Guild Wars 2

title speaks for itself since thief isnt in a great spot when it comes to risk vs reward i think this would be a good way of balancing thief.

Not to mention thief is already still 3 secs in pve it would help alot of players in pve get into pvp and get good at thief in tourny which is something that takes alot more effort on thief then other classes

its a good way of allowing us to survive better in teamfights and 1v1s which thief is really lacking right now on all builds.

id also like to maybe see black powder be reverted as well since its a very small circle and after the nerf ppl arent forced out of the ring anymore they can just blow u up through it

id ask for other peoples opinions but im pretty sure ppl argue just to argue

No. Keep it as-is but give Thieves a baseline decrease to 3 seconds.

why dont they just take thieves out of the game nobody plays it anymore anyway

Thieves were taken more than engineers, guardians and warriors, and tied with ranger and necro in the NA pro leagues, so it’s not like “nobody plays it anymore”. EU has a weird bunker meta going on so we’ll ignore them.

I don’t think it a that much to ask for when.U consider the little reward theif gets for the risk it takes to play one

And can we please stop with the blank played in the toury so that means that’s the meta nonsense

I don’t think it a that much to ask for when.U consider the little reward theif gets for the risk it takes to play one

And can we please stop with the blank played in the toury so that means that’s the meta nonsense

It makes 0 sense to try to power creep thief in this way. Thief already shuts down every other dps besides dragon hunter and revenant. Turns out those are the only reasons thief isn’t viable, because dragon hunter and revenants. Sooo maybe we should look to toning things down instead of buffing more things up?

Eurantien.4632:

It makes 0 sense to try to power creep thief in this way. Thief already shuts down every other dps besides dragon hunter and revenant. Turns out those are the only reasons thief isn’t viable, because dragon hunter and revenants. Sooo maybe we should look to toning things down instead of buffing more things up?

What are these other dps specs that would be oh so viable if not for thief?

ranger, mesmer, ele, warrior, necro

Eurantien.4632:

ranger, mesmer, ele, warrior, necro

lolololo

Ranger: Why go dps when druid is more powerful and easily beats thief?
Mesmer: Have had a 50/50 win rate against thief ever since the June patch even as dps. With Chrono Mesmer outperforms thief.
Ele: Why go full dps when tempest is so much better and counters thief?
Necro: Power necro is perfectly viable and one of the fights a thief has a fair shot against
Warrior: You think thief is keeping warrior down? lol. try every other class.

Here, lets list what counters thief and what thief counters atm.

Thief currently fully counters nothing. Maybe power rangers (non druid)

Things that hard counter thief: Scrapper, DH, Tempest.
Things that soft counter thief: Chrono, Druid

Dakarius.3284:

Eurantien.4632:

ranger, mesmer, ele, warrior, necro

lolololo

Ranger: Why go dps when druid is more powerful and easily beats thief?
Mesmer: Have had a 50/50 win rate against thief ever since the June patch even as dps. With Chrono Mesmer outperforms thief.
Ele: Why go full dps when tempest is so much better and counters thief?
Necro: Power necro is perfectly viable and one of the fights a thief has a fair shot against
Warrior: You think thief is keeping warrior down? lol. try every other class.

Here, lets list what counters thief and what thief counters atm.

Thief currently fully counters nothing. Maybe power rangers (non druid)

Things that hard counter thief: Scrapper, DH, Tempest.
Things that soft counter thief: Chrono, Druid

Ummm

What are these other dps specs that would be oh so viable if not for thief?

So you just said it. Druid can’t go dps, ele can’t go dps, mesmer can go dps 50% of the time, dps necro is viable? (I don’t think so). That seems like thief (and now DH and rev) push these things out of the meta.

Eurantien.4632:

Dakarius.3284:

Eurantien.4632:

ranger, mesmer, ele, warrior, necro

lolololo

Ranger: Why go dps when druid is more powerful and easily beats thief?
Mesmer: Have had a 50/50 win rate against thief ever since the June patch even as dps. With Chrono Mesmer outperforms thief.
Ele: Why go full dps when tempest is so much better and counters thief?
Necro: Power necro is perfectly viable and one of the fights a thief has a fair shot against
Warrior: You think thief is keeping warrior down? lol. try every other class.

Here, lets list what counters thief and what thief counters atm.

Thief currently fully counters nothing. Maybe power rangers (non druid)

Things that hard counter thief: Scrapper, DH, Tempest.
Things that soft counter thief: Chrono, Druid

Ummm

What are these other dps specs that would be oh so viable if not for thief?

So you just said it. Druid can’t go dps, ele can’t go dps, mesmer can go dps 50% of the time, dps necro is viable? (I don’t think so). That seems like thief (and now DH and rev) push these things out of the meta.

Yeah no, those things aren’t meta because either A there are more viable builds (druid, tempest, condi reaper) or B because they get kitten on by all the other builds. There’s not a single build that thief hard counters in the way that thief is hard countered by DH. That’s the most lopsided matchup i’ve ever seen in gw2. And trust me, it’s not DH’s that have made thief unviable, it’s the fact that we can’t 1v1 any more. all we have going for us is mobility. Our survivability is kitten, our single target damage is mediocre and our aoe is meh. Our support is crap.