Guild Wars 2

So i play a necromancer.I was testing ways to counter druid because obviously i want to get better and while there are some stuff i can do, its mostly impossible to even get near a druid before he invises then spams root and knockback then that multi arrow that does 10-15k dmg.Before you can even switch to put putrid mark on him, your dead.

If it wasn’t bad enough, you buffed his dmg and his cc, which was already over the top, exacerbating the situation.

Now i don’t want pvp to be bad for rangers, i want it to be fun for everyone, but i think there is simply too much cc and gap closers, because you get stun rooted etc and then your dead before you can say the word go.It doesn’t help the fact that condi is the best build and the minute you start bleeding someone, you get focused on and dead in less than 10 seconds via stun/root etc.

If pvp is to work out, this has to be fixed so its not just a burst fest to see who can burst down the quickest, and i don’t think buffing bleeds will solve it as it will be the same, just worse.

In pvp:Its better to have slower kills and more build ups than 1 hit kill burst kills.

They did not buffed rangers dmg nor cc. The changes to GS are pretty meaningless and won’t make this weapon good in PvP. Same goes for the buffs to pets. Smokescale and Bristleback will remain meta.

Is this a troll thread?
Or you really having time and getting killed by Power Ranger in sPVP while using Nec?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-February-22-2017

Even though mobility could be added to necro, im worried this might make necros too op.I don’t know if thats the answer.

I do know that druids have a lot of every type of thing:Good burst good control good cc mobility.

Burst in general is a little crazy, and so is cc, especially for a class that is slow and is more based around cc.

Fantom.8971

Is this a troll thread?
Or you really having time and getting killed by Power Ranger in sPVP while using Nec?

This was good for a little laugh. But seriously, the burst can definitely hit hard but to get it maximized the ranger/druid is going in all glass and is so easily pressured down that we begin feeling that pressure prior to the match start while teams are still loading… even if the build is set up to proc maximum damage in order to gap close, CC, and burst there is (potentially) a pet swap, swoop (very obvious gap close), hilt bash (buggy CC), and maul (burst damage). If the sequence prior to maul wasn’t enough of a tell, then maul itself creates an animation with the biggest warning in the game. Otherwise, thank you for letting me win a fight on rare occasion

its actually kinda frustrating because everyone keeps taking off my bleeds and stunning me before i can escape.Its beyond frustrating to get stunned and go from 100-0 in seconds.

the build isnt viable because its too hard to use vs thief and anything condi

They not OP, but binding roots is so annoying… unless I’m using it on one of my rangers.

You have plague signet, putrid mark, and even consume conditions. The roots apply in short intervals and don’t last long if you dont let them stack. So what I normally do is look at my healthbar and see if I can just outlast the immobs and survive the damage (don’t think it happens often in 1v1s though). Or if I have to cleanse, I’ll plague signet or putrid mark the ranger (or pet if he’s stealthed and don’t have any other choice) and then dodge so the next root wont hit.

They didn’t buff the meta build they buffed Greatsword and Survival, both of which are horrible and currently unused. It’s okay though, I know that basic knowledge of meta builds is a bit too much for some people to handle.

gotta learn to dodge the longbow 4 knockback. I suggest getting on a ranger and using the skill a couple of times to get familiar with the animation. after that learn the pet animations. if you got those 2 things down then you can beat rangers.

Rangers still super op.They are so op they are being stacked in spvp.Nothing but rangers.

most played classes i see in pvp are warrior, ranger, dragonhunter and then necro and thief follow. revenant and ele are on the bottom.

Stand The Wall.6987:

gotta learn to dodge the longbow 4 knockback. I suggest getting on a ranger and using the skill a couple of times to get familiar with the animation. after that learn the pet animations. if you got those 2 things down then you can beat rangers.

Firstly necro only has 2 dodges. SO you have to save a dodge for the bristleback burst and probably the other pet burst. Leaving noting for the knockback.

Secondly, the ranger will usually knock you back from stealth. So yeh.

Rickster.8752:

Stand The Wall.6987:

gotta learn to dodge the longbow 4 knockback. I suggest getting on a ranger and using the skill a couple of times to get familiar with the animation. after that learn the pet animations. if you got those 2 things down then you can beat rangers.

Firstly necro only has 2 dodges. SO you have to save a dodge for the bristleback burst and probably the other pet burst. Leaving noting for the knockback.

Secondly, the ranger will usually knock you back from stealth. So yeh.

You shouldn’t 1v1 a Ranger on Necro unless you can out play the ranger. Necro saying Ranger is OP is like Thief saying Guardian is OP or Condi Engi saying Necro is OP, it is just a bad match up and such statements hold no value.

They are not OP in top base. I can use Nec kill them like a bady. They have good sustain but no good output combat. Thier burst are also easy to dodge and need many condition to make it done.

Do not always stay on the point that you will be a big target and the obstacles is your friend. Those are hits for Nec fight with Ranger.

and sorry, i am use dagger. lol

Astonished Ancient Seed has not been removed or simply given a 30 second cooldown. That trait is outrageous and needs to be hammered badly. They have no idea what are the issues in the game.. and it is clear every 3 months when they simply don’t do anything about balance. The only thing that was spot on was the Dragonhunter’s increased cast tune on Spear of Justice… slight win ?… Who even knows.

Also to add to that Necro vs Druid situations.. why exactly is a necro not good vs a Druid? Oh wait let me see oh Ancient Seed.. guess what I just had a rant about being completely over tuned trait?. That is right… Oh yeah say all the condi cleanse you want… that’s fancy talk for perfect situations . If you use the cooldowns on your transfers you become a sitting duck as even the targeting on those roots are garbage. I play all classes mind you so I know what I’m talk about.

And yet again more Pet buffs… wow don’t get me started the HoT Pets Tiger (reduce fury uptime…needs cooldown increase on it’s F2)…. Smokescale needs to be wayyyyyy less tanky, and Bristleback as well wayyyy less tanky. Very big issue on HoT pets simply being way to good and is never addressed In PvP. There is a reason people constantly use them instead of all the other pets and it has to stop.
Oh guess what I use Druid and also use these pets so don’t call this post im doing some thing against Druids… I got plenty of other issues with every class because simply nothing is being done to address the horrible state of balance.

If nothing is done with Pets at least axe Natural Healing trait on them… Probably the trait which keeps the HoT pets alive since they are bruiser Dmg/Tanky types. Sure that would cause riots.

Maybe change your build and play style a bit? Or just fine tune it?
What works for others might not work for you. I personally use a power minion master build with d/wh and staff, and rangers I have the least problem with.

That said, no build is gonna be effective against everyone, so it’s all compromises.

LinhZeri.6412:

And yet again more Pet buffs… wow don’t get me started the HoT Pets Tiger (reduce fury uptime…needs cooldown increase on it’s F2)…. Smokescale needs to be wayyyyyy less tanky, and Bristleback as well wayyyy less tanky. Very big issue on HoT pets simply being way to good and is never addressed In PvP. There is a reason people constantly use them instead of all the other pets and it has to stop.
Oh guess what I use Druid and also use these pets so don’t call this post im doing some thing against Druids… I got plenty of other issues with every class because simply nothing is being done to address the horrible state of balance.

If nothing is done with Pets at least axe Natural Healing trait on them… Probably the trait which keeps the HoT pets alive since they are bruiser Dmg/Tanky types. Sure that would cause riots.

Other pets aren’t used, because they can’t compete with all the overpowered stuff that HoT brought to the game for all classes/elitespecs. As long the powercreep remains in the game, smokescale and bristleback will be neccessary for ranger to have a chance in the meta. They have to be tanky, because a dead pet is a useless pet, no matter how good it is when it’s alive. You should not be able to easily kill pets, because that just means, you can deny a whole class mechanic. And alone that you belive, its the Natural Healing trait, that keeps those pets alive, shows that you have no idea about what you are talking.

LinhZeri.6412:

Also to add to that Necro vs Druid situations.. why exactly is a necro not good vs a Druid? Oh wait let me see oh Ancient Seed.. guess what I just had a rant about being completely over tuned trait?. That is right… Oh yeah say all the condi cleanse you want… that’s fancy talk for perfect situations . If you use the cooldowns on your transfers you become a sitting duck as even the targeting on those roots are garbage. I play all classes mind you so I know what I’m talk about.

You don’t sound like you know what you are talking about actually. Druids beating Reapers has very little to do with Ancient Seeds. It is due to the fact that Reapers are very easy to kite and Druids can take them out from range.

Rickster.8752:

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use rs 2 for bristleback, rs 3 for stealth knockback. if youre stuck out of rs use warhorn daze, staff fear, or randomly dodge. if they are hitting you with the same burst then they are predictable. never engage anyone with low lf.

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idk. no fight is certain, there is no set strategy. hopefully this helps somehow.

Shaogin.2679:

LinhZeri.6412:

Also to add to that Necro vs Druid situations.. why exactly is a necro not good vs a Druid? Oh wait let me see oh Ancient Seed.. guess what I just had a rant about being completely over tuned trait?. That is right… Oh yeah say all the condi cleanse you want… that’s fancy talk for perfect situations . If you use the cooldowns on your transfers you become a sitting duck as even the targeting on those roots are garbage. I play all classes mind you so I know what I’m talk about.

You don’t sound like you know what you are talking about actually. Druids beating Reapers has very little to do with Ancient Seeds. It is due to the fact that Reapers are very easy to kite and Druids can take them out from range.

Yeah but Ancient Seeds prevents the necro from dodging which is literally our only damage avoidance. Getting hit with Ancient seeds in a team fight is almost always a death sentence.

Crinn.7864:

Shaogin.2679:

LinhZeri.6412:

Also to add to that Necro vs Druid situations.. why exactly is a necro not good vs a Druid? Oh wait let me see oh Ancient Seed.. guess what I just had a rant about being completely over tuned trait?. That is right… Oh yeah say all the condi cleanse you want… that’s fancy talk for perfect situations . If you use the cooldowns on your transfers you become a sitting duck as even the targeting on those roots are garbage. I play all classes mind you so I know what I’m talk about.

You don’t sound like you know what you are talking about actually. Druids beating Reapers has very little to do with Ancient Seeds. It is due to the fact that Reapers are very easy to kite and Druids can take them out from range.

Yeah but Ancient Seeds prevents the necro from dodging which is literally our only damage avoidance. Getting hit with Ancient seeds in a team fight is almost always a death sentence.

Immobilize on a class with so many options for condi clear/transfer is hardly a death sentence. In a 1v1 against a power druid, that is the precise skill to save your condi transfer for. Not to mention, you can still destroy projectiles while rooted with reaper shroud 2.

Shaogin.2679:

Crinn.7864:

Shaogin.2679:

LinhZeri.6412:

Also to add to that Necro vs Druid situations.. why exactly is a necro not good vs a Druid? Oh wait let me see oh Ancient Seed.. guess what I just had a rant about being completely over tuned trait?. That is right… Oh yeah say all the condi cleanse you want… that’s fancy talk for perfect situations . If you use the cooldowns on your transfers you become a sitting duck as even the targeting on those roots are garbage. I play all classes mind you so I know what I’m talk about.

You don’t sound like you know what you are talking about actually. Druids beating Reapers has very little to do with Ancient Seeds. It is due to the fact that Reapers are very easy to kite and Druids can take them out from range.

Yeah but Ancient Seeds prevents the necro from dodging which is literally our only damage avoidance. Getting hit with Ancient seeds in a team fight is almost always a death sentence.

Immobilize on a class with so many options for condi clear/transfer is hardly a death sentence. In a 1v1 against a power druid, that is the precise skill to save your condi transfer for. Not to mention, you can still destroy projectiles while rooted with reaper shroud 2.

Do you know what happens when you clear a pulsing immob? You’re still immobed because oh right it’s pulsing.

The entire reason AS is soo stupid strong is the fact that it pulses. If it wasn’t pulsing it would be no different than any other immob trait.

Crinn.7864:

Shaogin.2679:

Crinn.7864:

Shaogin.2679:

LinhZeri.6412:

Also to add to that Necro vs Druid situations.. why exactly is a necro not good vs a Druid? Oh wait let me see oh Ancient Seed.. guess what I just had a rant about being completely over tuned trait?. That is right… Oh yeah say all the condi cleanse you want… that’s fancy talk for perfect situations . If you use the cooldowns on your transfers you become a sitting duck as even the targeting on those roots are garbage. I play all classes mind you so I know what I’m talk about.

You don’t sound like you know what you are talking about actually. Druids beating Reapers has very little to do with Ancient Seeds. It is due to the fact that Reapers are very easy to kite and Druids can take them out from range.

Yeah but Ancient Seeds prevents the necro from dodging which is literally our only damage avoidance. Getting hit with Ancient seeds in a team fight is almost always a death sentence.

Immobilize on a class with so many options for condi clear/transfer is hardly a death sentence. In a 1v1 against a power druid, that is the precise skill to save your condi transfer for. Not to mention, you can still destroy projectiles while rooted with reaper shroud 2.

Do you know what happens when you clear a pulsing immob? You’re still immobed because oh right it’s pulsing.

The entire reason AS is soo stupid strong is the fact that it pulses. If it wasn’t pulsing it would be no different than any other immob trait.

I love when I use Wings of Resolve when playing my Guardian while affected with Ancient Seeds. You clear the immobilize, start moving, then immediately stop. Sometimes you even lose your healing when you land because of reasons.

I think its dumb that rangers are so op in pets in pvp dmg and that root.Something has to be done as its way overtuned, or the counter class to ranger has to be buffed in the counters so rangers actually die since they became god mode.Sure i can complain about other classes but no class makes me feel rage like a ranger.Its so braindead that they can tunnel you shoot their pew pew arrows while you are rooted and if you do they will just spam the root and stun again and spam it, and you’l likely be dead anyways because their pets are op as well.They need a massive pvp nerf.Thieves? thieves are hard sure but they require more skill than a druid.Warrior? sure they hit hard and they make me rage too, but they aren’t rooting me constantly like those legolas wannabes.Besides:Orlando bloom sucks.