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Posted by: YuiRS.8129

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I don’t think it’s fair that one class can’t be stomped 1v1 without stability or stealth. Triple interrupt? Come on, A-net. It’d be annoying, but acceptable if you could cleave the Ranger, but they so happen to also have the only self-rez out of all the classes as well that can out-heal your cleave.

Proposed solution: make the pet self-rez about half as fast and/or make their daze interrupt a lot slower and more telegraphed like Guardian’s push back.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

Or you can just blind or block while stomp as Guardian,
or you can open stability when stomp as Warrior, Ele, Guardian or ranger or engi
or you can stealth while stomp as ranger, mesmer, thief or engi
or you can use invulnerable when stomp as engi, mesmer (f4),or ele
or you can just dps the corpse to death.

L2P… Stop QQ about ranger. It’s not like dogs make them to Meta.

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Posted by: Sarision.6347

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Perhaps they should simply rework Ranger downed state. Pet disappears and Lick Wound is replaced with something else…

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Posted by: SobeSoul.6910

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Pet res is OP whether or not you can do those things. It’s not a L2P issue.

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Posted by: Xfusion.2931

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sobe soul u can’t stomp or cleave a ranger down in 15 seconds? its very much a l2p issue… why all the hate for rangers when they are the least represented class in sPvP tournaments?

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

Pet res is OP whether or not you can do those things. It’s not a L2P issue.

Pet res used to be 2 times slower, and it’s proven one of the most useless F3 outside of PVE. And now people want it to be useless again, while not compensating with anything.

Ranger is not even in Meta, and not even the strongest class to fight, and not even having the best down state skill in PVP, yet people are still QQ about it…

What happened to the community?

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Posted by: Bran.7425

Bran.7425

Pet res is OP whether or not you can do those things. It’s not a L2P issue.

Pet res used to be 2 times slower, and it’s proven one of the most useless F3 outside of PVE. And now people want it to be useless again, while not compensating with anything.

Ranger is not even in Meta, and not even the strongest class to fight, and not even having the best down state skill in PVP, yet people are still QQ about it…

What happened to the community?

It is perceived to be easier to pull other professions down than to hope for improvements to their profession of choice.

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Posted by: Shadelang.3012

Shadelang.3012

Elementalist. Thief. and Mesmer say hi.

The pet is easily killable in case he takes a bear. In which case you kittened up by allowing someone who only deals 70% damage kill you. The heal is NUKED by any source of poison. The pet can be ccd to temporarily interupt the heal buying you time to stomp.

Infact. Stomping a ranger with stability and stealth works better than it does on any of the afore mentioned classes. So before you kitten about ranger please attack the ones that by the very nature of there skills CAN’T be preemptively counterplayed.

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Posted by: Kousetsu.1627

Kousetsu.1627

did some games as thief, necro and engineer today and ran into a few power rangers, downed them about 5 or 6 times and not one got rezzed by the pet. it kinda is a L2P issue, im sorry thats not what you wanted to hear.

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Posted by: Dojo.1867

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Pet res is OP whether or not you can do those things. It’s not a L2P issue.

And mistform into portal is op. And necro downed state is op dmg. And mesmer/thief invis/teleports are op.

See a pattern? Stupid thread.

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Posted by: lighter.2708

lighter.2708

Pet res is OP whether or not you can do those things. It’s not a L2P issue.

And mistform into portal is op. And necro downed state is op dmg. And mesmer/thief invis/teleports are op.

See a pattern? Stupid thread.

what about warrior and engi tho

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

Pet res is OP whether or not you can do those things. It’s not a L2P issue.

And mistform into portal is op. And necro downed state is op dmg. And mesmer/thief invis/teleports are op.

See a pattern? Stupid thread.

what about warrior and engi tho

Warrior will always win in down state 1 v 1 (if both are downed) because they can just stand up and stomp you. (Unless you trait for down as necro and dps him to death before he stands up, or unless you down a ranger and get downed too late afterward so their f3 is fully recharged)

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Posted by: SobeSoul.6910

SobeSoul.6910

Pet res is OP whether or not you can do those things. It’s not a L2P issue.

And mistform into portal is op. And necro downed state is op dmg. And mesmer/thief invis/teleports are op.

See a pattern? Stupid thread.

Who says I think all the downstate play in the game as is currently is best for the game?

Myopic reply.

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Posted by: YuiRS.8129

YuiRS.8129

Or you can just blind or block while stomp as Guardian,
or you can open stability when stomp as Warrior, Ele, Guardian or ranger or engi
or you can stealth while stomp as ranger, mesmer, thief or engi
or you can use invulnerable when stomp as engi, mesmer (f4),or ele
or you can just dps the corpse to death.

L2P… Stop QQ about ranger. It’s not like dogs make them to Meta.

Only 1 blind and not everybody has instant blind.
Not everybody can stealth.
Not everybody has invulnerability.
Can’t do that 1v1 because of the heal.

Doesn’t have anything to do with the meta, it’s just not fun when you beat them and then can’t finish them thanks to a ridiculous mechanic.

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Posted by: Shadelang.3012

Shadelang.3012

The ranger down state is one of THE LEAST reliable methods of surviving or having a continued impact on the fight in the game. Nearly ANYONE can effectively stomp a ranger. Or simply kill it before the Downed # 3 comes up.

Im sorry your having trouble. But many people have suggested not just in this thread but in others on the same topic how to deal with this.

Its actually remarkebly simple.

Either you pop something to make sure your stomp lands. Or you take teh safe route and continue to dps his downed body until he dies. 99% of the time you will have the damage to kill him before he can even TRY to pop downed 3.

This isn’t an OP mechanic. In the slightest. It has MULTIPLE methods of counterplay. If you chose not to bring ANYTHING to enable you to either A Dps him or B secure stomp him. Thats a problem that arose from your own choices. As evident by the number of people that DON’T have a problem with this skill in the slightest.

Instead of calling for a nerf. Please first look at what other people are saying and try to see why there NOT having a problem. And what there doing differently than you that allows them to kill a downed ranger just as easily (more so infact) as any other class.

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Posted by: Bran.7425

Bran.7425

Or you can just blind or block while stomp as Guardian,
or you can open stability when stomp as Warrior, Ele, Guardian or ranger or engi
or you can stealth while stomp as ranger, mesmer, thief or engi
or you can use invulnerable when stomp as engi, mesmer (f4),or ele
or you can just dps the corpse to death.

L2P… Stop QQ about ranger. It’s not like dogs make them to Meta.

Only 1 blind and not everybody has instant blind.
Not everybody can stealth.
Not everybody has invulnerability.
Can’t do that 1v1 because of the heal.

Doesn’t have anything to do with the meta, it’s just not fun when you beat them and then can’t finish them thanks to a ridiculous mechanic.

It could also be said for any of the profession with a 2nd down skill requires a target, that facing any opponent that can stealth is just not fun, but should that mean that stealth stomping should be removed?

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