Guild Wars 2

arenanet why you delete my thread ? you dont want people to know that there is a 50% winrate for everyone mechanic?

My win rate is 46,6666%, and still soloed my way to diamond (today, with DH)… Git Gut

as long as arenanet dont remove this mechanic , the matchmaking will remain bad.

Izanagi.9830:

arenanet why you delete my thread ? you dont want people to know that there is a 50% winrate for everyone mechanic?

If they do this they’ll have to completely rework the system.

i dont need to git gut , because i had 70%+ winrate and now i am still at 60%+ winrate but the system will keep matching me with useless players so i lose more often and go down to 50% winrate. Oh and i am already legendary….

Izangi, you’re insane to think Gw2 is the only game that does this.

It’s balanced around the 50% winrate so people can have even and fair matches.

thats how a good system MM system should work. its not “forcing” you into 50% winrate, it wont give you bad players on purpose to force losses. You started winning and as you where winning your MMR increased it moved you to higher tiers, putting you up against more skilled players and you started loosing more.

game would suck if it just matched up people randomly.

MMR system is not pushing you into 50% winrate, its not based on “how many wins/losses this player needs to hit 50%”. its trying to give you balanced matches and the consequence is ideally 50% winrate for majority of the players.

no you guys are wrong . i do pvp in the mists only since game release with over 10k played arena games , dont come here and say bullkitten you have no clue about.

in a good matchmaking system a good player always will fight with and against good players.

in gw2 this isnt the case , a good player often fight with and against bad players.
the reason why this happen is because there is a 50% winrate for everyone mechanic….thats also the reason for winning and losing streaks.
whenever i have a winstreak my mmr should rise and i should get matched with and against more better players but this is not happening , in gw2 its like this , whenever i have a winstreak i will get matches with bad players so i cannot win or have a high chance to lose the games —-> the 50% winrate for everyone kicked in.

gw2 used to have a good matchmaking system back 2 years ago but arenanet did remove it because bad players couldnt climb leaderboards so they did start crying.

50% winrate standard is inevitable since you guys are sharing decent meta builds all together through metabuild.com, and this game is Build Wars 2.

It is not Anet’s fault but actually our fault.

If you want winrate more than 50%, make decent build than meta builds, and don’t share it with other people. I did it pretty long time ago before metabattle.com website created, I got like 70~80% avg winrate at that time only in soloq only. Some1 posted the build on metabattle.com shortly after tho (as a name of ShoutBow)

THIS IS TRUTH.

What are you talking about? 5 god players vs 5 god players is 50% win rate, 5 good players vs 5 good players is also 50%, 5 ppl with 60% win rate(like you) vs 5 ppl with 60% win rate still gives 50% chance to both teams.

Um, is this thread intended to troll or what? Of course you should trend toward 50% win-rate. In an ideal matchmaking set, both teams have an equal chance to win. If you’re currently at 70% win rate and every match you play gives you a 50% chance to win, odds are you will slide down toward 50%.

It sounds like what you’re actually complaining about is matchmaking placing players of varied skill levels together? So instead of playing with and against players of equal skill to your own, you’re in matches that are 2 good and 3 not-as-good vs 2 good and 3 not-as-good?

online.1278:

50% winrate standard is inevitable since you guys are sharing decent meta builds all together through metabuild.com, and this game is Build Wars 2.

THIS IS TRUTH.

The build alone does nothing. You still have to rely on your team. Who cares if you build rules, you get paired with 3 thieves and its gg before the match starts.

I just won a match, barely, that’s a perfect example. We were dominating hard on foefire. Suddenly, 3 @ssholes went for the enemy lord (when we were winning 400 to 200) and died, the enemy capped all 3 points and went for our lord, i had to stay back to defend the lord and no matter how hard i called it, the @ssholes wouldn’t cap a single point, just fighting uselessly at close against 2 bunkers instead of going to the unguarded point.

So i couldn’t go help in a point because i knew they were coming for the lord, and they wouldn’t cap anything even though i was pinning far (unguarded) like crazy.

We won 500 to 420 with 3 enemies hitting on our lord. Pure luck really. What good was my build in all this?

I find it funny that some people think that 50% system in gw2 is fair. After 4.5k matches i can say for sure:
- you have below 50% win rate you get amazing teammates that even carry you (i could afk and we would probably still win while enemy team consists of much weaker players that simply don’t stand a chance). Prime example: i main dp thief, i got a match where i soloed literary every single player on enemy team w/o breaking a sweat (and by all means they were playing meta builds). It shouldn’t happen….
- you have 50% win rate you get semi balanced matches
- you have above 50% win rate: you get absolutely terrible teammates (stomping mesmer clones, zerging animal, double capping home, losing 3v1 fights) while enemy team is playing at ESL level. You still by some luck (lol DCs) win the games? Pray to gods that matchmaking doesn’t make you uninstall the game.

The way it really should work:
- you lose games, you face weaker opponents but also get weaker teammates
- you win games, you get better opponents but also better teammates

What current matchmaking does: it literary puts you in games you are not supposed to win by all means (clutch win with 3 pips or not losing any pips at all say hello). I feel it is such waste of time being put in matches where you are doomed not to win from begin with.

50% win/loss means you’re playing at your skill level. Above 50% and it means the majority of the players you fight are below your skill level. Below 50% and you’re fighting players way better than you.

I don’t see the issue.

Crinn.7864:

50% win/loss means you’re playing at your skill level. Above 50% and it means the majority of the players you fight are below your skill level. Below 50% and you’re fighting players way better than you.

I don’t see the issue.

Ok explain me then this situation. I got a player in my team in one match, we are facing necro and mesmers, i did quick job with mesmers but necro started to rez him, so i used all my Cds and ini to interrupt necro from rezzing mes in hopes my teammate would stomp mes. Well he didn’t. He chose to stomp mesmer clone. Mes got rezzed, i downed him again. The same thing happens again, my teammate continued to stomp clone instead of the mesmer. The player was obviously new to pvp and inexperienced. Please explain me how did system came to conclusion that such clearly inexperienced player is on same skill level as veteran like me or enemy team we were facing?

I am not even going to mention days before leagues when i saw full team of rabbits facing my team of vet players. They got stomped 500-0. CLEARLY the system is working~