Guild Wars 2

Hlord.5940:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Booms.3952:

Hlord.5940:

Devitz.2136:

“and it ignores the fact that mes has trash damage in team fight also is countered by war , condi necro , and DH even DD could beat a condi mes on its own .”

“core necro ,power reaper seems better now "

You are a real clown, a guy who should be banned from the forums because of the amount of bs you’re spreading. Or is it just some kind of a social experiment? Just checking how people react to your insane babble?
Teams would run at least 3 mesmers with maybe 2 revs or 1rev/ele just to add sth else than condi dmg if they could and I’m sure of it. Simply because moa counters everything, mes survi is great and you cover all the points with portals.

You simply have no clue about what you’re writing.

And for gods sake learn to use all the punctation marks or simply disappear until you learn sth about this game.

“3 mes and 2 rev” This got me interested, do tell when and where a team run 3 mes? before the recent update? before the no stacking rule? ESL?

no he’s probably right. “if they could” he said btw.
but yeah if there was no class stackign rule I’d expect 3 mes 1 rev 1 ele/druid tbh. Maybe -1 mes for another ele/druid.

Well they could before the no stacking rule but i’ve never seen any team taking mesmer, let alone staking 2 mesmer in their team, before the staking rule come in mesmer got alacrity nerf by 50% and their so call chrono bunker got guts, so I wonder when does these 3 mes, 1 rev and 1 ele/druid come in

You’ve never seen a team with a mesmer?every game in both seasons has had at least 1 mesmer and usually 2, and in season 1 most had 4 in each game 2 for each team

If possible could you give me a link to them? Especially the last two season

Just go to youtube and watch a few matchups…especially season1

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Booms.3952:

Hlord.5940:

Devitz.2136:

“and it ignores the fact that mes has trash damage in team fight also is countered by war , condi necro , and DH even DD could beat a condi mes on its own .”

“core necro ,power reaper seems better now "

You are a real clown, a guy who should be banned from the forums because of the amount of bs you’re spreading. Or is it just some kind of a social experiment? Just checking how people react to your insane babble?
Teams would run at least 3 mesmers with maybe 2 revs or 1rev/ele just to add sth else than condi dmg if they could and I’m sure of it. Simply because moa counters everything, mes survi is great and you cover all the points with portals.

You simply have no clue about what you’re writing.

And for gods sake learn to use all the punctation marks or simply disappear until you learn sth about this game.

“3 mes and 2 rev” This got me interested, do tell when and where a team run 3 mes? before the recent update? before the no stacking rule? ESL?

no he’s probably right. “if they could” he said btw.
but yeah if there was no class stackign rule I’d expect 3 mes 1 rev 1 ele/druid tbh. Maybe -1 mes for another ele/druid.

Well they could before the no stacking rule but i’ve never seen any team taking mesmer, let alone staking 2 mesmer in their team, before the staking rule come in mesmer got alacrity nerf by 50% and their so call chrono bunker got guts, so I wonder when does these 3 mes, 1 rev and 1 ele/druid come in

You’ve never seen a team with a mesmer?every game in both seasons has had at least 1 mesmer and usually 2, and in season 1 most had 4 in each game 2 for each team

If possible could you give me a link to them? Especially the last two season

Just go to youtube and watch a few matchups…especially season1

I don’t follow the pro pvp scene that firmly, all the animations give me headaches. I remember one site posting stats across the board on compositions, class usage, etc. etc.

Not sure if this will be relevant, EU league stats from 5 months ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/EU-Pro-League-Meta/first

Outsider.6051:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Booms.3952:

Hlord.5940:

Devitz.2136:

“and it ignores the fact that mes has trash damage in team fight also is countered by war , condi necro , and DH even DD could beat a condi mes on its own .”

“core necro ,power reaper seems better now "

You are a real clown, a guy who should be banned from the forums because of the amount of bs you’re spreading. Or is it just some kind of a social experiment? Just checking how people react to your insane babble?
Teams would run at least 3 mesmers with maybe 2 revs or 1rev/ele just to add sth else than condi dmg if they could and I’m sure of it. Simply because moa counters everything, mes survi is great and you cover all the points with portals.

You simply have no clue about what you’re writing.

And for gods sake learn to use all the punctation marks or simply disappear until you learn sth about this game.

“3 mes and 2 rev” This got me interested, do tell when and where a team run 3 mes? before the recent update? before the no stacking rule? ESL?

no he’s probably right. “if they could” he said btw.
but yeah if there was no class stackign rule I’d expect 3 mes 1 rev 1 ele/druid tbh. Maybe -1 mes for another ele/druid.

Well they could before the no stacking rule but i’ve never seen any team taking mesmer, let alone staking 2 mesmer in their team, before the staking rule come in mesmer got alacrity nerf by 50% and their so call chrono bunker got guts, so I wonder when does these 3 mes, 1 rev and 1 ele/druid come in

You’ve never seen a team with a mesmer?every game in both seasons has had at least 1 mesmer and usually 2, and in season 1 most had 4 in each game 2 for each team

If possible could you give me a link to them? Especially the last two season

Just go to youtube and watch a few matchups…especially season1

I don’t follow the pro pvp scene that firmly, all the animations give me headaches. I remember one site posting stats across the board on compositions, class usage, etc. etc.

Not sure if this will be relevant, EU league stats from 5 months ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/EU-Pro-League-Meta/first

I believe that is only from the first match so it was before the meta really formed around bunker mesmer

Chase.2798:

Outsider.6051:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Booms.3952:

Hlord.5940:

Devitz.2136:

“and it ignores the fact that mes has trash damage in team fight also is countered by war , condi necro , and DH even DD could beat a condi mes on its own .”

“core necro ,power reaper seems better now "

You are a real clown, a guy who should be banned from the forums because of the amount of bs you’re spreading. Or is it just some kind of a social experiment? Just checking how people react to your insane babble?
Teams would run at least 3 mesmers with maybe 2 revs or 1rev/ele just to add sth else than condi dmg if they could and I’m sure of it. Simply because moa counters everything, mes survi is great and you cover all the points with portals.

You simply have no clue about what you’re writing.

And for gods sake learn to use all the punctation marks or simply disappear until you learn sth about this game.

“3 mes and 2 rev” This got me interested, do tell when and where a team run 3 mes? before the recent update? before the no stacking rule? ESL?

no he’s probably right. “if they could” he said btw.
but yeah if there was no class stackign rule I’d expect 3 mes 1 rev 1 ele/druid tbh. Maybe -1 mes for another ele/druid.

Well they could before the no stacking rule but i’ve never seen any team taking mesmer, let alone staking 2 mesmer in their team, before the staking rule come in mesmer got alacrity nerf by 50% and their so call chrono bunker got guts, so I wonder when does these 3 mes, 1 rev and 1 ele/druid come in

You’ve never seen a team with a mesmer?every game in both seasons has had at least 1 mesmer and usually 2, and in season 1 most had 4 in each game 2 for each team

If possible could you give me a link to them? Especially the last two season

Just go to youtube and watch a few matchups…especially season1

I don’t follow the pro pvp scene that firmly, all the animations give me headaches. I remember one site posting stats across the board on compositions, class usage, etc. etc.

Not sure if this will be relevant, EU league stats from 5 months ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/EU-Pro-League-Meta/first

I believe that is only from the first match so it was before the meta really formed around bunker mesmer

Yeah, I was looking for the post/site that went out when people got wind of bunker mes and viper rev.

Outsider.6051:

Chase.2798:

Outsider.6051:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Booms.3952:

Hlord.5940:

Devitz.2136:

“and it ignores the fact that mes has trash damage in team fight also is countered by war , condi necro , and DH even DD could beat a condi mes on its own .”

“core necro ,power reaper seems better now "

You are a real clown, a guy who should be banned from the forums because of the amount of bs you’re spreading. Or is it just some kind of a social experiment? Just checking how people react to your insane babble?
Teams would run at least 3 mesmers with maybe 2 revs or 1rev/ele just to add sth else than condi dmg if they could and I’m sure of it. Simply because moa counters everything, mes survi is great and you cover all the points with portals.

You simply have no clue about what you’re writing.

And for gods sake learn to use all the punctation marks or simply disappear until you learn sth about this game.

“3 mes and 2 rev” This got me interested, do tell when and where a team run 3 mes? before the recent update? before the no stacking rule? ESL?

no he’s probably right. “if they could” he said btw.
but yeah if there was no class stackign rule I’d expect 3 mes 1 rev 1 ele/druid tbh. Maybe -1 mes for another ele/druid.

Well they could before the no stacking rule but i’ve never seen any team taking mesmer, let alone staking 2 mesmer in their team, before the staking rule come in mesmer got alacrity nerf by 50% and their so call chrono bunker got guts, so I wonder when does these 3 mes, 1 rev and 1 ele/druid come in

You’ve never seen a team with a mesmer?every game in both seasons has had at least 1 mesmer and usually 2, and in season 1 most had 4 in each game 2 for each team

If possible could you give me a link to them? Especially the last two season

Just go to youtube and watch a few matchups…especially season1

I don’t follow the pro pvp scene that firmly, all the animations give me headaches. I remember one site posting stats across the board on compositions, class usage, etc. etc.

Not sure if this will be relevant, EU league stats from 5 months ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/EU-Pro-League-Meta/first

I believe that is only from the first match so it was before the meta really formed around bunker mesmer

Yeah, I was looking for the post/site that went out when people got wind of bunker mes and viper rev.

Season 1 comp that 80% of pro teams were using was 2x mes, 2x rev, and ele. In season 2 it differed a little more with the core being necro, ele, rev, with the other two spots filled with mes, engi, or ramger…all teams but 1 (i believe it was purple noise) ran mes with the big difference in most teams being ranger or engi

i dont think they are gonna nerf CS that it doesnt work with elite skills, it would effect pve to, therefore more likely nerfing moa itself :/

edit: wrong thread >,<

Chase.2798:

Outsider.6051:

Chase.2798:

Outsider.6051:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Chase.2798:

Hlord.5940:

Booms.3952:

Hlord.5940:

Devitz.2136:

“and it ignores the fact that mes has trash damage in team fight also is countered by war , condi necro , and DH even DD could beat a condi mes on its own .”

“core necro ,power reaper seems better now "

You are a real clown, a guy who should be banned from the forums because of the amount of bs you’re spreading. Or is it just some kind of a social experiment? Just checking how people react to your insane babble?
Teams would run at least 3 mesmers with maybe 2 revs or 1rev/ele just to add sth else than condi dmg if they could and I’m sure of it. Simply because moa counters everything, mes survi is great and you cover all the points with portals.

You simply have no clue about what you’re writing.

And for gods sake learn to use all the punctation marks or simply disappear until you learn sth about this game.

“3 mes and 2 rev” This got me interested, do tell when and where a team run 3 mes? before the recent update? before the no stacking rule? ESL?

no he’s probably right. “if they could” he said btw.
but yeah if there was no class stackign rule I’d expect 3 mes 1 rev 1 ele/druid tbh. Maybe -1 mes for another ele/druid.

Well they could before the no stacking rule but i’ve never seen any team taking mesmer, let alone staking 2 mesmer in their team, before the staking rule come in mesmer got alacrity nerf by 50% and their so call chrono bunker got guts, so I wonder when does these 3 mes, 1 rev and 1 ele/druid come in

You’ve never seen a team with a mesmer?every game in both seasons has had at least 1 mesmer and usually 2, and in season 1 most had 4 in each game 2 for each team

If possible could you give me a link to them? Especially the last two season

Just go to youtube and watch a few matchups…especially season1

I don’t follow the pro pvp scene that firmly, all the animations give me headaches. I remember one site posting stats across the board on compositions, class usage, etc. etc.

Not sure if this will be relevant, EU league stats from 5 months ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/EU-Pro-League-Meta/first

I believe that is only from the first match so it was before the meta really formed around bunker mesmer

Yeah, I was looking for the post/site that went out when people got wind of bunker mes and viper rev.

Season 1 comp that 80% of pro teams were using was 2x mes, 2x rev, and ele. In season 2 it differed a little more with the core being necro, ele, rev, with the other two spots filled with mes, engi, or ramger…all teams but 1 (i believe it was purple noise) ran mes with the big difference in most teams being ranger or engi

Case in point about 2x Bunker Chrono in S1, the Bunker setup allowed mes to hold a point without use of F4 or CS (resulting in point decap). It worked.

Current chrono relies heavily on both F4 (repeated use) and CS. As a strategy you could literally run onto the point, pressure the chrono into decap, run off to reset, and rinse repeat while he’s locked down constantly recapping.

The level of QQ directly correlates to the level of ignorance of the class XD

Jekkt.6045:

nerf shield.
echo of memory (shield 4) blocks once. always summons the phantasm when blocking an attack.
tides of time (shield 5) stuns on the outgoing wave and cripples (instead of stun) on the returning wave.

inspiration
restorative illusions (master trait) either remove the healing or the condi cleanse. if you want to keep them both then half the healing and reduce the cleanse per shatter.
this trait is the main offender: with the amount of shatters chronos can cast due to signet and chrono traits you get way too much healing and cleanse out of this trait.

disable continuum split for elites.

give moa a condi cleanse and a duration reduction to 6s. lower moa cooldown to 120.

-> chrono balanced

I rarely comment these days in the forum, but this…. wow. How can I say this without sounding mean. Either your are not very skilled, or just mad.? Why not removing the class completley from the game? Moa is the only thing mesmers need a nerf. Everything else is fine. Instead of nerfing buff the core specc so that power will be available. No one will play Condi/Hybrid then.
Without Inspiration like it is, mesmer is food for every hybrid/condi class, lime before HoT. So whats the weakness of mesmer?
Mesmer is countered by DH very hard, even a good power warrior is dangerous now for a mesmer. (A good condi warrior will kill a mesmer anyway)
Every class with much CC and a good player behind will kill the mesmer. Shatter is dodgeable/blockable you guys now this, right?
I agree that mesmer is strong, but not op. There are other aspects in the game that should be nerfed/changed. Maybe make Continum Shift not for elites. That would be ok, too.

Much mesmer hate here. But yea, instead of playing with skilled mesmer and learning how to play against them, go ahead and cry for nerfes.
I see people with 10 stacks torment and/or confusion on them on moa and running away like a wild chicken. Lol? And then they complain mesmer is broken. Instead of standing right in front of the mesmer and not letting the condis melt them.

MandJ.8965:

Jekkt.6045:

nerf shield.
echo of memory (shield 4) blocks once. always summons the phantasm when blocking an attack.
tides of time (shield 5) stuns on the outgoing wave and cripples (instead of stun) on the returning wave.

inspiration
restorative illusions (master trait) either remove the healing or the condi cleanse. if you want to keep them both then half the healing and reduce the cleanse per shatter.
this trait is the main offender: with the amount of shatters chronos can cast due to signet and chrono traits you get way too much healing and cleanse out of this trait.

disable continuum split for elites.

give moa a condi cleanse and a duration reduction to 6s. lower moa cooldown to 120.

-> chrono balanced

I rarely comment these days in the forum, but this…. wow. How can I say this without sounding mean. Either your are not very skilled, or just mad.? Why not removing the class completley from the game? Moa is the only thing mesmers need a nerf. Everything else is fine. Instead of nerfing buff the core specc so that power will be available. No one will play Condi/Hybrid then.
Without Inspiration like it is, mesmer is food for every hybrid/condi class, lime before HoT. So whats the weakness of mesmer?
Mesmer is countered by DH very hard, even a good power warrior is dangerous now for a mesmer. (A good condi warrior will kill a mesmer anyway)
Every class with much CC and a good player behind will kill the mesmer. Shatter is dodgeable/blockable you guys now this, right?
I agree that mesmer is strong, but not op. There are other aspects in the game that should be nerfed/changed. Maybe make Continum Shift not for elites. That would be ok, too.

Much mesmer hate here. But yea, instead of playing with skilled mesmer and learning how to play against them, go ahead and cry for nerfes.
I see people with 10 stacks torment and/or confusion on them on moa and running away like a wild chicken. Lol? And then they complain mesmer is broken. Instead of standing right in front of the mesmer and not letting the condis melt them.

10 stacks torment and/or confusion on moa. How many dps output on this AFK mode?(mao with torment and confusion) Mes is a Bunker!? Supporter!? or a KILLER!!?

The amount of crying about Mesmers….
Might as well create a new ocean and call it ‘’Sea of Tears’’

What the heck do you really want?
You cry when wrecked by other profession…
and you cry when your profession is receiving any nerfs…

You want to nerf this, buff that…
What’s next? Are you going to tell everyone what type of crayons you like to use?

All this whining is a pure L2P issue.
There is a clear difference, between amazing and ’’good’’ players when it comes down to be or play against a Mesmer.

[This discussion has run its course. Thread now closed. Thank you.]