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Posted by: Allie Murdock

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Hey all! As promised, I’m here to give a little insight on the leavers topic.

We can’t completely stop leavers, because ultimately it is up to the player to honor their teammates by showing up to the match (or not leaving).

But, since we updated the dishonored system in December, we have been monitoring the situation and have seen a large reduction in the number of occurrences. However, we are not where we need to be yet, so we are continuing to investigate other ways to handle this issue.

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Posted by: Flytrap.8075

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So many words used just to say “Nothing has changed”.

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Posted by: Amstel Steel.2058

Amstel Steel.2058

Ready button redesign to prevent afk loaders that drop one minute into the match unless your data shows it is not as much of a problem versus those that drop mid match. I don’t have connection issues, but I’ve seen other say they dropped at times. The dishonor system should handle the intentional midway through match leavers while being forgiving enough for the unintentional 4v5’s.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

lol leavers? People dont leave, they auto- run into a wall and can afk that way without getting kicked from the match. Smart but harsh, nerf running its OP.

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Posted by: felivear.1536

felivear.1536

If anything ever happens to ANET, you all have jobs waiting for you at the NSA. The game may have a ton of flaws, but you guys sure got a lot of training in “monitoring” stuff.

Not sure what ever happened to any of the stuff you monitor, but you monitor the crap out of it.

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Posted by: Amstel Steel.2058

Amstel Steel.2058

lol leavers? People dont leave, they auto- run into a wall and can afk that way without getting kicked from the match. Smart but harsh, nerf running its OP.

I’ve seen that and I just report for botting. Unless it is already a 4v5 and other team in 200 up and they letting 3 cap to end the landslide faster.

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Posted by: Exile.8160

Exile.8160

Also they leave mid fight and just come back in at the end of the match so nothing happens to then.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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@flytrap

Not at all.

@Allie

Finally someone at anet said it. I am critical of some things with this game but this 4v5 QQ is a fallacy which really annoys me when players blame Anet for it.

Like what do people want? For anet to make it impossible for people to turn their PCs off? It is absurd.

99% of 4v5 occurrences are unstoppable. How do you stop a dude rage quitting after the first mid fight?

People just blame anet for everything which is dumb. I defend anet for things like this. Anet have done a lot of good stuff to stop 4v5. They actually made dishonored a thing which was good. And they made people leave the rosters when they log off. Again a good thing.

Yes a ready button would help but it would only stop a small proportion of 4v5 matches so really who cares.

Anet deserve credit where it is due. They deserve no blame where its not fair to blame them. But on things like pistol whip/AR/dhuumfire/spirits/healing signet/zerker stance – then they deserve blame for not addressing these issues. And there are some other poor FEATURES like 1 game mode, no spectator mode in tournaments (wtf?!!?!?!) and no permanent decay. Call anet out where it is justified. Not for BS like this.

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Posted by: felivear.1536

felivear.1536

btw, I’m going to try this with my credit card company.

“Well, I do see the charge…and I do see that technically it hasn’t been paid..but I’m going to monitor it for a while to see what’s really going on before I make a snap decision and just send in the bill”

2 months later

“I have an update. It does appear, in fact, that the bill isn’t paid, but I’m not convinced that a bank statement is really a good gauge to see if I’ve paid it. My wife and I are discussing this internally and we’ll have more info soon”

1.5 years later

“So, i totally agree that we messed up and should have paid. So, what I’ve done is shaven off a bit of the payment. I sent in 1 dollar and I’m going to continue to monitor to see the effect it has. I don’t want to overpay.”

feLIVEar: Your resident forum king.

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Posted by: Allie Murdock

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Thanks Lordrosicky.5813 for understanding.

Before you guys continue to react over this, please pay attention to the entire post.

“However, we are not where we need to be yet, so we are continuing to investigate other ways to handle this issue.”

This should mean something to you.

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Posted by: Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

Make an option to choose what map you want to fight on, or a skip option, when joining an arena.

Balance

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Posted by: Exile.8160

Exile.8160

Make an option to choose what map you want to fight on, or a skip option, when joining an arena.

Balance

I second this ^

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Posted by: Rezz.8019

Rezz.8019

Dishonour system works just fine. 4v5 games are very rare. I get maybe 1 or 2 of those a week.

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Posted by: Pyriall.5027

Pyriall.5027

Thanks Lordrosicky.5813 for understanding.

Before you guys continue to react over this, please pay attention to the entire post.

“However, we are not where we need to be yet, so we are continuing to investigate other ways to handle this issue.”

This should mean something to you.

I really wish you wouldn’t say things like this. Before you go insulting players, how about you take an honest look at your past history when it comes to statements you are now highlighting. We know you said; “however, we are not where…”, but that is the problem. You say things like that ALL THE TIME and NOTHING IS DONE. What is so hard to understand about that? Someone above me put it best, you guys sure do investigate a lot of things, but boy do you fall short in fixing them.

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Posted by: silvermember.8941

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Thanks Lordrosicky.5813 for understanding.

Before you guys continue to react over this, please pay attention to the entire post.

“However, we are not where we need to be yet, so we are continuing to investigate other ways to handle this issue.”

This should mean something to you.

I really wish you wouldn’t say things like this. Before you go insulting players, how about you take an honest look at your past history when it comes to statements you are now highlighting. We know you said; “however, we are not where…”, but that is the problem. You say things like that ALL THE TIME and NOTHING IS DONE. What is so hard to understand about that? Someone above me put it best, you guys sure do investigate a lot of things, but boy do you fall short in fixing them.

They say that all the time because no system is ever perfect. They say it because they don’t want to give the impression that You (player) believes they (Anet) are padding themselves on the back while the problem still exist.

They say that all the time because it is the only thing they can say without people responding they way others have been responding, example look at the response after the OP.

They are lot of things Anet is responsible aka balance but in this case they have no choice but to say what they have said.

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Posted by: brannigan.9831

brannigan.9831

There are still matches that start 4v5. Don’t tell me there isn’t a fix for that I don’t care if its .05% of matches. Obviously there is only so much they can do but for the love of pete can’t you at least stop matches from going past the wait stage at the beginning that are 4 versus 5? Little things would go a long way.

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Posted by: Bart Weird.9671

Bart Weird.9671

Stop investigating and actually start working. Beta is over!

I can repeat myself /resign if the match is unwinable
/report afk to sort people out who abuse the system
and make a 4vs5 in a soloq match only count as a loss to the leaver
and not to the rest of the team.

Is there no developer used to basic pvp mechanisms or did you hire mostly newcomers? This is no offense but you had very skilled developers in gw1 who thought about their game. GW2 just lacks the simpliest features and I wonder why you refuse to listen to the community who is willing to help you out. I recommend you guys to play one week of gw1 pvp and get a short idea of how simply features work. If you can’t get your job done thn hire people who are able to take your part.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

Thanks Lordrosicky.5813 for understanding.

Before you guys continue to react over this, please pay attention to the entire post.

“However, we are not where we need to be yet, so we are continuing to investigate other ways to handle this issue.”

This should mean something to you.

I really wish you wouldn’t say things like this. Before you go insulting players, how about you take an honest look at your past history when it comes to statements you are now highlighting. We know you said; “however, we are not where…”, but that is the problem. You say things like that ALL THE TIME and NOTHING IS DONE. What is so hard to understand about that? Someone above me put it best, you guys sure do investigate a lot of things, but boy do you fall short in fixing them.

Get a grip dude. How has she insulted the players. It is much better that she (and anet) are “human” in their responses. It is BS comments like this which make them go into “politician mode”. It is 2014 dude, that has no place on the internet and most people hate it. Get with the program and realise that human responses are what the community wants and needs.

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Posted by: Allie Murdock

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Just because it doesn’t come exactly when you want it, doesn’t mean we won’t do it, and it doesn’t mean we aren’t working on it!

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Posted by: Ugruk.4069

Ugruk.4069

Just because it doesn’t come exactly when you want it, doesn’t mean we won’t do it, and it doesn’t mean we aren’t working on it!

Coming “soon”

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Posted by: Elendar.5204

Elendar.5204

Thanks Lordrosicky.5813 for understanding.

Before you guys continue to react over this, please pay attention to the entire post.

“However, we are not where we need to be yet, so we are continuing to investigate other ways to handle this issue.”

This should mean something to you.

While the addition of something to reduce this is definitely appreciated it unfortunately doesn’t make the 4v5 matches that still fairly regularly occur any less disheartening.

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Posted by: Fanta.8049

Fanta.8049

Phhhhhhhhhhhh Hope we got some leaver in pvp ,they all go for new WvW season now ,or all leave ,no one like to fight for nothing .Heart of the mist now bored ,just few ppl less.

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Posted by: Acandis.3250

Acandis.3250

lol leavers? People dont leave, they auto- run into a wall and can afk that way without getting kicked from the match. Smart but harsh, nerf running its OP.

Actually, this is false. Unless there are active keystrokes the game will be timing your AFK.Believe me, auto-running into a wall was the first thing I tried to avoid playing skyhammer.

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Posted by: Ugruk.4069

Ugruk.4069

You just have to alt tab into something else while you wait for the loss <.<

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Posted by: Killthehealersffs.8940

Killthehealersffs.8940

Help them with ideas , rather than be like raging monkies , blameming the old gezzers …

But if the implant the idea of <<John Corp>> and <<Credo.7231>> about a Progressing Tier … such as you play macthes normaly , you unlock tiers of special coockies that reset every 3 days
: such as the ability to start x5 Change of Map Vote + you get more money from the end reward/rank/more MF/ + other cool things from pve , while they loose these preveligies with each Leave might help vs leavers

brb …. an other night sfift today … i will argue with you tommorow …

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Posted by: Allie Murdock

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Thanks Lordrosicky.5813 for understanding.

Before you guys continue to react over this, please pay attention to the entire post.

“However, we are not where we need to be yet, so we are continuing to investigate other ways to handle this issue.”

This should mean something to you.

While the addition of something to reduce this is definitely appreciated it unfortunately doesn’t make the 4v5 matches that still fairly regularly occur any less disheartening.

Yes, I completely agree. I have experienced 4v5 (which turns into 3v5 because there’s always someone who doesn’t want to stick around at that point) and it’s definitely not fun. I’ve also been on the other end, on a team with the power play, and it’s not fun then either.

The best kind of game is one where each team has a fair shot, and it boils down to the skill and coordination of the players. We want to get to that point, but as Lord pointed out, we can’t control players from turning their computers off. We’ll do what we can to get there, though.

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Posted by: Miaz.8521

Miaz.8521

Add a report system for people afking in sPvP.

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Posted by: Allie Murdock

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Alright guys, if you’re just going to use this thread to attack the dev team, I’m closing it.

Thanks to those of you that posted suggestions and such.