Q:
Remove dishonor from decline button
+1
Dishonor on Decline is ridiculous given the length of queue times
Hackkz/Riggamaroll
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
Isn’t it there BECAUSE of que times? So that the person queing is certain ahead of time that hes going to accept the que? So that he isn’t wasiting the other 9 peoples times?
If he declines then he puts the other 9 back in que. Wasting there time even further in already long que times. Dishonor discourages him from doing so again.
Yes in the situation you mention it sucks. Ill full on agree with that. But taking it away gets rid of a part of what the dishonor system is there for in the first place. In this kind of situation I don’t think theres a solution that doesn’t involve SOMEONE getting kittened over.
If we take it away we may end up getting the que trolls back (People that would repeatedly join and then decline ques because the rage in map chat amused them).
I wonder if its possible to just have a limit on the number of declines per 24 hours. LIke one or two declines doesn’t produce any dishonor but 3-4 will lock you out. And it resets when the dailies reset.
Ghost Yak
(edited by Shadelang.3012)
Isn’t it there BECAUSE of que times? So that the person queing is certain ahead of time that hes going to accept the que? So that he isn’t wasiting the other 9 peoples times?
If he declines then he puts the other 9 back in que. Wasting there time even further in already long que times. Dishonor discourages him from doing so again.
Yes in the situation you mention it sucks. Ill full on agree with that. But taking it away gets rid of a part of what the dishonor system is there for in the first place. In this kind of situation I don’t think theres a solution that doesn’t involve SOMEONE getting kittened over.
If we take it away we may end up getting the que trolls back (People that would repeatedly join and then decline ques because the rage in map chat amused them).
I wonder if its possible to just have a limit on the number of declines per 24 hours. LIke one or two declines doesn’t produce any dishonor but 3-4 will lock you out. And it resets when the dailies reset.
Does it really waste more time than what it takes for that person to decline, though? I don’t recall queue times resetting when it happens, so I assume that the mmr search range doesn’t either.
Unless the other players missed out on a different possible queue pop in the time it took someone to decline they are only losing the minuscule effort required to accept the queue.
As long as there was a cooldown on punishment free declines, I don’t think it would cause any issues.
(edited by Serval.6458)
If I decline a que pop, why do I get dishonor. Maybe the phone rang or I had to grab something. I still want to play the game, I just could not take that specific que.
Is it fair to have to wait now because of this?
At least this gives the potential team better decency than me afk in the match. Why are we punished for declining?
Does dishonor affect pip or MMR?
If not, then no, I think it should stay.
It really only affects trollers who want to constantly decline matches, not players who unfortunately have to decline that one game. You took a phone call so you had to wait a little longer for the next game. It’s not like you’re doing this consistently.
If he declines then he puts the other 9 back in que. Wasting there time even further in already long que times. Dishonor discourages him from doing so again.
Couldn’t it be changed so that if one person declines or fails to accept it just gets offered to the next person in the queue? I thought it might have already been like that, often 9 of us accept within the first few seconds and number 10 takes a lot longer. Could even have it that it would break up parties, maybe if a party member fails to accept or declines anyone on their party gets a message “One of your party declined. Their place has been offered to another player” 10 seconds to choose between stay or leave. If they leave their place gets offered to another player as well, they don’t get dishonour as it wasn’t their fault for it.
Does dishonor affect pip or MMR?
As far as I know not directly but I’m sure I’ve read that if you have dishonour your more likely to get put with players who have dishonour. So team members that are moe likely to rage quit than ones without dishonour. Though players don’t get dishonour for staying in base when it starts leaning towards the enemy winning even though that is no more helpful than disconnecting, probably why some of them do that instead of just disconnecting so dishonour shouldn’t have a huge impact on how the match goes.
(edited by Sinmir.6504)
Couldn’t it be changed so that if one person declines or fails to accept it just gets offered to the next person in the queue?
No because that is a recipe for even bigger matchmaking failures. The system has to redo all the matchmaking if anyone declines. I personally think they should keep dishonor on decline, people who don’t drop queue when they have to afk for over 30 seconds are just selfish.
If you have to grab something, it will probably take less than 30 seconds so there’s no issue, if the phone rings, you know within the first 10 seconds of the phone call whether or not you will be on the phone for over 30 seconds.
Agreed, dishonor on decline seems to contradict its purpose..