Guild Wars 2

First time I tried Pvp it was fun, after a while it got boring and I know why…
I think the Pvp can be changed by either changing the score system or the Pvp type itself.

I realized how boring it was when I started to make troll builds on my characters, took all the health and defense I could get and ignore all damage.
Because why should I fight in Pvp when I can get more score jumping around gathering bases ?

So, that’s what I did, on my thief I even took a knock down trap with me to get some more laughs out of it. If someone was chasing me I couldn’t be bothered fighting, put down a trap, get all the speed I could get and just stand at a base for a few seconds to get points.

I really miss the 4 vs 4 random arenas from Gw1, first time I tried it I was bad at it but I had a goal to work to, become better. It was fun !

^Random arenas was a fun side element but nowhere near the real deal.

There should be goals, a plain deathmatch is boring/unbalanced.

They could always add it just as a fun pvp feature but they should add other stuff first.

You say that 4v4 random arena is superior to conquest mode in terms of fun, because in random arena you had the goal to get better, but I don’t see why you can’t have this goal in conquest mode. In your attempt to farm glory you should have been able to notice that your playstyle may give you the chance to have the highest score, but it won’t necessarily give your team a higher chance to win the game.
There is actually quite some strategy involed in conquest. I would even say that it has a higher skill cap than random arena. I think about it this way: You can only do so much with your character, as the number of skills it has is limited. Now I’m not saying that the skill cap of the combat mechanics of GW2 is low, I know it is a little more complex with when and how to use the skills of your character, but conquest adds an additional layer to that.
Now what you need to do is join free tournaments. There your personal score is not that important and it is more about winning the game with your team. That means you won’t see five players capping one node, because everyone wants the glory for it.

Conquest mode being boring seems to be the opinion of quite a few people on this forum. But I really struggle to see the reasoning behind this opinion. I see posts like “If Anet gives us arena/duel/etc. I would play PvP again.” (Meanwhile at League of Legends millions of players que for their 10th game of the same game mode this night)
I think conquest has much to offer. It is fun to come up with strategies and counter the strategies of the enemy team. There is room for yourself to improve.

XIII.9615:

Conquest mode being boring seems to be the opinion of quite a few people on this forum. But I really struggle to see the reasoning behind this opinion.

Because it’s Player vs Circle moreso than Player vs Player.

Even the paid tourneys are extremely boring to watch. Ohh their bunker got mid first, oh look they’re pushing and now other team is rotating to the other circle, nope they sent a defender back to that circle, more people in circles… oh goody, circles zzzzzzzzZZZZzz

^But what would it be in deathmatch?

Ooh lets go all to that point. Spam aoe or something cheesy. Oh look we survived. Anyone know what happened?

Braxxus.2904:

XIII.9615:

Conquest mode being boring seems to be the opinion of quite a few people on this forum. But I really struggle to see the reasoning behind this opinion.

Because it’s Player vs Circle moreso than Player vs Player.

Even the paid tourneys are extremely boring to watch. Ohh their bunker got mid first, oh look they’re pushing and now other team is rotating to the other circle, nope they sent a defender back to that circle, more people in circles… oh goody, circles zzzzzzzzZZZZzz

You can say this about anything if you don’t understand it…

It’s the reason GW2 has like 250 viewers on Twitch compared to actual PVP games like Lol which have 177k viewers.

PvP in GW2 is probably the most uninteresting, boring and stale thing to play and watch. It’s the reason the PVP community’s is so tiny because you can find better pvp is like every other game out there, which actual features that should have been released at launch.

Kakeru.2873:

It’s the reason GW2 has like 250 viewers on Twitch compared to actual PVP games like Lol which have 177k viewers.

What is the reason GW2 has only 250 viewers on Twitch?
An actual PvP game like LoL? What does that even mean? As long as a player can play versus a player I would call that a pvp game. If you are talking about eSports, you should try and say something like that to the DotA2 or SC2 community.

Kakeru.2873:

PvP in GW2 is probably the most uninteresting, boring and stale thing to play and watch. It’s the reason the PVP community’s is so tiny because you can find better pvp is like every other game out there, which actual features that should have been released at launch.

That is just an opinion. My opinion is that LoL is everything but a good spectator game, as you can not just watch it, you have to play it yourself, to know the heroes and items. My opinion is that LoL is so stale that the meta didn’t change since the game is out. In fact it is still pretty much the same like the WC3 custom map DotA.

The devs said that private servers and spectator mode are coming. It sucks that we don’t already have it, but there is no reason to rant about. If the game is no fun for you without these feature you can play another game until they are implemented.
Did you know that LoL wasn’t released with spectator mode, too? It took a really really long time until it was implemented. It doesn’t seem like it hurt the scene. Take a look at DotA2. It has the most eSports feature you can get, but still not the viewer count on Twitch that LoL has.

LoL is just unbelievably popular. You can’t compare any other game to it. Especially not a game that wants to be eSports, because eSports is just a niche. EsPorts games traditionally are quite hard and got a high skill cap. That’s not a thing for everyone.

butch.8136:

^But what would it be in deathmatch?

Ooh lets go all to that point. Spam aoe or something cheesy. Oh look we survived. Anyone know what happened?

Unlike in conquest there would be no penalty of losing a point when you move out of aoe, so yes dm would be much better.

Kakeru.2873:

It’s the reason GW2 has like 250 viewers on Twitch compared to actual PVP games like Lol which have 177k viewers.

PvP in GW2 is probably the most uninteresting, boring and stale thing to play and watch. It’s the reason the PVP community’s is so tiny because you can find better pvp is like every other game out there, which actual features that should have been released at launch.

LoL is F2P
LoL has been out since 2009
LoL has all the features needed for it to be an e-sport

You can bet that GW2 would be just as popular if it was F2P, was released 3 years ago, and had features like spectator mode and ladder. The lethargic click-to-move gameplay of MOBAs is far from exciting to watch.

i’d say a good spectator mode is all we need.
Would we be awesome if we could hear parts of the voicechat (never gonna happen but still :p). If I hear the teams communicating, as in the streams, things get much more exciting and fun to watch. ^So a good commentator would be a start.