Guild Wars 2

Shaogin.2679:

jportell.2197:

skowcia.8257:

jportell.2197:

Just had a match against 3 rampage warriors….

Yeah rampage is fine. Totally okay. It doesn’t do any of the following

• Endless mobility
• Spammable CC
• Super high Health
• Reduce incoming Damage
• Proc passive endure pains.
• and definitely no damage.

Yup rampage is fine because it totally doesn’t have any of those things and that makes it totally okay. If anything maybe this skill needs buffed eh?

/sarcasm off.

Said a guy that defend the most op class ever made; mesmer. Just go in the endless stealth and moa him…..

Lol good mesmer builds don’t use PU.

The build in your signature uses PU. Just saying.

Not like any of this matters. I’m assuming attempts will be made in the future to balance damage back down to where it should be, and Rampage is no exception.

Look at how old that effing build is holmes. I’m just too lazy to change the sig. I am running Dom/Duel/illu shatter.

Zerker ammy. No maruader carebear BS. High Risk high reward.

My issue with Rampage is that it doesn’t actually function like a transform. Lich and Tornado can’t stomp, rez, proc things like defy pain, or utilize skills like healing signet’s resistance boon prior to activating. In fact, lich form REMOVES spectral effects. The cooldown is also quite low compared to the other two. And an engi can potentially have it on an 84 second cooldown, though it’s rng. Damage and CC are fine as that’s the point of using it.

My only problem with Rampage is the stupidly high damage in combination with it’s CC. I don’t care about the tankyness and stability of it, but when a warrior can hit me for 5k with the 5 skill and knock me down is absurd when I’m a 3k armor Engineer.

Should rampage be able to stomp!? Hell no. Rampage is a single “I win” button. People were complaining that Lich was a single “I win” button and Anet nerfed it. You can now manage any lich with enough cc, blinds, or reflect. No ones elite should be so strong that you can’t do anything but run away or dodge spam. That’s not how it should work. Especially when a engineer can has a chance to get rampage at a 60/66 second cd. There needs to be a bigger weakness. Remove the ability to stomp and either give it a 20-25% incoming damage debuff or remove it’s increased HP.

Pazu.8320:

My issue with Rampage is that it doesn’t actually function like a transform. Lich and Tornado can’t stomp, rez, proc things like defy pain, or utilize skills like healing signet’s resistance boon prior to activating. In fact, lich form REMOVES spectral effects. The cooldown is also quite low compared to the other two. And an engi can potentially have it on an 84 second cooldown, though it’s rng. Damage and CC are fine as that’s the point of using it.

Indeed. Or an even worse thing to compare with, Plague form. If Rampage is an “I win” button, plague Form is an “I loose” button. Moa form does more damage and is easier to escape in. Well at least Necros got Lich.

But come on, its a Warrior we’re talking about here. Warriors and Guardians always get special treatment by Anet. Rampage wont be changed. If anything, it will probably be buffed.

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

what about give everyone deathshroud?

lighter.2708:

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

what about give everyone deathshroud?

Sure, but you will be forced to get horrible Necro weapons to generate Life Force ;-)

Morwath.9817:

lighter.2708:

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

what about give everyone deathshroud?

Sure, but you will be forced to get horrible Necro weapons to generate Life Force ;-)

i wouldn’t call staff horrible, in fact, i would probably switch to it day 1

lighter.2708:

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

what about give everyone deathshroud?

The devs are not stupid but that would create an equal footing of some sort.

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

The devs are not stupid but that would create an equal footing of some sort.

either stab needs a nerf or you shouldn’t be able to stomp in rampage
also blinds are rendered useless if war pops zerker stance during rampage
only choice is to run, which if anyone remembers was also only reliable tactic vs turret engis and we know what happend to those~

Rampage wishlist:

1. Remove ability to stomp.
2. Decrease stability stacks to 1 stack (same as lich form)
3. Remove stances when entering rampage

I’ve been as reasonable as possible here, it would still be perfectly viable with these changes.
These changes bring it more in-line with other transformation elites.

lighter.2708:

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

what about give everyone deathshroud?

Are you even serious? You think Mesmer would scrap their Shatter to get DS or Thief throw away their Steal?

longer cooldown would be fine, but if you want to gut the skill by not allowing it to stomp I expect to see plague form nerfed also. I, like many necromancers take an elite transform with stability to safe stomp and the proposed nerf would take me right back to warbanner.

I think Lich should be able to stomp, and while it would be nice for tornado the constant AOE launches throw downed bodies around so giving it this ability would be pointless.

choovanski.5462:

longer cooldown would be fine, but if you want to gut the skill by not allowing it to stomp I expect to see plague form nerfed also. I, like many necromancers take an elite transform with stability to safe stomp and the proposed nerf would take me right back to warbanner.

I think Lich should be able to stomp, and while it would be nice for tornado the constant AOE launches throw downed bodies around so giving it this ability would be pointless.

Necros use it skillfully to time stomping to avoid getting interrupts. However once fully in plague they cannot stomp. Plague counts as a stun breaker.

jportell.2197:

choovanski.5462:

longer cooldown would be fine, but if you want to gut the skill by not allowing it to stomp I expect to see plague form nerfed also. I, like many necromancers take an elite transform with stability to safe stomp and the proposed nerf would take me right back to warbanner.

I think Lich should be able to stomp, and while it would be nice for tornado the constant AOE launches throw downed bodies around so giving it this ability would be pointless.

Necros use it skillfully to time stomping to avoid getting interrupts. However once fully in plague they cannot stomp. Plague counts as a stun breaker.

ah. I deleted my necro about two years ago, so forgive me for the error. in light of this information I think plague should absolutely be able to stomp.

Siva Mira.3546:

lighter.2708:

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

what about give everyone deathshroud?

Are you even serious? You think Mesmer would scrap their Shatter to get DS or Thief throw away their Steal?

Proper redesign would happen and names would be changed thief would get Shadow Shroud mesmer Ether Shroud
#facetankingforeveryone #equalfooting

Sagat.3285:

Siva Mira.3546:

lighter.2708:

Siva Mira.3546:

If you really think Rampage is fine then give it to everyone else and then we can talk how godly fine it is.

what about give everyone deathshroud?

Are you even serious? You think Mesmer would scrap their Shatter to get DS or Thief throw away their Steal?

Proper redesign would happen and names would be changed thief would get Shadow Shroud mesmer Ether Shroud
#facetankingforeveryone #equalfooting

Not too sure what are you talking about. We are not talking about changing the skill itself but we are talking about swapping skill or having everyone with the same one skill. In that post, lighter.2708 seems to think DS is OP and everyone want it at the cost of their own class mechanism.

Since the discussion in this thread is no longer constructive this thread is now closed.