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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

After reading and posting on the subject of how queue types should be arranged, and the debate over the existence of hotjoin, these are my most important suggestions for how the queue system should be reworked. These changes aim to alleviate frustration from both newbies and veteran players.

1. Rated team queue: The ‘serious’ queue with TotSS, Khylo, Niflhel, Foefire. 1500 rank point rewards

2. Rated Solo Queue: Solo play only with TotSS, Khylo, Niflhel, Foefire. 1000 rank point rewards

3. Unrated Queue: Casual queue with anywhere from 1-5 party members. TotSS, Khylo, Niflhel, Foefire, Spirit Watch, Skyhammer. 750 rank point rewards

4. Hotjoin is maintained as an 8v8 game mode on a number of public custom arenas. Maybe on the new deathmatch arena. Hotjoin rewards 250 rank points per win.

5. Hotjoin is now manual join from the server list only and the “Play Now” now is changed to the “Unrated Game” button.

6. New players must be at least rank 20 to participate in Ranked Queues

7. New players MMR starts out at 25%, meaning they have to work their way up the leaderboards and are not immediately paired with top players

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Posted by: AlbertoUlkesh.4517

AlbertoUlkesh.4517

Sounds good overall, would be a huge improvement. A few thoughts:

  • Why more points for Solo compared to Team?
  • Unrated Queue: When you say 1-5 party members, you mean dedicated servers for for example 3v3? ’cause 4v5 would still be no fun in any scenario…

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

Sounds good overall, would be a huge improvement. A few thoughts:

  • Why more points for Solo compared to Team?
  • Unrated Queue: When you say 1-5 party members, you mean dedicated servers for for example 3v3? ’cause 4v5 would still be no fun in any scenario…

Maybe you misread? Team queue gives 1500 rank pts, solo gives 1000 (same as it is right now)

1-5 party members means that in unrated queue, you can join with a full party, a partial party or by yourself (similar to the current rated team queue). All this would mean is that people who want to queue with a friend or a few friends would be able to in the “Unrated queue”. Matches would still be determined by hidden MMR.

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Posted by: AlbertoUlkesh.4517

AlbertoUlkesh.4517

Yes, sorry, I mistyped, I meant why more points for Team compared to Solo? I know that’s the case right now. I’m just not really sure why (if we assume both Queues would work with this change, which currently is debatable.)

1-5 for joining sounds good for Unrated Q!

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

Yes, sorry, I mistyped, I meant why more points for Team compared to Solo? I know that’s the case right now. I’m just not really sure why (if we assume both Queues would work with this change, which currently is debatable.)

1-5 for joining sounds good for Unrated Q!

I think the purpose behind more team queue rank point rewards is just the fact that it takes a lot more effort to get a group of 5 together for games and Arenanet wants to try and motivate some of these pug groups to actually form teams eventually

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Posted by: Forsaker.9213

Forsaker.9213

nice sugestions , to bad anet dont listen to feedback

only problem i see that we already have realy small pvp comunity , if we gonna spilt this even more , we gonna w8 for que to pop for 1h

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

Nice suggestions but:

Keep hotjoin/ca’s as training grounds, duels, whatever the community comes up with. Do not give it any rewards.

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

nice sugestions , to bad anet dont listen to feedback

only problem i see that we already have realy small pvp comunity , if we gonna spilt this even more , we gonna w8 for que to pop for 1h

Well, I think that by replacing the “Play Now” button with the “Unrated Game” button, it would be relatively easy to transfer a lot of the current hotjoin community into the unrated queue.

This means that the solo and team queue population would probably remain the same while the former hotjoiners now enjoy increased rewards and more casual nature of the unrated queue.

Not only that, but as these hotjoin players play unrated queue, they will become more comfortable with conquest as a game mode and some may eventually decide to start playing the rated queues resulting in lower queue times.

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

Nice suggestions but:

Keep hotjoin/ca’s as training grounds, duels, whatever the community comes up with. Do not give it any rewards.

Well my suggestions kind of do this: Glory from hotjoins is halved, only the number of public servers required to house the demand are kept open by Arenanet.

Id prefer hotjoin to not give any glory, but these suggestions were meant as a compromise between different parts of the community

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