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Posted by: Koto.1824

Koto.1824

Now I know I’ve already made a topic about this, but I feel like it’s gotten even worse. Everyone is complaining about everything is OP. See the problem? EVERYTHING is OP. If everything is OP, nothing is OP. There is always something about a build that has it’s purpose, but if everyone has this toxic attitude towards basically every class in the game except for ele’s, it’s gonna screw the game up even more. I’m gonna list what I’ve heard about the classes.

Warrior: Too many stuns, condi clears, condi warrior has too much sustain, power warrior has too many stuns and burst.

Guardian: Traps are too powerful, too many blocks and heals, point denial, too many defensive CD’s, low skill ceiling

Revenant: OP against power builds, sustain, boon output, mobility

Ranger: Too much healing, bunker, pet dmg, kiting, stealth

Engineer: Stability, sustain, CC’s, gyro’s, condi’s

Thief: Evades, mobility (decap), burst, condi’s, interrupts, stealth, traps

Necro: Condis, Minions, signets,

Ele: Nothing

Mesmer: Interrupts, condi burst, invulnerability/blocks, elite+split

It’s ok to point out if a class needs a nerf to a particular mechanic or ability, but don’t complain about a class that is perfect where it is.

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Posted by: Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

Don’t even try. They will never kittening learn. I’m convinced that this toxicity is simply part that will never ever resolve itself. It’s this kind of kitten in which classes get nerfed into oblivion. Even after the nerf bats on thiefs, warriors and supbar DH’s in the past. the community doesn’t learn how rigi A-net’s balancing method is. And that thier words have power. So when this kitten happens where a class becomes kitten. people will then complain for having those players that play thief or warriors in thier team.

The problem is that people ask not just for slight nerfs, but substantial nerfs at core survivability or damage mechanics of a class without anything else in place or some kittenty substitute. For example people asking for thiefs evades to be dealth with even tough they litterally got stealth nerfed with an 1 sec CD on stealth attack. Or people who have a problem with everything of DH, Yes certain thiefs have saids for this, (U know who u are), Or for targeting to Always target the real mesmer,

While A-net is also to blame for such mistakes made in balance. It’s the vocal part that ask for these massive nerfs even if they weren’t exactly as how the balance team balanced it.

getting an actual dialogue between the forum community is hard. When an certain players actually try to give more insight on how to combat thier class. It quickly devolves into. OP u just trying to defend your class from an incoming nerf, hurr, durr, durr.

I think bymyself, No kitten, Who wouldn’t do the same in that situation?

So yeah, expect more, Perma evade thief, DH are super OP, can do trap damage and bunker at the same time(even tough they are different builds), Warrior is permanetly immune to conditions and power damage, Mesmers make too many clones and it’s impossible to cleanse conditions. Elementalists are absolute trash somehow. There is no nuance, The few posters who actually don’t speak in absolutes get thier voices overshadowed be them nerfs or buffs. If they are discussing nerfs, It’s never enough. The class must become absolute kitten. If they are asking for buffs, Some greedy motherkittener comes here and asks for overbuffs. Like condi cleanse on stunbreak(you know who u are as well).

I’ve come to believe that this is a jungle. Heck even trashtalking Helseth tried to be serious adressing certain issues in pvp, But ofcourse he’s just a mere A-net dog with no opinion whatsoever. He’s also just somebody that get’s carried by conditions appearantly. So far I’ve seen Countless or Countess actually responded with contstructive critism to his vid.

You are better off just barking at any fool that tries to nerf your class to kitten. If u are DH that get’s kitten from thiefs kitten him. If u are a druid that get’s kitten from DH, kitten him. If u Multi class and happen to agree with somebody,Don’t consider them your allies. Consider them people with whom u have temporarily the same interest in.

This kitten is so bad, That litterally my own kittening teammates in unranked are talking kitten to me for playing a kittening bunker DH. I bunker mid. against 2 for several minutes. i hold 1 v 3 for 1.30 minutes after bien beaten on by 2 guys repeatedly. I’m convinced now that certain people clkittene is so kittening bad that I never think that u will get a proper dialogue for the majority of it.

Then again it makes sense. A game divides players virtually as well like race, sex, skin colour, religion does etc.

DH vs Thief Hate vice Versa
Every class has a problem Revenants

etc.

When u get kitten talked by your own kittening teammates for bunkering 1 v 3. That was pretty much the straw that made me lose all hope in this community. I’m really just hereto vividly defend one of the classes I play/from stupid nerf this, nerf that arguments when i feel like it, Really here, But really just here to bring the same amount of hate and Salt back. Since. Nobody at the forums here is my ally. They are simply my future enemies.

(edited by Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318)

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

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Now I know I’ve already made a topic about this, but I feel like it’s gotten even worse. Everyone is complaining about everything is OP. See the problem? EVERYTHING is OP. If everything is OP, nothing is OP. There is always something about a build that has it’s purpose, but if everyone has this toxic attitude towards basically every class in the game except for ele’s, it’s gonna screw the game up even more. I’m gonna list what I’ve heard about the classes.

Warrior: Too many stuns, condi clears, condi warrior has too much sustain, power warrior has too many stuns and burst.

Guardian: Traps are too powerful, too many blocks and heals, point denial, too many defensive CD’s, low skill ceiling

Revenant: OP against power builds, sustain, boon output, mobility

Ranger: Too much healing, bunker, pet dmg, kiting, stealth

Engineer: Stability, sustain, CC’s, gyro’s, condi’s

Thief: Evades, mobility (decap), burst, condi’s, interrupts, stealth, traps

Necro: Condis, Minions, signets,

Ele: Nothing

Mesmer: Interrupts, condi burst, invulnerability/blocks, elite+split

It’s ok to point out if a class needs a nerf to a particular mechanic or ability, but don’t complain about a class that is perfect where it is.

Bahaha can’t take OP seriously he says Thief Traps are op In Spvp bahahahha ha greatest thing I have seen all day.

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Posted by: Koto.1824

Koto.1824

Now I know I’ve already made a topic about this, but I feel like it’s gotten even worse. Everyone is complaining about everything is OP. See the problem? EVERYTHING is OP. If everything is OP, nothing is OP. There is always something about a build that has it’s purpose, but if everyone has this toxic attitude towards basically every class in the game except for ele’s, it’s gonna screw the game up even more. I’m gonna list what I’ve heard about the classes.

Warrior: Too many stuns, condi clears, condi warrior has too much sustain, power warrior has too many stuns and burst.

Guardian: Traps are too powerful, too many blocks and heals, point denial, too many defensive CD’s, low skill ceiling

Revenant: OP against power builds, sustain, boon output, mobility

Ranger: Too much healing, bunker, pet dmg, kiting, stealth

Engineer: Stability, sustain, CC’s, gyro’s, condi’s

Thief: Evades, mobility (decap), burst, condi’s, interrupts, stealth, traps

Necro: Condis, Minions, signets,

Ele: Nothing

Mesmer: Interrupts, condi burst, invulnerability/blocks, elite+split

It’s ok to point out if a class needs a nerf to a particular mechanic or ability, but don’t complain about a class that is perfect where it is.

Bahaha can’t take OP seriously he says Thief Traps are op In Spvp bahahahha ha greatest thing I have seen all day.

I was talking about perma stealth thief which is total cancer in WvW

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

BlaqueFyre.5678

Now I know I’ve already made a topic about this, but I feel like it’s gotten even worse. Everyone is complaining about everything is OP. See the problem? EVERYTHING is OP. If everything is OP, nothing is OP. There is always something about a build that has it’s purpose, but if everyone has this toxic attitude towards basically every class in the game except for ele’s, it’s gonna screw the game up even more. I’m gonna list what I’ve heard about the classes.

Warrior: Too many stuns, condi clears, condi warrior has too much sustain, power warrior has too many stuns and burst.

Guardian: Traps are too powerful, too many blocks and heals, point denial, too many defensive CD’s, low skill ceiling

Revenant: OP against power builds, sustain, boon output, mobility

Ranger: Too much healing, bunker, pet dmg, kiting, stealth

Engineer: Stability, sustain, CC’s, gyro’s, condi’s

Thief: Evades, mobility (decap), burst, condi’s, interrupts, stealth, traps

Necro: Condis, Minions, signets,

Ele: Nothing

Mesmer: Interrupts, condi burst, invulnerability/blocks, elite+split

It’s ok to point out if a class needs a nerf to a particular mechanic or ability, but don’t complain about a class that is perfect where it is.

Bahaha can’t take OP seriously he says Thief Traps are op In Spvp bahahahha ha greatest thing I have seen all day.

I was talking about perma stealth thief which is total cancer in WvW

Nope, no redemption this a pvp titled thread in the pvp forums so no , and it’s not op there it is just highly annoying.