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Posted by: Iplaytokill.1674

Iplaytokill.1674

Is bullkitten. Hands down the dumbest thing you can possibly go up against. Engineer self-res and Guardian self-res are manageable, but how the hell do you outheal damage from IBerzerker, an Illusion, the IRouge, and a Mesmer in downed state? And still consider it FAIR?

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

Change thread name to “Mesmer downed state”.

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Posted by: Nix.3152

Nix.3152

engineer self res is not a part of downed state. engi has the worst downed state in the game.

“You need actively react to the passives” (GW2 PvP 2013)

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Posted by: Zoutsha.1093

Zoutsha.1093

dodge the phantasmal rogue and everything is fine

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Posted by: Iplaytokill.1674

Iplaytokill.1674

dodge the phantasmal rogue and everything is fine

He was already downed. The rogue did decent dmg but the stupid pet healing is just total BS.

And if you DO manage to kill the pet, HE CAN SWITCH TO ANOTHER ONE? Really?

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Posted by: Zoutsha.1093

Zoutsha.1093

so it was a Ramser with rogue and pet. Its hard to counter them especially with their longbow shatter!

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

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You have like, what, 8s to get off a stomp before “lick wounds” becomes active. Ressurection/stomp; downed is only half the battle. When you down a ranger, blind that player. Poison the ranger on the ground. Knock the healing pet back. Work with your friends to stealth stomp. Chill the ranger. Use stability. There’s any number of things you could do to win the fight.

If you’re alone and down the ranger at the same exact time you go down…good luck, but, hey, that’s one tiny perk that the pet actually gives back and works and helps.

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Posted by: Iplaytokill.1674

Iplaytokill.1674

You have like, what, 8s to get off a stomp before “lick wounds” becomes active. Ressurection/stomp; downed is only half the battle. When you down a ranger, blind that player. Poison the ranger on the ground. Knock the healing pet back. Work with your friends to stealth stomp. Chill the ranger. Use stability. There’s any number of things you could do to win the fight.

If you’re alone and down the ranger at the same exact time you go down…good luck, but, hey, that’s one tiny perk that the pet actually gives back and works and helps.

Blind the player? Poison? Knock back? As a Mesmer, I ask you, HOW? I beat him straight up in a 1v1, but the mix of conditions+his stupid pet healing him, made me go down and him get back up because I couldn’t go stomp him with constant degen on me.

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

Mesmer has lost to ranger on simultaneous downed state since the beginning of the game. You new here?

Edit: you lost the 1v1! Lol you didn’t win. Downing someone is not winning, that’s stomp or kill.

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Posted by: Iplaytokill.1674

Iplaytokill.1674

Mesmer has lost to ranger on simultaneous downed state since the beginning of the game. You new here?

Edit: you lost the 1v1! Lol you didn’t win. Downing someone is not winning, that’s stomp or kill.

Stomp or kill in SPVP is not always a win. If you down him outside the point, it’s a win. But because he has the stun when you try to stomp him, you need stability, which Mesmer’s dont have, or Decoy, which he still stuns through, or to shatter, which is the longest CD and you NEED a clone up for it.

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Posted by: akallou.9704

akallou.9704

Every classes has an asset which is personal to its own class, ranger is survival and i am glad they have a feature alike, just as much as a guardian heal himself and people trying to get him up.

ALSO, if you didnt beat him with your current build, try to use a torch with the right trait that remove condition whenever you use a torch, you could also have stomp’d stealth him with that last torch.
This was YOUR failure and i believe nothing has to be changed to the current downed state of the ranger, nor any other classes. ranger are already getting most of the nerf around since the beginning because child or easily giving up people complain about them, everyone should have a chance to win with their assets

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Posted by: SlyFoxSays.5342

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Downed state is kinda crap no matter the class. Kinda wish it was gone. Downed should just be dead.

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Posted by: akallou.9704

akallou.9704

Mesmer has lost to ranger on simultaneous downed state since the beginning of the game. You new here?

Edit: you lost the 1v1! Lol you didn’t win. Downing someone is not winning, that’s stomp or kill.

Stomp or kill in SPVP is not always a win. If you down him outside the point, it’s a win. But because he has the stun when you try to stomp him, you need stability, which Mesmer’s dont have, or Decoy, which he still stuns through, or to shatter, which is the longest CD and you NEED a clone up for it.

NO i dont agree! mesmer has a stab mantra, up to 3 use with a trait, mesmer can go into stealth with torcch or utility skill/elite he can use the distortion, so my point is that boy need to learn the proffesion he plays!!!!!!!! instead of complaining about this and that, you just a weak complainer

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

Mesmer has lost to ranger on simultaneous downed state since the beginning of the game. You new here?

Edit: you lost the 1v1! Lol you didn’t win. Downing someone is not winning, that’s stomp or kill.

Stomp or kill in SPVP is not always a win. If you down him outside the point, it’s a win. But because he has the stun when you try to stomp him, you need stability, which Mesmer’s dont have, or Decoy, which he still stuns through, or to shatter, which is the longest CD and you NEED a clone up for it.

Excellent distinction to make, thank you. But I still think mesmer has the toolkit to deal with this.

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Posted by: Iplaytokill.1674

Iplaytokill.1674

Mesmer has lost to ranger on simultaneous downed state since the beginning of the game. You new here?

Edit: you lost the 1v1! Lol you didn’t win. Downing someone is not winning, that’s stomp or kill.

Stomp or kill in SPVP is not always a win. If you down him outside the point, it’s a win. But because he has the stun when you try to stomp him, you need stability, which Mesmer’s dont have, or Decoy, which he still stuns through, or to shatter, which is the longest CD and you NEED a clone up for it.

NO i dont agree! mesmer has a stab mantra, up to 3 use with a trait, mesmer can go into stealth with torcch or utility skill/elite he can use the distortion, so my point is that boy need to learn the proffesion he plays!!!!!!!! instead of complaining about this and that, you just a weak complainer

MANTRA LOL. TORCH?

kitten man I need to start running MANTRA and TORCH. I know the kitten class well enough. Problem being the downed state is broken. Ranger’s pets can just switch out if the first one dies. The healing should be reduced because atm it’s basically a free res in 5 seconds of channeling.