Cause this is stupid.

This is my exact experience last season. I quit playing after 1 very frustrating week.
This season, I played 2 matches at the start of the season to see if there was any change, didn’t find any, and haven’t played since.

the thing about your boycott is not all think MM is bad compare to s1 and s2. gudluck!

Maybe the players that are losing have reached their skill cap? Since you can’t go down in the lower tiers, you’ll advance even with an average 50% win rate. Until you get to the point where you can’t win at all.

Absurdo.8309:

Maybe the players that are losing have reached their skill cap? Since you can’t go down in the lower tiers, you’ll advance even with an average 50% win rate. Until you get to the point where you can’t win at all.

Talking to guys like this is like talking to a potato. No matter how much proof you put in front of their face they will still say that the tumor in their head is not a problem right up until their deaths.

I didn’t even know GW2 any type of skill cap or really much skill involved at all in GW2 spvp. Players are not quitting because they are getting beat by better players. Players are quitting because the dumb match maker stacks teams.

Imagine just for a few minutes what would happen to poker tournaments if the hands was constantly stacked after the fact they had to pay 10 grand for entry into the tournament. Simple after a while NO ONE would play anymore. Kinda what has been happening in GW2’s sPvP atm all time high queues I had someone tell me they had be queued for 90 mins, and that they are logging. It’s like Joe and Ben in a heads up faceup where Ben is getting fed pocket Aces every hand with a Four of a Kind with Aces after every river. I guess in that case too you would say maybe Joe has reached his skill cap which is why he can’t win a hand right?

But again w/e again enjoy standing around for your super long queue because you certainly earned my dear Potato sir.

LOGIC, does anybody left playing GW2’s sPvP have it anymore?