Guild Wars 2

Why? What is the point of queuing up for a PvP match if you don’t intend to finish it? Why are you even playing PvP?

Every single time I use the random PvP queue, without fail, the players on the losing team drop from the match like lemmings off a cliff in EotM. I seriously see people leave after the first time they lose an encounter with the enemy team. The FIRST time. This is an extremely common occurrence.

When I’m on the losing side, I can’t get through 200 points without seeing someone on my team leave. When I’m on the winning side, I can’t get through 200 points without a “team unbalanced” prompt. Are you kidding me?

This is not good game design. There is no other way to put it. Sorry if that’s rude, but it’s true. When people can leave whenever they want with no penalties, they will. Because most people who play PvP in MMOs are ready to quit the first time they lose.

The only thing that stops them in other games is the penalty incurred for leaving. This is mind-boggling. I can’t even wrap my head around why this is being allowed to exist, unattended, as if it’s actually PvP. You support competitive, tournament PvP, so why in the sam heck would you let your random queues be an utter disaster and thereby discourage people from entering the PvP scene, unless they have a dedicated group of friends to enter the PvP scene with?

And before people reply to say it, yes, I’m mad. But I’m making good points and you know it.

P. S. If you think you can ignore this problem, it’s only going to become more noticeable when more people start entering the PvP scene to get the new legendary drops.

Also, to those responding, if you feel the urge to say, “Do unranked arena,” please explain to me then what the point of the random queue is exactly and why entry to the PvP scene is a usability nightmare.

Well I have around 85 unranked games played now but I’ve only seen 2 4 vs 5s on my team, none on enemy team yet.

Yep, PvPers need to learn how to lose graciously. Cutting and running at just the mere thought of losing is, like, what? Some sort of emotional and/or mental instability? Gotta be.

Labjax.2465:

When I’m on the losing side, I can’t get through 200 points without seeing someone on my team leave. When I’m on the winning side, I can’t get through 200 points without a “team unbalanced” prompt. Are you kidding me?

From this I will assume you join custom hotjoin matches, nothing wrong with that either but it’s just a hotjoin. People come and go through those matches just trying to get dailies done, some quick kills or warm up or what ever..

If you don’t want that, join unranked or ranked ques, there’s still afks from time to time but atleast it’s a 5v5 locked into the team and game until there’s a winner.

sephiroth.4217:

Labjax.2465:

When I’m on the losing side, I can’t get through 200 points without seeing someone on my team leave. When I’m on the winning side, I can’t get through 200 points without a “team unbalanced” prompt. Are you kidding me?

From this I will assume you join custom hotjoin matches, nothing wrong with that either but it’s just a hotjoin. People come and go through those matches just trying to get dailies done, some quick kills or warm up or what ever..

If you don’t want that, join unranked or ranked ques, there’s still afks from time to time but atleast it’s a 5v5 locked into the team and game until there’s a winner.

Where do I start with unranked tho? I got no idea what I’m doing. I mean, I’m passable at 1v1 if I’m facing somebody as nubbish as me, but I got no idea how to do team PvP in this game, other than hitting buttons that seem right and praying.

I’m the kinda guy who doesn’t want to go into a semi-serious match, unless I can be reasonably good at contributing.

Labjax.2465:

sephiroth.4217:

Labjax.2465:

When I’m on the losing side, I can’t get through 200 points without seeing someone on my team leave. When I’m on the winning side, I can’t get through 200 points without a “team unbalanced” prompt. Are you kidding me?

From this I will assume you join custom hotjoin matches, nothing wrong with that either but it’s just a hotjoin. People come and go through those matches just trying to get dailies done, some quick kills or warm up or what ever..

If you don’t want that, join unranked or ranked ques, there’s still afks from time to time but atleast it’s a 5v5 locked into the team and game until there’s a winner.

Where do I start with unranked tho? I got no idea what I’m doing. I mean, I’m passable at 1v1 if I’m facing somebody as nubbish as me, but I got no idea how to do team PvP in this game, other than hitting buttons that seem right and praying.

I’m the kinda guy who doesn’t want to go into a semi-serious match, unless I can be reasonably good at contributing.

Why wouldn’t you be doing unranked? It’s called UNranked for a reason -it’s not serious. Yeah obviously people still want to win, but you’re never going to be able to PvP if you’re too afraid of offending someone.

And really the fact that you realize that you’re underskilled puts you ahead of a lot of players.

This has been posted a million times. Stop playing Hotjoin.

Hotjoin is hotjoin. Sometimes I join and leave because I’m trying out a new build. I’ve even left the winning team because I just “hot joined” just to try something out.

If you want people to not leave, you can try ranked queue but be prepared to get frustrated if you only solo queue. I stopped bothering with pvp past dailies because all I get are noobs who don’t even know how to cap points and I’m against premades that are just farming pugs.

Crinn.7864:

Why wouldn’t you be doing unranked? It’s called UNranked for a reason -it’s not serious. Yeah obviously people still want to win, but you’re never going to be able to PvP if you’re too afraid of offending someone.

And really the fact that you realize that you’re underskilled puts you ahead of a lot of players.

You’re right and I needed to hear that. (I just did an unranked and it wasn’t bad at all.)

I still hold, however, that the current setup isn’t very good for getting people new to GW2 PvP acclimated to it. Particularly if they are new to PvP as a whole. I mean, I’m relatively new to GW2 PvP, but more or less a video game veteran with some experience in PvP and it took someone telling me to do it (and then trying it) to realize that unranked arena is basically like other games’ version of normal PvP queues.

I see the word arena and my reflex is to think that it’s serious. I don’t know why they use the word arena when the connotation is usually for serious PvP. Putting the word unranked in there doesn’t really help, since somebody new to GW2 isn’t gonna know how ranks work in the first place.

Add to that that the easy-to-notice Play Now button says nothing about what it’s for and gets you into a game faster than unranked, so it’s more appealing already. There is no description, for example, that says, “Play Now is a come-and-go setup with no penalties incurred from stepping in and out” (or some such thing).

It probably sounds like I’m being nit-picky here, but this is the kind of stuff that can confuse people, believe it or not. It’s all a part of usability.

You’re exactly right Labjax, there isn’t a really good indication to point new pvpers in the right direction. Hopefully with leagues and matchmaking changes that should get fixed.

Some advice I would give is just let people on your team know at the start of a match that you’re new and still learning. With matchmaking being kitten, most veteran players understand that new people are trying their hardest and that can’t help that they got put against dragons as a rabbit.