Guild Wars 2

Its now 9 months? after gw2 release…I now wonder whats the highest rank a player achieved until now….
There are probably a few players who just play for PvP only or most of their time

I saw a lvl 60 some days ago…

Its just that I would expect that after at least 1 year as a very-active pvpplayer that somebody would have the top level, if its even exists..idk

Atm it feels like it would take ages till I get pass lvl 30+

Lets do little math now…till rank 70 its 3million glory….lets imagine we would gain 250glory each match in 10minutes(optimistic mh)….then I need 2 play almost 3 months
considering u have to sleep and u have a job/whatever…6hrs pvp per day(I know its ridiculous)

…means after 1 year u are rank 70 after another year u are rank 80

How does this fit that gw2 is not a grindgame? Y does it has to be like this? Is there somebody in the community who supports this kind of system?

I can imagine that these kind of threads already existed at the beginning of gw2 but for me its still a topic and it seems like most players just accepted that it wouldnt change or not?

And now people will come and tell that it’s a grind if you look at it like a grind, that you should play the game instead of wanting max rank in 2 days or something like that.

TBH I think that they should improve the way they reward rank points to the player, maybe attached them to the daily rewards or something.

Hm. Rank points are fine. It should take absolute ages to get max rank. In GW1 only a handful of people achieved to be rank 15. (Dragon emote)
The problem lies for what you are rewarded with rank points. In my personal opinion torunaments should give at least twice as much as hotzerg…

Right now people are HIGHLY rewarded for AoE spamming on hotzergs 10vs10. Just blindly spam your AoE and eventually you will kill people. If I res 1 single person I get top player reviving-wise every. single. time.

Only God knows why Anet demolished the way “Random Arena” worked in GW1. You would get an increasing amount of “gladiator points” for every consecutive 5 wins with a max of 25 wins in a row. I would love it so much if Anet would reintroduce this type of PvP back to GW2.
DIVA

yeah well.. in GW1 there were only 2 people in the World that were the highest Rank.. so i think GW2 is gonna be exactly like that.. most people were tiger rank.. some were phoenix rank.. and there were only 2 people who were dragon rank.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/PvP_Rank

Basically it will take 8,971,500 total glory to reach a dragon. I have been able to ‘farm’ or get around 6-7k (because I do work and other things but for people who have all the time in the world can farm easily 15-20k) each day.

7 days a week x 7k a day = 42,000 a week
8,971,500 / 42k = 213.6 — So it would take about 214 weeks to get a dragon
You do the math on years….

People will eventually get it if that is their goal.
The reason why not many got it in GW1 was it took SOOO much more to get fame. Having to find an 8v8 group, go in and do a pre-round and then fight someone, if you lose, people rage and you have to find a new group, and you only get 1 fame and grows up to 40 upon consecutive win. So getting 100,000 points in HA was difficult. They were not short maps either.

*Sorry going off topic for a second:
The pvp was lot better in gw1, the variety of maps in HA were amazing. Different objectives (OTHER than 3 capping and zerg mid fight. HINT TO GW2 might want to implement some of that). made it a lot more fun. Having three teams was another thing they put in which was a lot of fun, because, not only were you fighting one team and oh this team is better than this one so it’s going to be faceroll we hold halls all day. But you would get 3 different teams in there and people were working to take down the top team for their own benefit and made for a great match.

So considering all of that it took years as well to get their dragon. It would take a lot longer to get 100,000 of having to find a group and all that, then farming all day long in which you KNOW you will get points. So this isn’t going to take as long, if you’re dedicated. If you do pve/pvp casually then yes it will take VERY long time.

I am currently 51 and I’m losing excitement in running around because tournaments are just a joke. Not fun because of the new spectator thing, something about that made it less fun (I think just finding a good server, because I only play the non-spectator ones).

Saw a r61 guy today. But it should take a long time to get to 80, because than whats your incentive going to be?

Also don’t forget this is MMORPG and not GW1 so the ranks will probably increase in future. I’m not sure what they would make r90, maybe giant??

Highest rank atm has Clik. He’s r68.

uberkingkong.8041:

Also don’t forget this is MMORPG and not GW1 so the ranks will probably increase in future. I’m not sure what they would make r90, maybe giant??

There was only few people who achieved max hero or glad rank and no one ever achieved max champ title. In 7(8) years.

as its intended to play the game more than just for 1 year, i think its ok that it takes so long reaching higher ranks.
you guys always talk about incentive and on the other hand want everything achieved now.

kito.1827:

as its intended to play the game more than just for 1 year, i think its ok that it takes so long reaching higher ranks.
you guys always talk about incentive and on the other hand want everything achieved now.

The issue is more on the distribution of the rank-points. Rank got meaningless because good players in tournaments never achieve that much points as a brainless hotjoin-zerger. I think the general-rank should be related to your success rather than how much free time you have and how many hotjoin you play. So the incentive to have a high-rank is for most ppl not existing. As in GW1 ranks told you how successfull a player actually was (c-title, rank, commander-title), here it became meaningless.

The incentive for ranks is only there if the ranking-system is in relation to your skill/success. Though in GW1, phoenix-emotes were a symbol of prestige, in GW2 the same emote will never be in that state.
Sorry to say, but A-Net messed it up completely.

My problem with the ranks is that the gear we get is not unique from pve where you can get the look you want in a fraction of the time

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

kito.1827:

as its intended to play the game more than just for 1 year, i think its ok that it takes so long reaching higher ranks.
you guys always talk about incentive and on the other hand want everything achieved now.

The issue is more on the distribution of the rank-points. Rank got meaningless because good players in tournaments never achieve that much points as a brainless hotjoin-zerger. I think the general-rank should be related to your success rather than how much free time you have and how many hotjoin you play. So the incentive to have a high-rank is for most ppl not existing. As in GW1 ranks told you how successfull a player actually was (c-title, rank, commander-title), here it became meaningless.

The incentive for ranks is only there if the ranking-system is in relation to your skill/success. Though in GW1, phoenix-emotes were a symbol of prestige, in GW2 the same emote will never be in that state.
Sorry to say, but A-Net messed it up completely.

This, and the fact that winning tournaments doesn’t advance your actual pvp title (halfway to level 43 when I finally got ransaker, while hotjoin joe at level 40/41 already gets ransaker because he doesn’t tournament)

Anet said in SOTG that reward system revamp is on the TODO list, so lets hope it will not include another farming mechanic and will be skill oriented and wont take half year to implement

I used to care. Then November came most of my team left, and I stopped caring.

And now there are a lot of bad r40+ and now rank has become a blurred line to define a good player vs a decent player.

I’d say just work on your leaderboard score but some people call that equally worthless.

I can show you my Ascendant rank. Whisper me in game.

Personal rank is a worthless gauge of skill. They could be good, or they may be a zerging hotjoin hero, or they may be a bad player who has played a ton but never improved.

Leaderboard rank is not much better (on NA, can’t speak for EU). Until it is split for solo and premade, and a decay put in place against people who play on multiple accounts to preserve rating, it isn’t an accurate skill gauge. Currently this is just a board for who has the best pvp friends list.

You can premade your way entirely against pugs to the top 200 easily. You can also just as easily fall from the top to the percentages from a string of 3 or 4 unlucky solo queue losses.

Unfortunately many people still look at both and assume all high ranks are good and anyone low rank or not rated in the top 100 are bad.

Well I was rank 331 for awhile, so it aint hard unless theres a lack of good players out there. Yes I agree with you, NA leaderboards is whoever has the best friends list.

However I stopped caring because I want to get all my champ titles and solo que’d, which hurt my rank tremendously because I went to 40% then they decide to change up the leaderboards to make it so you only go up 3% rather than 5% which I didn’t expect coming.

As for GW2 r80 taking 7(8) years I highly doubt that, glory is A LOT easier to obtain in GW2 than in GW1. If someone is already r68 than if he keeps playing he will reach r80 in little over 2 years. In GW1 people didn’t reach r68 in less than a year, more like 3 or 4 years.

But yes glory is a joke in PvP right now, in GW1 it was only obtainable in HoH tournament, because that’s all they had there was no hotjoins, and you only got rank points when you won, which means you could have a bad team all day long and not even achieve 1 rank point and however the good teams that won consecutive games would get rank points stacked every consecutive win. In GW2 you could be on a 20 tournament win streak and you get same 200 glory everytime, theres no such thing as consecutive win bonus.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Highest rank atm has Clik. He’s r68.

Well he needs to hurry up! I want to see Phoenix finisher.

This PvP rank system was never an accurate indication of a players skill.

Its just a grind, your not required to do anything but participate to gain ranks.

Just because someones has been playing longer doesn’t mean he is better, especially in GW2 S/Tpvp.

You’d be astonished with the caliber of competitive gamers now days.

WoW’s Rbg and arena rank system is horrendously flawed but still miles ahead of GW2 ranks as a measure of a players skill level.

There are Players in WoW, who’ve been there since launch that still back peddle, keyboard turn and mouse click abilities…