Guild Wars 2

I been playing since beta, I do PvP tourneys everyday, but the game has become boring to me and my guildies. Same maps, same objective on every map, PvP Paid tourneys empty, cos bad guilds farming pugs on free. We need something different, after while it gets boring. It feels like there’s nothing to look forward in PvP. Does anybody else feels the same?

For the most part imo anet doesnt have a clue what theyre doing as far as pvp goes. Ide suggest to get rid of the entire pvp department over there and get a new one if my opinion mattered, because theyre too obsessed with this esport nonsense. If its going to be an esport, then it will be… you cant force it.

It saddens me that PvEr’s get the best rewards, the best everything in every MMO. And there’s always not enough depth in PvP, I’m not PvEr, If this goes on I’m going to have to quit, until the PvP in this game gets better.

Agreed, needs more stuff to do in pvp. I thought this was supposed to predominantly be a pvp game. Yet all I see are dev’s responding to pve issues and discussions.

I love the mechanics of this game but have got so bored that I am literally rotating classes..

I disagree with second poster saying ANet don’t know what they’re doing though. I think that they are just slow with the pvp side of it, since they concentrate too much on pve. WvW isn’t pvp either.

Scarlett.1549:

Agreed, needs more stuff to do in pvp. I thought this was supposed to predominantly be a pvp game. Yet all I see are dev’s responding to pve issues and discussions.

I love the mechanics of this game but have got so bored that I am literally rotating classes..

I disagree with second poster saying ANet don’t know what they’re doing though. I think that they are just slow with the pvp side of it, since they concentrate too much on pve. WvW isn’t pvp either.

Well theyre okay on balance and stuff like that, but as far as the pvp in general… We only have 1 pvp game type because anet wants the game to be an esport so they can make more money. They think people wont catch on with more than one game type because it will get too confusing (they think we’re kitten . Thats also the same reason why boons and conditions are so simplified. In gw1 it was so much better with multiple enchantments, hexes and conditions. Another thing theyve done is decreased the total amount of skills so people can handle and understand what everyone is doing… All of this so they can make gw2 an esport and make money, and its not even an esport, lol.

Oh and no hot join 5v5 yet? Yeah, anets heads are up their keysters on that one.

And what I find funny, people that complain about PvE’s faults in this game, people argue “This game is a pvp game, that’s the endgame”.

ghaleon you should’ve played lineage 2 C5 then (before it turned bad). In there pvpers would get the good gear (boss jewels/crystals/full drops) and pvers would suck it. I wish GW2 was the same, sadly its not and slike this godlike kid said – i think arena net has no clue what they’re doing with pve. Im 100% sure if they somehow link heart of the mists(minus the gems from paid tour) to world ,then we’ll have a mass of crying casuals who can’t pvp/haven’t pvp ed up till now and arena net will quickly disable the linkage

There were/is more pvp types in the Halloween event than there is in the actual game. Is this the case or is it just me?

Did you honestly expect different? I hate sounding like a fan boy because i see the things that need adjusting and fixing but spvp and tpvp are exactly as advertised. Im sure as big expansions / patches hit we will get more variety but honestly…

As for wvw that has always been a zerg fest in every mmo that had a similar system. there will also always be small groups and solos finding their spots to play in open world but still. As far as pvp goes… You are killing other players… You have 3 different options (casual, esport, and open world siege) and yet its not killing players enough?

The only thing i could see that could change depth wise is lock three servers into a perma world war to fight over relics (ala daoc) or add some sort of RR type ability to work for. as far as the battlegrounds that you fight in they work.

This game is what 3 months old? im sorry you decided to burn through all the content and burn yourself out but the games solid as far as a new mmo goes. and the pvp aspect is enjoyable and will evolve as more people get to max, learn the different classes and skills, and as different strategies develop. This game is far to new with a newer player base. You cant expect the community and depth of pvp to have evolved that quickly.

To be honest – and I know the PvP is pretty repetitive atm – I say to you: Have faith, have patience!

I played GW1 and it had very good PvP aspects. Like, crazy good.

Compared to WoW which has a focus on PvE, Guild Wars has a strong focus on PvP. I know this is kinda shallow, but tbh: The game is called GUILD WARS. In GW1 there actually were GUILD wars. Guilds going up against guilds, and surely they’ll implement something like that again. I’m not saying a complete copy-cat, but they’ll figure something out.

Besides, remember that the developers are called “ArenaNet”. Everything (PvP-wise)about this game is gonna be alright.

People are impatient. This game has been out for less than 1/2 a year and it’s running well. Not perfectly, but well.

WoW has been out for what, like 8 years or something, and they still have problems balancing things out, making end-game content hard (like it was in Vanilla or w/e). And they have a huge problem with PvP balance (where only 3v3 seemed balanced in a minor way, back when I played). And WoW has more than 7-and-a-half years of experience on their own game.

ArenaNet just made a completely new game, accessible to millions of people, and you expect awesomeness in the first few months? C’mon.

Cocokachu.7920 This game is what 3 months old? im sorry you decided to burn through all the content and burn yourself out but the games solid as far as a new mmo goes. and the pvp aspect is enjoyable and will evolve as more people get to max, learn the different classes and skills, and as different strategies develop. This game is far to new with a newer player base. You cant expect the community and depth of pvp to have evolved that quickly. [/quote]

First of all let me thank you all for replying back.
Cocokachu.7920 I have played every Profession in the game, like I said I’ve been playing since beta. I played all the professions because as a true Pvper if u don’t experience each one u won’t be able to find a counter or do well in sPvP. My guild and I only do paid tourneys since the new patch, we are all Avengers close to ransacker. We have all played all professions and we feel like we’re really advanced compared to most guilds. But that doesn’t change the fact that every map has the same objective and it feels repetitive. We need different objectives. I played GW1 since release too, I’ve been a loyal GW1 player since 2005. GW1 PvP took a while to develop too, which is why I know Anet will get GW2 PvP better, but right now I’m getting bored. I just wish we had a flag stand like in GW1.

totally agree with the pvp side getting boring more and more. Most of the people i knew which are normally quite hardcore in this area, have already left the game or are simply “waiting it out”. No ranking/ladder leaves u just playing the same mode/maps all the evening w/o any sign of progression making it even more tedious and boring than it should.
In other games i would actually play even w/o the team and have fun in the modes provided. Here, playing random bgs is the least fun one can have.

ghaleon.2861:

I been playing since beta, I do PvP tourneys everyday, but the game has become boring to me and my guildies. Same maps, same objective on every map, PvP Paid tourneys empty, cos bad guilds farming pugs on free. We need something different, after while it gets boring. It feels like there’s nothing to look forward in PvP. Does anybody else feels the same?

New PvP Game mode in November’s patch…

I had same feeling but I simply gave up on best builds for pvp and created my own build which I enjoy no matter if I cant manage full power of my class. And hey its fun again and I enjoy pvp like never before.

I lol’d at the guy that said balance is fine.

Ya I am playing other games until I read that they made some major changes, like game types, or got rid of downed state. Their PvP is just… boring.

Really dissapointing comming from the people who made GW1, I guess I should have seen it comming though, every expansion since GW1 Prophecies has made the PvP worse… I just feel let down.

MMOs that focus on PvE and PvP tend to let one or the other suffer, and usually it’s PvP.

From a business view, it makes sense to cater to PvE because there’s far more players who purchased the game for PvE. PvE players are probably more likely to buy gems also.

From an E-Sports view, you really need to be a PvP-focused game from the get go to survive. e.g. SC2, LoL, etc.

GW2 is a good game, nice graphics, nice enviroment, nice sound, etc. but the sPvP is too boring at this moment, why? because we only have 4 maps (3 if you play tournaments), only 1 mode (conquest is getting boring yet), same builds for all (there’re too many difference between builds and skills), etc. then the game is always the same, I ask for more maps, more modes, more possible builds, TV, ladder and GvG’s.

juanma.9813:

GW2 is a good game, nice graphics, nice enviroment, nice sound, etc. but the sPvP is too boring at this moment, why? because we only have 4 maps (3 if you play tournaments), only 1 mode (conquest is getting boring yet), same builds for all (there’re too many difference between builds and skills), etc. then the game is always the same, I ask for more maps, more modes, more possible builds, TV, ladder and GvG’s.

Again, I will say because I don’t think you read it….

New PvP Game mode coming in November’s patch.

The entirety of this game is nothing but a repetitive grind. Totally agree though structed PvP in this game is far more boring now then say BGs in WoW or Warzones in RIFT. The reason of course is due to the maps being A] Small B] The exact same! C] Player counter per team. All this adds up into boring repetitive PvP.

The only reason I do tourneys atm is because of guildies. I used to queue for BGs in other games all the time because other games had more variety of maps and larger maps with more players to fight on them.

GW2 is slowly dying because it lacks content atm, if A.Net put out new structured maps and games then maybe they would breath some life back into PvP.

The one and only good thing atm about PvP is the ranking system. Factually SPvP is the only thing in GW2 that offers any sort of end game progression. Look at WvW and PvE, there is literally no end game character progression systems in place.

Chris.7653:

Again, I will say because I don’t think you read it….

New PvP Game mode coming in November’s patch.

I will believe it when I see it. A.Net so far has a bad track record with GW2 on releasing content they said they would release.

ghaleon.2861:

Cocokachu.7920 This game is what 3 months old? im sorry you decided to burn through all the content and burn yourself out but the games solid as far as a new mmo goes. and the pvp aspect is enjoyable and will evolve as more people get to max, learn the different classes and skills, and as different strategies develop. This game is far to new with a newer player base. You cant expect the community and depth of pvp to have evolved that quickly.

First of all let me thank you all for replying back.
Cocokachu.7920 I have played every Profession in the game, like I said I’ve been playing since beta. I played all the professions because as a true Pvper if u don’t experience each one u won’t be able to find a counter or do well in sPvP. My guild and I only do paid tourneys since the new patch, we are all Avengers close to ransacker. We have all played all professions and we feel like we’re really advanced compared to most guilds. But that doesn’t change the fact that every map has the same objective and it feels repetitive. We need different objectives. I played GW1 since release too, I’ve been a loyal GW1 player since 2005. GW1 PvP took a while to develop too, which is why I know Anet will get GW2 PvP better, but right now I’m getting bored. I just wish we had a flag stand like in GW1.[/quote]

And i applaud you for making the effort to learn all the classes. I understand that you and your guild are impatient to see the new content. And i respect and thank you for ironing out things in beta despite the disadvantage that gives in regards to extending the life of the initial year. (i have yet to engage in a beta that in the end didn’t leave me bored too early in the mmo’s life. its why i have stopped beta testing any title I am interested in)

And i agree i really do believe that Anet will improve upon the PvP but i think the biggest factor for depth in any PvP game is the community. Anet can give 1000 different modes of PvP but without a strong competitive endgame community it will always be lack luster because at the end of the day PvP is 100 percent about player interaction with other players. And this is the first player base since GW1, daoc, and shadowbane that i believe can develop as needed for this. Although i really, really believe the very first thing that needs to change is eliminating the lack of name recognition in wvw. As far as spvp goes new maps and the rest of the community catching up to your guild will make a massive and total change.

At this point to many of us, myself included, are still working our way to you. i think once we have gotten our levels to match and time in game enough you will see the competition and skill level that keeps you addicted to pvp regardless of maps improve.

They need to expand on it some more. They just got enough maps in rotation to keep it interesting for launch+.

Agreed, spvp is just 4 map rotation and personally I dont undertsanding the thinking behind wvw just a massive zerg and lots of walking.

Im amazed at the effort devs have put into hallowen when there is such little pvp content.

You could knock up another 4 maps with a different game mode in about a week if you wanted.

I dont get it.

Chris.7653:

New PvP Game mode in November’s patch…

I call it a troll. There have been NO such info from ANY even half-trustworthy source.

dan.3618:

Agreed, spvp is just 4 map rotation and personally I dont undertsanding the thinking behind wvw just a massive zerg and lots of walking.

Im amazed at the effort devs have put into hallowen when there is such little pvp content.

You could knock up another 4 maps with a different game mode in about a week if you wanted.

I dont get it.

Anet wants gw2 to be an esport because it = more money. With more maps they think people wont be able to catch on as quickly / will not know whats going on in commentaries, so they stick to 4 maps.

Im Too Godlike.5629:

dan.3618:

Agreed, spvp is just 4 map rotation and personally I dont undertsanding the thinking behind wvw just a massive zerg and lots of walking.

Im amazed at the effort devs have put into hallowen when there is such little pvp content.

You could knock up another 4 maps with a different game mode in about a week if you wanted.

I dont get it.

Anet wants gw2 to be an esport because it = more money. With more maps they think people wont be able to catch on as quickly / will not know whats going on in commentaries, so they stick to 4 maps.

they should of advertised as “esports” if there is such a thing and I wouldnt have purchased.

why is it you think its “dumbed down” or wasted. very few games launched with more then a handful of “pvp maps” and what not. daoc ended up emain fights all day long for the first while, gw1 didnt release with much more, wow had what 3? in fact one of the only games that had similar pvp to spvp that released more maps was Fury and it died ridiculously fast. despite being a somewhat fun game (glitches aside).

Keep fixing balance, let people catch up, enjoy both pve and pvp, and know that content patches are never quick in mmo’s. This is new, i know of no new game that has everything you all think it should. Its like you come into a new game expecting 10 years worth of expansion content upon release like your previous games had without realizing they all started off small scale too and expanded with expansions…

and theres no sub… if youre really that bored get off the chair, smell a rose, go play a sport, go on a date or take your significant other out on one, play your side game, whatever. Theres more to life then complaining about a new game being new.

PS – YOU may not like the holiday content but many do. it adds flavor, festivities and character to the world. Its time well spent even if it doesnt affect your pvp….

Yes WvW is more PvE than PvP is a total joke.