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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

Mrbig.8019

No, this is not a rage post.

I’m just stating current PvP situation.

Mathcmaking puts full teams vs soloers, it’s not fun for both.

People queue lesser and lesser, nobody cares to form teams and train ( it’s not even possible since do nothing more than farming soloers 24/7), balance is stale and horrible and the game suffers from obvious internal conflicts ( like proff. dailies) that show how little the company ( not the devs) cares about PvP.

If PvP has to stay in this state just delete it, so i can uninstall in peace without thinking at “what this game could be”.

Sincerely,

a player from betas.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

uberkingkong.8041

I thought the combination of solo que and team que would encourage more people to play as a team like it did back before the solo que system.

However that habit anet instilled on people to ‘its ok to play by yourself’ is really strong.
Anet needs to make incentives to play with others and not by yourself.
Maybe more reward track points for playing with others. Maybe PvP type karma and if you play with others you get more. (Glory). I’ll think of more ideas later, but its really the GW2 developers that should be the ones thinking.

They don’t pay you developers to just do stuff, they really pay you for your creative thinking, and if your not creatively thinking and figuring out stuff, than they should question your abilities.

In this day and age, anyone can be taught how to program, but not all have creative thinking skills.

Also, to you guys that are pro ‘play by yourself’ people. Your more likely to quit the game easier if you just play by yourself rather than having a community your in, a group of people you play with and etc. It’s better to promote community play together as parties rather than play by yourself.

Do I think they should force you to make teams? Nope, I do like playing solo every now and then but it shouldn’t really be all the time. Developers needs to focus on getting that 95% solo, 5% team to something more like 60% teams are queing and 40% solo people are queing.

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Posted by: Fanta.8049

Fanta.8049

It’s dead for a long time if you dont mind , cuz everything is too #esport and my #esportspirits cant handle that .Remember the day we play with gimmick? That was fun and game.

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Posted by: Tao.5096

Tao.5096

each day I’m doing around 10 arenas.
1-2 of them are against some premade teams, in at least 3/5.

If this is what makes people rage quit, then I can honestly say, that they’re wrong.
They quit because they’re terrible and don’t want to improve meanwhile blaming system that kick once in a while.

Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?

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Posted by: Khang.6743

Khang.6743

I think its better than it has been in a while. At least, you can see some changes to PvP, where as for a while, we weren’t seeing anything happening.

Could it be better? Yeah, they need to figure out how to fix some builds without destroying them. At this point, I think crippling some of the obvious imba builds from the game while they figure out how to balance them is better than what we have right now. I’m not saying remove the builds completely, I’m saying make them useless while we figure this crap out. I feel like this is the lamest meta we’ve ever had.

All in all, I’m happy with the attention to PvP right now. Everyone has the same complaints, so its not like they’re not getting to ANET. They don’t want to have a crappy meta. Give it time. In the interim, we have to deal with these cheese builds.

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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

Mrbig.8019

I thought the combination of solo que and team que would encourage more people to play as a team like it did back before the solo que system.

However that habit anet instilled on people to ‘its ok to play by yourself’ is really strong.
Anet needs to make incentives to play with others and not by yourself.
Maybe more reward track points for playing with others. Maybe PvP type karma and if you play with others you get more. (Glory). I’ll think of more ideas later, but its really the GW2 developers that should be the ones thinking.

They don’t pay you developers to just do stuff, they really pay you for your creative thinking, and if your not creatively thinking and figuring out stuff, than they should question your abilities.

In this day and age, anyone can be taught how to program, but not all have creative thinking skills.

Also, to you guys that are pro ‘play by yourself’ people. Your more likely to quit the game easier if you just play by yourself rather than having a community your in, a group of people you play with and etc. It’s better to promote community play together as parties rather than play by yourself.

Do I think they should force you to make teams? Nope, I do like playing solo every now and then but it shouldn’t really be all the time. Developers needs to focus on getting that 95% solo, 5% team to something more like 60% teams are queing and 40% solo people are queing.

Tell me a single reason to play with a team aside farming soloers

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Posted by: Khang.6743

Khang.6743

I thought the combination of solo que and team que would encourage more people to play as a team like it did back before the solo que system.

However that habit anet instilled on people to ‘its ok to play by yourself’ is really strong.
Anet needs to make incentives to play with others and not by yourself.
Maybe more reward track points for playing with others. Maybe PvP type karma and if you play with others you get more. (Glory). I’ll think of more ideas later, but its really the GW2 developers that should be the ones thinking.

They don’t pay you developers to just do stuff, they really pay you for your creative thinking, and if your not creatively thinking and figuring out stuff, than they should question your abilities.

In this day and age, anyone can be taught how to program, but not all have creative thinking skills.

Also, to you guys that are pro ‘play by yourself’ people. Your more likely to quit the game easier if you just play by yourself rather than having a community your in, a group of people you play with and etc. It’s better to promote community play together as parties rather than play by yourself.

Do I think they should force you to make teams? Nope, I do like playing solo every now and then but it shouldn’t really be all the time. Developers needs to focus on getting that 95% solo, 5% team to something more like 60% teams are queing and 40% solo people are queing.

Tell me a single reason to play with a team aside farming soloers

Aside from the obvious?

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

No, this is not a rage post.

I’m just stating current PvP situation.

Mathcmaking puts full teams vs soloers, it’s not fun for both.

People queue lesser and lesser, nobody cares to form teams and train ( it’s not even possible since do nothing more than farming soloers 24/7), balance is stale and horrible and the game suffers from obvious internal conflicts ( like proff. dailies) that show how little the company ( not the devs) cares about PvP.

If PvP has to stay in this state just delete it, so i can uninstall in peace without thinking at “what this game could be”.

Sincerely,

a player from betas.

You forgot the leaderboards

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Posted by: Emapudapus.1307

Emapudapus.1307

Previous matchmaking was muuuuch muuuch better than this. Only thing it lacked was population, so either you got long queue or against lower ranked ppl. The thing we got now is just poop. Leaderboards were also nice, except few games→top lb or huge fluctuations. SInce that patch, pvp is joke.

all is vain

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

PvP isn’t dead. The game is.

PvP has always been a very small fraction of the overall playerbase. When the playerbase shrinks, so to does the PvP community.

What caused the game to die? Poor balance, poor matchmaking, a never-changing meta, nothing new to experience, no reason to do anything, etc etc etc.

It’s not all doom and gloom though. Tomorrow we will get an important announcement that could revitalize this game so long as they fix some of the things on the list I mentioned.

Lets cross our fingers for important stuff being discussed tomorrow.

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

Sorel.4870

Previous matchmaking was muuuuch muuuch better than this. Only thing it lacked was population, so either you got long queue or against lower ranked ppl. The thing we got now is just poop. Leaderboards were also nice, except few games->top lb or huge fluctuations. SInce that patch, pvp is joke.

What? If you think you’re farmed by premades now, just think about what it was like duo queuing or trio queuing in the old system, that was strictly MMR-based. I often played with 4 IRL friends on skype, and since we reached dolyak we were winning against dragon-ranked players, losing every 1v1 and every balanced team-fights, but out-rotating them. These guys were raging sooooo much I wonder why they don’t seem to remember this MAJOR flaw of the old system. But I presume you’re one of these soloq heroes who lose for all sorts of reasons besides their own lack of personal skill. Again, why do solo players think they are so special? People who play with 1 or 2 friends want to enjoy pvp too.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

uberkingkong.8041

I thought the combination of solo que and team que would encourage more people to play as a team like it did back before the solo que system.

However that habit anet instilled on people to ‘its ok to play by yourself’ is really strong.
Anet needs to make incentives to play with others and not by yourself.
Maybe more reward track points for playing with others. Maybe PvP type karma and if you play with others you get more. (Glory). I’ll think of more ideas later, but its really the GW2 developers that should be the ones thinking.

They don’t pay you developers to just do stuff, they really pay you for your creative thinking, and if your not creatively thinking and figuring out stuff, than they should question your abilities.

In this day and age, anyone can be taught how to program, but not all have creative thinking skills.

Also, to you guys that are pro ‘play by yourself’ people. Your more likely to quit the game easier if you just play by yourself rather than having a community your in, a group of people you play with and etc. It’s better to promote community play together as parties rather than play by yourself.

Do I think they should force you to make teams? Nope, I do like playing solo every now and then but it shouldn’t really be all the time. Developers needs to focus on getting that 95% solo, 5% team to something more like 60% teams are queing and 40% solo people are queing.

Tell me a single reason to play with a team aside farming soloers

God made more than one of us for a reason.
Your playing an MMORPG for a reason.
Your playing a multiplayer game for a reason.

Playing games with friends is fun for a reason.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

I thought the combination of solo que and team que would encourage more people to play as a team like it did back before the solo que system.

However that habit anet instilled on people to ‘its ok to play by yourself’ is really strong.
Anet needs to make incentives to play with others and not by yourself.
Maybe more reward track points for playing with others. Maybe PvP type karma and if you play with others you get more. (Glory). I’ll think of more ideas later, but its really the GW2 developers that should be the ones thinking.

They don’t pay you developers to just do stuff, they really pay you for your creative thinking, and if your not creatively thinking and figuring out stuff, than they should question your abilities.

In this day and age, anyone can be taught how to program, but not all have creative thinking skills.

Also, to you guys that are pro ‘play by yourself’ people. Your more likely to quit the game easier if you just play by yourself rather than having a community your in, a group of people you play with and etc. It’s better to promote community play together as parties rather than play by yourself.

Do I think they should force you to make teams? Nope, I do like playing solo every now and then but it shouldn’t really be all the time. Developers needs to focus on getting that 95% solo, 5% team to something more like 60% teams are queing and 40% solo people are queing.

Tell me a single reason to play with a team aside farming soloers

God made more than one of us for a reason.
Your playing an MMORPG for a reason.
Your playing a multiplayer game for a reason.

Playing games with friends is fun for a reason.

Imaginary friends don’t make anything for any reasons.

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Posted by: Ormus Black.5134

Ormus Black.5134

I play PvP to play against people, has nothing to do with a mmorpg.
The pvp in this game died a long time ago yet I still play a game or two aday for some reason.

Its lame to have to gather 4 friends to play the "competitive game" . Hense why people have been crying for 2v2 3v3 for ever.

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

GhOst.4019

You don’t want to form a team because you will just farm solo’ers? LOL? You obviously have never played on a team OR you play a couple matches a day and 1 happens to be against a premade. From Qui’ing on a team 90% of the time I can tell you that you do not farm soloers. There is maybe 1 out of every 20 games we come across soloers. You just blatantly have no idea how to tell if you are fighting a team or not, or the other 4 in your party are a team; or the enemy is a 3/2 split and yours is a 2/2/1 (fair). So many people sit here and complain non stop, but the reality 95% of the time of the people complaining only play a couple matches a day and just happen to get the 1 in 20 odds of it happening to them ( or they can’t tell the difference). I solo Q 10% of the time and it is definitely about the same 1 in 20 matches I go against a premade. The system has gotten a TON better and teams wait a lot longer in Q for team match-ups. The place you will find a bit worse odds are unranked Q due to the lack of teams that Q in there, someone has to go against them.

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