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Posted by: Lost Elegy.9276

Lost Elegy.9276

The Player Vs Player in this game is beyond a complete joke. Several class mechanics make little to no sense to begin with, and mesh horribly when put together with a mosh pit of chaos.

Invisibility in this game is boring, uncreative and plain annoying. Not only does striking the target NOT reveal them, but it interrupts the flow of combat due to the length of these invisible skills.

Mesmers. Whoever created this class has more than a few things wrong with their head. A class that has invisibility, every buff and debuff in the game, create images of themselves and STILL have damage on par if not better than most classes in both sustained AND burst situations? God, i wonder why structured PvP is flooded with Mesmers. Does it have something to do with the fact they’re flat out amazing and overshadow most classes? To test this theory, I went into a room with a level 1 Mesmer. Never played it before in my LIFE. No guides. Just me slamming my faceon the keys. The damage was obscene. I was unable to die. My healing, Evasive Skills and damage just flat outdid anything the enemy team had.

Thieves. They are in such a pathetic state it makes me laugh. Not only are they unable to kill any decent player in the game 1v1, they are amazingly easy to kill unless they abuse stealth to the max. Which, of course, makes them both a boring class to fight AND play. Not even in PvE is this class desired for anything outside BATTLE RESSURECTIONS. Every MMO in recent memory has UTTERLY failed at making a glass cannon stealth class that quickly kills enemies. They always fall into this useless spot of doing not enough damage AND still being easy to kill.

Rangers. Oh, GOD. This JOKE of a class. In addition to having the longest range out of any class in the game, they have little to no skill requirement and have the cliche pet STAPLED to your character. You can’t unsummon. You can’t even KILL IT. So, in keeping with the mindless Ai of your undying, immortal pet, you, too, as a ranger, are mindless when playing. Every button you press does damage. You just mash whatever comes off cooldown. There is no aiming. There is no damage falloff due to long ranges. There is NOTHING interesting about this class. If you’re tacking on a ranged character JUST to fill the role, you’re doing it wrong. And TRUST me, Anet did Rangers WRONG.

Elementalists. Oh JOY. The FUN part. I do have to wonder what Anet thought when they were making this piece of garbage. “Let’s give a class the ability to swap between amazing CC, Healing and Burst Damage on a very low cooldown. We’ll also give it amazing defensive and evasive abilities so fighting it becomes as annoying as fighting a Mesmer. But hey, they can only use ONE WEAPON, so it’s balanced, right? 4 Weapon Bars isn’t as OP as two! … Wait?” Pro PvP teams have anywhere from 2 to 3 of these god kitten things. They’re a kittenING REQUIREMENT for a PvP team because of how absurdly strong they are. They have HUGE AoEs, HIGH burst and are HARD TO KILL. OH, don’t worry! They have a key weakness! COOLDOWNS. You know, THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER CLASS IN THE GAME. I also heard they have another weakness: When they lose all their HP, it is rumored that they die. Don’t take my word for that though.

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Posted by: Lost Elegy.9276

Lost Elegy.9276

I’m not even going to WAIT for Blade and Soul to drop this kitten. GOOD BYE, Guild Wars 2. Not even kittening once could you do PvP right. It’s a joke. It truly, really is.

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Posted by: Supreme.3164

Supreme.3164

I’m just glad not all new players react like this, may you find peace in Blade and Soul…sayonara

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Posted by: OneKlicKill.4285

OneKlicKill.4285

While I agree with you that the PvP has some balance issues almost not a single one of your rants are accurate.

Also on the what class are you I chose Thief as my guess.

Thief are quite strong in the hands of a good user. And Good teams are always running them
Mesmer are verystrong, but they are high risk high reward. Pro teams are running them often as well.
Rangers hit 2 to win, the could use some more advanced mechanics, the longbow is a easy as hell weapon.
Ele you shouldnt be 1v1ing them, they are an attrition class and usually win at it. although they have been falling out of the meta to shoutbow for months and have had the same metabuild since beta, so not like they are anything new to deal with.

Its fine to complain about problems but the problems you identified are incorrect.

Please skill/trait split and give control to the PvP team. Karl is fucking killing us

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Posted by: Siva Mira.3546

Siva Mira.3546

You might want to play Puzzle Bobble. That game has the PvP you desire. Everyone is equal in that game. It won’t disappoint you, I promise.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

You should probably learn game mechanics before you start posting game reviews… for starters Thieves are one of the best 1v1 classes in the game.

Seriously. take a big dose of L2P.

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Posted by: Shadow.1345

Shadow.1345

Maybe you meant a level 2 mesmer since you have to get out of the starting area first and that automatically gives you 1 level. Plus mesmers die all the time. Don’t have a clue why you consider them unkillable.

Thief requires the L2P buff to be effective. You must have forgotten to get that buff.

Ranger pets can be killed. You just stab them enough times. Not that many people focus on them but still, can be done.

Elementalists have crap for health and even worse armor than thieves. Just wait until they are in lightning or fire and do all the damage you can on them.

Whoever made this rant must have something wrong with their head.

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Posted by: Chapell.1346

Chapell.1346

Elementalists. Oh JOY. The FUN part.

Battle Mage! high five anet

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Between a master and apprentice, i would love to see the differences.

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Posted by: Anhomedog.7968

Anhomedog.7968

It always gives me a chuckle to read these threads. I have an idea…oh this is a marvelous idea. If you dont like the game….dont play it. Last time I checked, no one is making you play, so if you dont enjoy it, play something else.

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Posted by: PistolWhip.2697

PistolWhip.2697

I’m just glad not all new players react like this, may you find peace in Blade and Soul…sayonara

Evidently there isn’t enough pixelated boobage for this young man to stare at during his intense fap sessions in matchmaking queue. Blade and Soul is the only other viable choice.

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Posted by: serenke.4806

serenke.4806

I’m pretty sure if you would look more into how each class work you would not write the same post again. The effort and time it took to make this post could have been spent reading up on those things you found problematic.

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Posted by: uhohhotdog.3598

uhohhotdog.3598

I hear tic tac toe is balanced

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Posted by: Father Busho.2796

Father Busho.2796

When i read the thread title I agreed with you.

But when you started listing plain kittened arguments I realized this must be a pro troll or you are a new player.

If you think mesmers are OP you have a huge L2P issue.
If you think thieves can’t kill 1v1, you obviously don’t play pvp enough.

Stealth is NOT OP (annoying or boring is another thing) it is predictable and has counterplay, even getting more counterplay in HoT.

Rangers (power) are A JOKE in pvp, thy get ganked/die on touch. If you cant bait their invulnr skill, or cant dodge immobili\e or rapid fire, L2P.

Eles are only OP with cele amulet and not as a class. Cele is getting toned down in Hot.

Please stop posting kittened arguments and either play more and learn skills and classes, or quit and go play hello kitty online which has pvp on a level suitable for you.

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Posted by: Akikaze.1307

Akikaze.1307

I hear tic tac toe is balanced

Tic Tac Toe is not balanced, whoever starts first wins. IMBA!!

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Posted by: uhohhotdog.3598

uhohhotdog.3598

I hear tic tac toe is balanced

Tic Tac Toe is not balanced, whoever starts first wins. IMBA!!

Not if you know how to play. It ends in a tie every game. That’s as balanced as you can get.

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Posted by: kdaddy.5431

kdaddy.5431

I wish there was a way to report what everyone thought of the post and it sends it to this guy. I for one am seeing alot more posts from people. I find mesmers and thieves to be the hardest to win 1 vs 1 against since they can go invisible heal and comeback and im still sitting there feeling like a fool.

Anet please just give us the option for a thumbs up or down on this persons comment

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Posted by: Pandeh.5248

Pandeh.5248

Can i have ur stuff?

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Posted by: Darksteel.8412

Darksteel.8412

The Player Vs Player in this game is beyond a complete joke. Several class mechanics make little to no sense to begin with, and mesh horribly when put together with a mosh pit of chaos.

Invisibility in this game is boring, uncreative and plain annoying. Not only does striking the target NOT reveal them, but it interrupts the flow of combat due to the length of these invisible skills.

Mesmers. Whoever created this class has more than a few things wrong with their head. A class that has invisibility, every buff and debuff in the game, create images of themselves and STILL have damage on par if not better than most classes in both sustained AND burst situations? God, i wonder why structured PvP is flooded with Mesmers. Does it have something to do with the fact they’re flat out amazing and overshadow most classes? To test this theory, I went into a room with a level 1 Mesmer. Never played it before in my LIFE. No guides. Just me slamming my faceon the keys. The damage was obscene. I was unable to die. My healing, Evasive Skills and damage just flat outdid anything the enemy team had.

Thieves. They are in such a pathetic state it makes me laugh. Not only are they unable to kill any decent player in the game 1v1, they are amazingly easy to kill unless they abuse stealth to the max. Which, of course, makes them both a boring class to fight AND play. Not even in PvE is this class desired for anything outside BATTLE RESSURECTIONS. Every MMO in recent memory has UTTERLY failed at making a glass cannon stealth class that quickly kills enemies. They always fall into this useless spot of doing not enough damage AND still being easy to kill.

Rangers. Oh, GOD. This JOKE of a class. In addition to having the longest range out of any class in the game, they have little to no skill requirement and have the cliche pet STAPLED to your character. You can’t unsummon. You can’t even KILL IT. So, in keeping with the mindless Ai of your undying, immortal pet, you, too, as a ranger, are mindless when playing. Every button you press does damage. You just mash whatever comes off cooldown. There is no aiming. There is no damage falloff due to long ranges. There is NOTHING interesting about this class. If you’re tacking on a ranged character JUST to fill the role, you’re doing it wrong. And TRUST me, Anet did Rangers WRONG.

Elementalists. Oh JOY. The FUN part. I do have to wonder what Anet thought when they were making this piece of garbage. “Let’s give a class the ability to swap between amazing CC, Healing and Burst Damage on a very low cooldown. We’ll also give it amazing defensive and evasive abilities so fighting it becomes as annoying as fighting a Mesmer. But hey, they can only use ONE WEAPON, so it’s balanced, right? 4 Weapon Bars isn’t as OP as two! … Wait?” Pro PvP teams have anywhere from 2 to 3 of these god kitten things. They’re a kittenING REQUIREMENT for a PvP team because of how absurdly strong they are. They have HUGE AoEs, HIGH burst and are HARD TO KILL. OH, don’t worry! They have a key weakness! COOLDOWNS. You know, THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER CLASS IN THE GAME. I also heard they have another weakness: When they lose all their HP, it is rumored that they die. Don’t take my word for that though.

tho I do think with all the utilty/stealth/teleports/clones/invuln spam etc the mesmer has they could easily tone down the burst damage by 33% (yes easily) and bows (yes all) should lose at least 25% damage on range over 1000 on rangers case the damage would still be insane just abit better to deal with. Let the you’re noob l2dodge comments commence

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Posted by: Tao.1234

Tao.1234

Drop your elitism and l2p Mr. OP.

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Posted by: Kicker.8203

Kicker.8203

You have no idea about balance therefore you shouldn’t post complaints after playing the game for 3 days.

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Posted by: Darksteel.8412

Darksteel.8412

well he is right about mesmer, either 15k+? near spammable bursts ranged…if that fails 10k+ invi bursts on sword (or used as a survivabilty tool)…if that somehow fails, stealth teleport escape… mesmer is beyond brokenly overpowered. did he mention all the clones etc? there realy is no excuse whatsoever (except vs thieves) for mesmer to fail in any other situation vs anything at anytime…die as a mesmer vs non hardcore thief and you’re just extremely terrabad…this comment isn’t ment to anyone in particular here btw. and yes mesmer is much much MUCH easier to play than warrior or even ranger…denying it is just lulz

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Posted by: Tao.1234

Tao.1234

well he is right about mesmer, either 15k+? near spammable bursts ranged…if that fails 10k+ invi bursts on sword (or used as a survivabilty tool)…if that somehow fails, stealth teleport escape… mesmer is beyond brokenly overpowered. did he mention all the clones etc? there realy is no excuse whatsoever (except vs thieves) for mesmer to fail in any other situation vs anything at anytime…die as a mesmer vs non hardcore thief and you’re just extremely terrabad…this comment isn’t ment to anyone in particular here btw. and yes mesmer is much much MUCH easier to play than warrior or even ranger…denying it is just lulz

What are you talking about?

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Posted by: Darksteel.8412

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well he is right about mesmer, either 15k+? near spammable bursts ranged…if that fails 10k+ invi bursts on sword (or used as a survivabilty tool)…if that somehow fails, stealth teleport escape… mesmer is beyond brokenly overpowered. did he mention all the clones etc? there realy is no excuse whatsoever (except vs thieves) for mesmer to fail in any other situation vs anything at anytime…die as a mesmer vs non hardcore thief and you’re just extremely terrabad…this comment isn’t ment to anyone in particular here btw. and yes mesmer is much much MUCH easier to play than warrior or even ranger…denying it is just lulz

What are you talking about?

take a seat…lean back abit relax…it’s ok boy it’s only a game…don’t always have to lie and pretend people that are 5000% spot on are silly or kittened….for many many people already know this about mesmer…realy boy it’s only game it realy is relax boy relax calm down boy

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

eles, thieves and mesmers are ANET’s babies, engie will become one too on 23. june.
other classes will be audience.

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Posted by: Darksteel.8412

Darksteel.8412

eles, thieves and mesmers are ANET’s babies, engie will become one too on 23. june.
other classes will be audience.

this^

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Posted by: Tao.1234

Tao.1234

take a seat…lean back abit relax…it’s ok boy it’s only a game…don’t always have to lie and pretend people that are 5000% spot on are silly or kittened….for many many people already know this about mesmer…realy boy it’s only game it realy is relax boy relax calm down boy

I don’t know what you’re on about and what you’re taking either.
Every class can burst any other with a blink of an eye.

Thief goes down faster only because it has at least 5k HP and bit armor less than others in same build(Guardian too, but Vitality formula for it is epic).

If you got yoloed in one burst rotation, then it’s your fault, not of that class design.

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Posted by: Father Busho.2796

Father Busho.2796

Hint: when you see a mesmer go in steath via torch, dodge in 3s.
Hint2: when you see a flying pink sword, dodge.
Hint3: mesmer will not use mass inviz until low on HP.
Hint4: condi dump them, ????, PROFIT.
Hint5: in Ranked, target the mesmer first (if no necro) and see the results (lying dead in 5sec).

And the fact you said mesmer is easier to play than warrior… just lol. Please, go play zerk mesmer against someone that knows what they are doing to verify your statement.

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Posted by: Darksteel.8412

Darksteel.8412

take a seat…lean back abit relax…it’s ok boy it’s only a game…don’t always have to lie and pretend people that are 5000% spot on are silly or kittened….for many many people already know this about mesmer…realy boy it’s only game it realy is relax boy relax calm down boy

I don’t know what you’re on about and what you’re taking either.
Every class can burst any other with a blink of an eye.

Thief goes down faster only because it has at least 5k HP and bit armor less than others in same build(Guardian too, but Vitality formula for it is epic).

If you got yoloed in one burst rotation, then it’s your fault, not of that class design.

i get burst often and i burst often….my analasys based on those bursts is…health and even armor hardly matter at all…it’s all about mobilty stealth and instagib bursts…whom the stealth classes excell at hardcore more then any other (ps. except for the terrabad rifle warrior can’t instaburst any at all not even close, yes evis fails hard even when fully traited) again armor and health mean nothing….it’s about being lightning fast aka suddenly strike from stealth in mesmer case with alot of distraction…mesmer is brokenly overpowered more then any other class in gw2 except for thief…the 2 favourites of Anet. balance would be: if a class has acces to stealth AND even teleports….then those classes should be the classes with hands down the lowest damage output….for health and armor don’t matter with bursts this high. just my opinion tho……… it’s all about bursting from stealth if that somehow fails…it’s required you have insta teleport away or if that’s on cd stealth your way and continue….severly and extremely in advantage over tbh…all other classes and specs even…this includes the heavily overrated shoutbow wich is about 0% fun to play anyway…ask anyone in hotm about how much fun shoutbow is to play….no one likes it, cause it is no fun it is slow and boring and bulky

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Posted by: Darksteel.8412

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Hint: when you see a mesmer go in steath via torch, dodge in 3s.
Hint2: when you see a flying pink sword, dodge.
Hint3: mesmer will not use mass inviz until low on HP.
Hint4: condi dump them, ????, PROFIT.
Hint5: in Ranked, target the mesmer first (if no necro) and see the results (lying dead in 5sec).

And the fact you said mesmer is easier to play than warrior… just lol. Please, go play zerk mesmer against someone that knows what they are doing to verify your statement.

it’s not like the mesmer stands still or doesn’t know how other classes work your advice tho very kind ofc is in this context abit useless…for I already know this and as I said before….the mesmer player knows how to deal with other classes as well….for they are much much easier dealt with…cause most classes dont have teleports AND stealth all wrapped in one build paired with the highest spammable bursts. I must admit air and fire sigils ruin alot in the balance as well…and any class can pick those…tho I think mesmer and thief triumph ALOT harder on those sigils…cause of unsuspected teleport/stealth attacks. pretty simple

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Posted by: Koen Lenders.5971

Koen Lenders.5971

This dude……

I actually find the balance pretty ok at the moment, just learn what you can take with your class and build and what you need to disengage from. Hell, when I see a turret engi or a D/P Thief or any heavy condi hitter I just rotate to another point with my GS/LB zerker Warrior.

The OP is a prime example of a guy who can’t take the fact that he might just not be as good in PvP as he lets himself to believe. Shame on him that he needs to vent on a official forum…..

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Posted by: baylock.1703

baylock.1703

I’m not even going to WAIT for Blade and Soul to drop this kitten. GOOD BYE, Guild Wars 2. Not even kittening once could you do PvP right. It’s a joke. It truly, really is.

Hehe it is 100& beginner reaction to ppb balance who smashes keys and has no idea what he’s doing xd