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Posted by: Hettrick.9640

Hettrick.9640

Hi,

I got back to the game after a fairly long time.
I leveled a engi to 80 and guard to 80 ive never been a hardcore player and i am just now
starting to try out PvP( Rank 14 ).

I was trying out a Bunker guard but i cant seem to hold a point long enough( I feel a bit squishy to be perfectly honest) i played a bunker ranger and i thought i had more versatility in terms of dmg and survivability. I thought of rolling a Warrior but i dont feel like i am ready to forsaken my guard just yet. Can someone give me good bunker builds ? and can Guard actualy capture point in a dmg specc ? if so i would appreciate to get a dmg specc also. I heard they dont do as much dmg as a warrior but can still be pretty decent.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long question, look at it this way im trying to improve unlike some people rushing into pvp head first not knowing anything about pvp or their classes

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Posted by: Zanshin.5379

Zanshin.5379

Ironically, I think guardians aren’t actually the best at “bunkering”. I think engineers are better.

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Posted by: Hettrick.9640

Hettrick.9640

Yeah i have a engi too hence why i decided maybe dmg guard would be nice.

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Posted by: Vargamonth.2047

Vargamonth.2047

You shouldn’t hold a point alone on a bunker guard.
Guardian usually is a bunker/support spec; if you’re alone, you pretty much lose the support component and end up on bunkerish build with next to zero counterpresure, which leads to your enemies attacking you much more freely and works against your defensive capabilities.
As a Guardian, you want to stay where the teamfight happens. You can solo bunker a point for a while if needed, but some of your teammates are meant to go there if attacked in a reasonable timeframe (which doesn’t always happen, it might even be quite rare, if you queue solo).

If you want to hold a point alone, there are better options. Elementalist, engineer, warrior, necromancer and ranger, all of them, offer better builds than a bunker guardian for this job. Even a DPS guardian is probably far better than a bunker for side point holding.

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Posted by: Serdoc.7261

Serdoc.7261

Bunker Guardians work a lot better with a coordinated team. In a solo Q with random people, you will probably struggle.

I say just keep trying out new things until you find a profession / build that is fun to play and wins a lot

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Posted by: Hettrick.9640

Hettrick.9640

Alright noted thanks. Nobody gave their impressions on Dmg Guard so far though? am i better off playing something thats meant to do dmg or does it work. Keep in mind i mean work in a higher competitive PvP scenario.

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Posted by: Vargamonth.2047

Vargamonth.2047

A DPS guard deals tons of damage, but I don’t really know if it could really work on a “highly competitive” scenario. You can get quite high on SoloQ leaderboards, but maybe not the best option for an organized team (specially if the team doesn’t want to adapt to running one).

If you want to give it a try, I’m currently running a GS/SwFc 2(II)/1/6(I,X,XII)/1/4(II,IX) Triple Meditation build (all but Merciful Intervention) with Berserker Amulet and Pack Runes. Still deciding if I prefer “Defender’s Flame” over “Focused Mind” and messing with sigils (dat hydromancy nerf >.<).

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Posted by: Sunshine.5014

Sunshine.5014

Guardians are being replaced by bunker engis in high level team queue. The next meta will be bunker engi meta. Two decap bunker engi stay on a point can fight 2vs3 for a while and the other team can’t cap at all due to the amount of knock back/heal/blocks/invul.

I rather have a bunker knock back engi in my team than a bunker guardian now. If the enemy dps is great enough to kill a bunker engi, it’s easy enough for them to kill the guardian too. Beside that, engi has a lot of knockbacks, which buy time for them to wait for blocks/invul/heal to cooldown

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Posted by: Zanshin.5379

Zanshin.5379

The gardian is literally named after the function of “guarding” and yet everybody else can guard better than him. I really have no idea what role the devs think a guardian should play in PvP but it’s certainly not bunkering.

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Posted by: Hettrick.9640

Hettrick.9640

Can you guys give me your insight on rangers and necros ? in high competitive scenario

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Posted by: yLoon.5289

yLoon.5289

Here’s a DPS build i’ve been using for soooo long ago~~

DPS / 2H / CC /Medi/ AOE Guard
Weapon :
Greatsword sigils- Hydromancy + 7% Crit chance
Hammer sigils- Intelligent + Fireblast or any you like

4: II, VII
0
6: I, X, XII
4: III, IX
0

Utilities: Purge Condition, Judge Intervention, Stand Your Ground
Combo : (Ham5+JI)+Swap+GS4+GS2+GS5.5+GS3

12K AP
Level 54 Bear Rank

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Posted by: g e o.2589

g e o.2589

I actually found a nice guardian bunker spec set around meditations and regen.