Guild Wars 2

What additional reward tracks would you like to see?
I’d be interested in a T6 track. Even if it were a one shot or the reward was account bound. It would be nice to get 50-100 T6 mats reliably.

I would like to see a Reward Track that doesn’t have a single bloody tome in it!

I make a thread like this every couple months so thank you for beating me to it.

I would like a raid reward track, we have 3 raid wings and a raid reward track could earn you rewards from that raid wing. For instance the Guild Hall trophys for vale,gors,sab.

I have a scribe of like 288 and guild mate has 400 level scribing so it would be nice to make all the trophys since we are a smaller guild.

I would also like a consume all button for the tomes i have collected. I will not double click 2k+ tomes, these would be 2 features i would like to see added.

I would like track that gives only gold. Atm we have BAG INSIDE BAG INSIDE BAG THAT IS INSIDE ANOTHER BAG IN BAG and then you get item that boost your experience and give you another BAG INSIDE BAG INSIDE BAG THAT IS INSIDE ANOTHER BAG IN BAG ….. (if you are lucky you get item that cant be sold only destroyed and you have to write 100 letters name to destroy it FUNFUN). Also ton of useless pve poo for poopoo wanabe pve crafting. Also when my mouse buttons die of overclicking i expect anet to send me new one.

Ok random cosmetic skins/dyes arent bad too for the final reward of gold track.

kdaddy.5431:

I make a thread like this every couple months so thank you for beating me to it.

I would like a raid reward track, we have 3 raid wings and a raid reward track could earn you rewards from that raid wing. For instance the Guild Hall trophys for vale,gors,sab.

I have a scribe of like 288 and guild mate has 400 level scribing so it would be nice to make all the trophys since we are a smaller guild.

I would also like a consume all button for the tomes i have collected. I will not double click 2k+ tomes, these would be 2 features i would like to see added.

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

I make a thread like this every couple months so thank you for beating me to it.

I would like a raid reward track, we have 3 raid wings and a raid reward track could earn you rewards from that raid wing. For instance the Guild Hall trophys for vale,gors,sab.

I have a scribe of like 288 and guild mate has 400 level scribing so it would be nice to make all the trophys since we are a smaller guild.

I would also like a consume all button for the tomes i have collected. I will not double click 2k+ tomes, these would be 2 features i would like to see added.

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

Right like Anet making getting to level easier for Pve players in PvP? Like when i had to get 200,000 glory to level and then Anet made it 20,000. There had to of been at least 15+ players in the level 70+. Thousands upon thousands of game played and Anet said what ever everyone is level 80 now. How can you even compare the amount of time/game played to raid kills. Talking about “they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE”.

How about the people who didnt finish coliseum or capricorn? They cried hard enough to make them permanent.

I was all for people yelling at Anet for releasing a new map during the PvP season but Anet caves all the time to casual PvE players.

I also thought hot join should be ridden of and many people said hey dont ruin it for casuals. I actually just wanted it made simply, no PvP dailys can be done in hot join.

Ive done W1 of raids and to be honest i dont like looking for a new puig group every week to get me kills. Why shouldnt i be able to get the trophys?

Name 1 decent reason, its not like Anet got rid of leader boards MMR based and gave it to farmers. Or made league a joke, so why is it that Leagues can be made for PvE players who were able to grind legendary wings and i simply cant have trophys?

I dont want the dumb skins, i dont want the minis or kill proof or Legendary insights. I just want to get trophys in a area of the game i still want to play.

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

Something that has 100% chance of Magumma Liliys, preferably at least 3 per track.

kdaddy.5431:

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

I make a thread like this every couple months so thank you for beating me to it.

I would like a raid reward track, we have 3 raid wings and a raid reward track could earn you rewards from that raid wing. For instance the Guild Hall trophys for vale,gors,sab.

I have a scribe of like 288 and guild mate has 400 level scribing so it would be nice to make all the trophys since we are a smaller guild.

I would also like a consume all button for the tomes i have collected. I will not double click 2k+ tomes, these would be 2 features i would like to see added.

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

Right like Anet making getting to level easier for Pve players in PvP? Like when i had to get 200,000 glory to level and then Anet made it 20,000. There had to of been at least 15+ players in the level 70+. Thousands upon thousands of game played and Anet said what ever everyone is level 80 now. How can you even compare the amount of time/game played to raid kills. Talking about “they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE”.

How about the people who didnt finish coliseum or capricorn? They cried hard enough to make them permanent.

I was all for people yelling at Anet for releasing a new map during the PvP season but Anet caves all the time to casual PvE players.

I also thought hot join should be ridden of and many people said hey dont ruin it for casuals. I actually just wanted it made simply, no PvP dailys can be done in hot join.

Ive done W1 of raids and to be honest i dont like looking for a new puig group every week to get me kills. Why shouldnt i be able to get the trophys?

Name 1 decent reason, its not like Anet got rid of leader boards MMR based and gave it to farmers. Or made league a joke, so why is it that Leagues can be made for PvE players who were able to grind legendary wings and i simply cant have trophys?

I dont want the dumb skins, i dont want the minis or kill proof or Legendary insights. I just want to get trophys in a area of the game i still want to play.

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Nothing you listed is relevant to the discussion.

• Anet lowered the glory requirement to get to level 80, guess what you still have to play PvP games to get to lvl 80. It isn’t just handed out to people who play other content

• ANet made coliseum and capricorn achievements permanent. Guess what, you still have to play PvP to get those achievements. You won’t get them through PvE (and for the record, making them permanent was the right thing to do insofar as this game is sorely lacking for permanent AP, at this point we need as many permanent achievements as possible)

Hot join is even less relevant. Despite whether you like it or not, it is still PvP. Just because ANet has allowed it to devolve to a system where people trade wins for dailies doesn’t mean it isn’t PvP.

Everything you listed requires playing the game mode and the specific content to get the rewards. Everything you listed backs up my argument that raid rewards should remain raid exclusive. If you don’t raid you don’t deserve them, its that simple. You shouldn’t get everything handed to you just because you don’t like to play some content

Vavume.8065:

Something that has 100% chance of Magumma Liliys, preferably at least 3 per track.

As the seller of those goodies, I hope not. They are the only HoT crafting mat left that is still worth selling even if getting them is rare.

No you dont, have you seen PvP daily rooms?

You dont play PvP and you will receive your 4 potions, also why do you think they extended the maps?

For those who want the AP but dont want to take more then 2-3 matches a day to do it.

Most of us got all the ap for it in less then 2 weeks.

Which once again means that no they are not really playing PvP, simply making a slow grind towards something and im asking for the same thing. How about this for the next patch, Anet gets rid of the timers on all the bosses for raids? Same thing

Lastly its all relevant, GW2 has done nothing for the PvP and WvW scene. Yes this is a PvE game but they made PvP part of it with the huge patch. In that patch Anet made everything easier for casual PvE players to get some of the AP. Once again Anet caves to the casuals of PvE on PvP maps.

Here you have new content for PvE with HOT farming zerg maps and raids. Yet if you only PvP or WvW you will not receive anything. Anet came out with PvE legendary back pcs in fractals. Anet also made it easy to get the legendary back pc for PvP. Most of us had 1/2 threw season 2.

How is this relevant? Raids take 10 people to do them, from my casual PvP stand point. I dont have time to be looking for people to raid. (this is me crying, like all the examples i gave above) You say its because you should have to raid to get these rewards. Well guess what i and many others have said you should have to be decent to get the PvP rewards which hasnt happened. Many people have streamed games where someone sat home and were in legendary. If you want legit rewards for certain things then actually make the areas of the game legit.

I would like raid rewards tracks, Anet caters to the PvE player so why shouldnt PvP players get the same things or WvW players?

Vavume.8065:

Something that has 100% chance of Magumma Liliys, preferably at least 3 per track.

Dont ask for anything, PvE players dont want you to have anything. If you want lilys you must spend hours in the HOT maps.

Yet you can get the armor/weapons/ other rewards from the mordre moth cache reward track, ohhh crap dont let them know. They will ask for it to get removed!!!!!!!!!!!

Oriori is about to reply to me that if i want the leystone armor i should farm the DS meta event because its for Pve players!!!!!!!!!

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

I make a thread like this every couple months so thank you for beating me to it.

I would like a raid reward track, we have 3 raid wings and a raid reward track could earn you rewards from that raid wing. For instance the Guild Hall trophys for vale,gors,sab.

I have a scribe of like 288 and guild mate has 400 level scribing so it would be nice to make all the trophys since we are a smaller guild.

I would also like a consume all button for the tomes i have collected. I will not double click 2k+ tomes, these would be 2 features i would like to see added.

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

Right like Anet making getting to level easier for Pve players in PvP? Like when i had to get 200,000 glory to level and then Anet made it 20,000. There had to of been at least 15+ players in the level 70+. Thousands upon thousands of game played and Anet said what ever everyone is level 80 now. How can you even compare the amount of time/game played to raid kills. Talking about “they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE”.

How about the people who didnt finish coliseum or capricorn? They cried hard enough to make them permanent.

I was all for people yelling at Anet for releasing a new map during the PvP season but Anet caves all the time to casual PvE players.

I also thought hot join should be ridden of and many people said hey dont ruin it for casuals. I actually just wanted it made simply, no PvP dailys can be done in hot join.

Ive done W1 of raids and to be honest i dont like looking for a new puig group every week to get me kills. Why shouldnt i be able to get the trophys?

Name 1 decent reason, its not like Anet got rid of leader boards MMR based and gave it to farmers. Or made league a joke, so why is it that Leagues can be made for PvE players who were able to grind legendary wings and i simply cant have trophys?

I dont want the dumb skins, i dont want the minis or kill proof or Legendary insights. I just want to get trophys in a area of the game i still want to play.

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Nothing you listed is relevant to the discussion.

• Anet lowered the glory requirement to get to level 80, guess what you still have to play PvP games to get to lvl 80. It isn’t just handed out to people who play other content

• ANet made coliseum and capricorn achievements permanent. Guess what, you still have to play PvP to get those achievements. You won’t get them through PvE (and for the record, making them permanent was the right thing to do insofar as this game is sorely lacking for permanent AP, at this point we need as many permanent achievements as possible)

Hot join is even less relevant. Despite whether you like it or not, it is still PvP. Just because ANet has allowed it to devolve to a system where people trade wins for dailies doesn’t mean it isn’t PvP.

Everything you listed requires playing the game mode and the specific content to get the rewards. Everything you listed backs up my argument that raid rewards should remain raid exclusive. If you don’t raid you don’t deserve them, its that simple. You shouldn’t get everything handed to you just because you don’t like to play some content

nice bias right here son

anyone regardless how little they know about pvp, other classes or the game itself is able to get pvp dailies done, progress pvp reward track, get pvp achievements and even get at least sapphire rank because they will be matched with equally (un)skilled players making their matches as simple as it can be imagined

so how about ill just enter a raid solo like a pvp match, then have it adjusted to my level of knowledge about the raid mechanics and my level of pve skillz then get the same reward as everybody else for clearing it?

bet if raids were updated to be like that you’d be so salty you would even forget about well of precognition

I’d like them to add mystic clovers to the dungeon reward tracks.

one with a black lion skin unlock item at the end?

Lexander.4579:

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

I make a thread like this every couple months so thank you for beating me to it.

I would like a raid reward track, we have 3 raid wings and a raid reward track could earn you rewards from that raid wing. For instance the Guild Hall trophys for vale,gors,sab.

I have a scribe of like 288 and guild mate has 400 level scribing so it would be nice to make all the trophys since we are a smaller guild.

I would also like a consume all button for the tomes i have collected. I will not double click 2k+ tomes, these would be 2 features i would like to see added.

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

Right like Anet making getting to level easier for Pve players in PvP? Like when i had to get 200,000 glory to level and then Anet made it 20,000. There had to of been at least 15+ players in the level 70+. Thousands upon thousands of game played and Anet said what ever everyone is level 80 now. How can you even compare the amount of time/game played to raid kills. Talking about “they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE”.

How about the people who didnt finish coliseum or capricorn? They cried hard enough to make them permanent.

I was all for people yelling at Anet for releasing a new map during the PvP season but Anet caves all the time to casual PvE players.

I also thought hot join should be ridden of and many people said hey dont ruin it for casuals. I actually just wanted it made simply, no PvP dailys can be done in hot join.

Ive done W1 of raids and to be honest i dont like looking for a new puig group every week to get me kills. Why shouldnt i be able to get the trophys?

Name 1 decent reason, its not like Anet got rid of leader boards MMR based and gave it to farmers. Or made league a joke, so why is it that Leagues can be made for PvE players who were able to grind legendary wings and i simply cant have trophys?

I dont want the dumb skins, i dont want the minis or kill proof or Legendary insights. I just want to get trophys in a area of the game i still want to play.

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Nothing you listed is relevant to the discussion.

• Anet lowered the glory requirement to get to level 80, guess what you still have to play PvP games to get to lvl 80. It isn’t just handed out to people who play other content

• ANet made coliseum and capricorn achievements permanent. Guess what, you still have to play PvP to get those achievements. You won’t get them through PvE (and for the record, making them permanent was the right thing to do insofar as this game is sorely lacking for permanent AP, at this point we need as many permanent achievements as possible)

Hot join is even less relevant. Despite whether you like it or not, it is still PvP. Just because ANet has allowed it to devolve to a system where people trade wins for dailies doesn’t mean it isn’t PvP.

Everything you listed requires playing the game mode and the specific content to get the rewards. Everything you listed backs up my argument that raid rewards should remain raid exclusive. If you don’t raid you don’t deserve them, its that simple. You shouldn’t get everything handed to you just because you don’t like to play some content

nice bias right here son

anyone regardless how little they know about pvp, other classes or the game itself is able to get pvp dailies done, progress pvp reward track, get pvp achievements and even get at least sapphire rank because they will be matched with equally (un)skilled players making their matches as simple as it can be imagined

so how about ill just enter a raid solo like a pvp match, then have it adjusted to my level of knowledge about the raid mechanics and my level of pve skillz then get the same reward as everybody else for clearing it?

bet if raids were updated to be like that you’d be so salty you would even forget about well of precognition

basically you dont want pvp anymore right? that or your complaining you cant squash new players because “MUH MMR!!!”

Lexander.4579:

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

Right like Anet making getting to level easier for Pve players in PvP? Like when i had to get 200,000 glory to level and then Anet made it 20,000. There had to of been at least 15+ players in the level 70+. Thousands upon thousands of game played and Anet said what ever everyone is level 80 now. How can you even compare the amount of time/game played to raid kills. Talking about “they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE”.

How about the people who didnt finish coliseum or capricorn? They cried hard enough to make them permanent.

I was all for people yelling at Anet for releasing a new map during the PvP season but Anet caves all the time to casual PvE players.

I also thought hot join should be ridden of and many people said hey dont ruin it for casuals. I actually just wanted it made simply, no PvP dailys can be done in hot join.

Ive done W1 of raids and to be honest i dont like looking for a new puig group every week to get me kills. Why shouldnt i be able to get the trophys?

Name 1 decent reason, its not like Anet got rid of leader boards MMR based and gave it to farmers. Or made league a joke, so why is it that Leagues can be made for PvE players who were able to grind legendary wings and i simply cant have trophys?

I dont want the dumb skins, i dont want the minis or kill proof or Legendary insights. I just want to get trophys in a area of the game i still want to play.

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Nothing you listed is relevant to the discussion.

• Anet lowered the glory requirement to get to level 80, guess what you still have to play PvP games to get to lvl 80. It isn’t just handed out to people who play other content

• ANet made coliseum and capricorn achievements permanent. Guess what, you still have to play PvP to get those achievements. You won’t get them through PvE (and for the record, making them permanent was the right thing to do insofar as this game is sorely lacking for permanent AP, at this point we need as many permanent achievements as possible)

Hot join is even less relevant. Despite whether you like it or not, it is still PvP. Just because ANet has allowed it to devolve to a system where people trade wins for dailies doesn’t mean it isn’t PvP.

Everything you listed requires playing the game mode and the specific content to get the rewards. Everything you listed backs up my argument that raid rewards should remain raid exclusive. If you don’t raid you don’t deserve them, its that simple. You shouldn’t get everything handed to you just because you don’t like to play some content

nice bias right here son

anyone regardless how little they know about pvp, other classes or the game itself is able to get pvp dailies done, progress pvp reward track, get pvp achievements and even get at least sapphire rank because they will be matched with equally (un)skilled players making their matches as simple as it can be imagined

so how about ill just enter a raid solo like a pvp match, then have it adjusted to my level of knowledge about the raid mechanics and my level of pve skillz then get the same reward as everybody else for clearing it?

bet if raids were updated to be like that you’d be so salty you would even forget about well of precognition

You and kdaddy are talking out of your kitten as if raid rewards are just handed out to every player who does PvE, which is 100% not true. People have to work for those rewards, they put in a kittenton of practice and effort to get them and all you two want to do is cheapen that to hell because you are too lazy to learn the raids and complete them. If you want raid rewards you need to do raids its that simple.

And regardless of whether you two think you need any skill to complete PvP dailies (for the record, I never said you needed skill to complete them anyway so I don’t even know why this was brought up other than to divert the argument), you completely ignore the fact that players still have to play PvP game mode to get PvP rewards. If you want raid rewards then do the motherkittening raids. Its extremely simple. You aren’t entitled to raid rewards just because you don’t feel like doing them. Quit being so entitled. Work for the rewards that you want.

OriOri.8724:

Lexander.4579:

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

Right like Anet making getting to level easier for Pve players in PvP? Like when i had to get 200,000 glory to level and then Anet made it 20,000. There had to of been at least 15+ players in the level 70+. Thousands upon thousands of game played and Anet said what ever everyone is level 80 now. How can you even compare the amount of time/game played to raid kills. Talking about “they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE”.

How about the people who didnt finish coliseum or capricorn? They cried hard enough to make them permanent.

I was all for people yelling at Anet for releasing a new map during the PvP season but Anet caves all the time to casual PvE players.

I also thought hot join should be ridden of and many people said hey dont ruin it for casuals. I actually just wanted it made simply, no PvP dailys can be done in hot join.

Ive done W1 of raids and to be honest i dont like looking for a new puig group every week to get me kills. Why shouldnt i be able to get the trophys?

Name 1 decent reason, its not like Anet got rid of leader boards MMR based and gave it to farmers. Or made league a joke, so why is it that Leagues can be made for PvE players who were able to grind legendary wings and i simply cant have trophys?

I dont want the dumb skins, i dont want the minis or kill proof or Legendary insights. I just want to get trophys in a area of the game i still want to play.

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Nothing you listed is relevant to the discussion.

• Anet lowered the glory requirement to get to level 80, guess what you still have to play PvP games to get to lvl 80. It isn’t just handed out to people who play other content

• ANet made coliseum and capricorn achievements permanent. Guess what, you still have to play PvP to get those achievements. You won’t get them through PvE (and for the record, making them permanent was the right thing to do insofar as this game is sorely lacking for permanent AP, at this point we need as many permanent achievements as possible)

Hot join is even less relevant. Despite whether you like it or not, it is still PvP. Just because ANet has allowed it to devolve to a system where people trade wins for dailies doesn’t mean it isn’t PvP.

Everything you listed requires playing the game mode and the specific content to get the rewards. Everything you listed backs up my argument that raid rewards should remain raid exclusive. If you don’t raid you don’t deserve them, its that simple. You shouldn’t get everything handed to you just because you don’t like to play some content

nice bias right here son

anyone regardless how little they know about pvp, other classes or the game itself is able to get pvp dailies done, progress pvp reward track, get pvp achievements and even get at least sapphire rank because they will be matched with equally (un)skilled players making their matches as simple as it can be imagined

so how about ill just enter a raid solo like a pvp match, then have it adjusted to my level of knowledge about the raid mechanics and my level of pve skillz then get the same reward as everybody else for clearing it?

bet if raids were updated to be like that you’d be so salty you would even forget about well of precognition

You and kdaddy are talking out of your kitten as if raid rewards are just handed out to every player who does PvE, which is 100% not true. People have to work for those rewards, they put in a kittenton of practice and effort to get them and all you two want to do is cheapen that to hell because you are too lazy to learn the raids and complete them. If you want raid rewards you need to do raids its that simple.

And regardless of whether you two think you need any skill to complete PvP dailies (for the record, I never said you needed skill to complete them anyway so I don’t even know why this was brought up other than to divert the argument), you completely ignore the fact that players still have to play PvP game mode to get PvP rewards. If you want raid rewards then do the motherkittening raids. Its extremely simple. You aren’t entitled to raid rewards just because you don’t feel like doing them. Quit being so entitled. Work for the rewards that you want.

just in case you havent noticed all the spvp reward tracks are pve-related and/or contain a lot of pve rewards

there isnt such a thing as “pvp rewards” in the way you just put it, next time you farm your pvp daily in the rank farm lobby please do check out some of reward tracks

Lexander.4579:

OriOri.8724:

Lexander.4579:

nice bias right here son

anyone regardless how little they know about pvp, other classes or the game itself is able to get pvp dailies done, progress pvp reward track, get pvp achievements and even get at least sapphire rank because they will be matched with equally (un)skilled players making their matches as simple as it can be imagined

so how about ill just enter a raid solo like a pvp match, then have it adjusted to my level of knowledge about the raid mechanics and my level of pve skillz then get the same reward as everybody else for clearing it?

bet if raids were updated to be like that you’d be so salty you would even forget about well of precognition

You and kdaddy are talking out of your kitten as if raid rewards are just handed out to every player who does PvE, which is 100% not true. People have to work for those rewards, they put in a kittenton of practice and effort to get them and all you two want to do is cheapen that to hell because you are too lazy to learn the raids and complete them. If you want raid rewards you need to do raids its that simple.

And regardless of whether you two think you need any skill to complete PvP dailies (for the record, I never said you needed skill to complete them anyway so I don’t even know why this was brought up other than to divert the argument), you completely ignore the fact that players still have to play PvP game mode to get PvP rewards. If you want raid rewards then do the motherkittening raids. Its extremely simple. You aren’t entitled to raid rewards just because you don’t feel like doing them. Quit being so entitled. Work for the rewards that you want.

just in case you havent noticed all the spvp reward tracks are pve-related and/or contain a lot of pve rewards

there isnt such a thing as “pvp rewards” in the way you just put it, next time you farm your pvp daily in the rank farm lobby please do check out some of reward tracks

You have to finish dungeon story mode to unlock dungeon reward tracks. You have the Mist Champions reward tracks for stronghold. You have the finisher reward tracks. And the two newest tracks introduced with LWS3 require you to complete story steps (aka doing the PvE content) to get them.

Raid rewards are exclusive to raids. If you want raid rewards then you are going to have to raid. Its that kittening simple.

And for the record, I love how you stereotype me right off the bad. I have never played hot join, have never joined a rank farm nor anything else you might want to accuse me of, and I never will because I don’t enjoy that kitten. Kindly stop stereotyping me and making judgements on what I do in game based off of nothing but your refusal to do raids to get raid rewards.

Please give new skins to pvp only. Simple as that, one backpiece skin is not enough.

Patrick.2987:

Please give new skins to pvp only. Simple as that, one backpiece skin is not enough.

There’s three whole sets of Glorious armor that can only be obtained in PVE, six if you count the Glorious Hero armor too. Three more if you count the legacy armor, though that is also in WvW.

And that’s leaving out the fact that it’s much easier to get dungeon skins (especially weapons) in PVP than it is by doing actual dungeons.

I would like a reward track to upgrade Glorious Armor to an Ascended PvP precursor version, then to a legendary PvP version.

There should be exclusive PvP Legendary Armor. GW1 PvP armor was the best in the game.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Patrick.2987:

Please give new skins to pvp only. Simple as that, one backpiece skin is not enough.

There’s three whole sets of Glorious armor that can only be obtained in PVE, six if you count the Glorious Hero armor too. Three more if you count the legacy armor, though that is also in WvW.

And that’s leaving out the fact that it’s much easier to get dungeon skins (especially weapons) in PVP than it is by doing actual dungeons.

I think you meant Pv*P* there

Archon.6480:

I would like a reward track to upgrade Glorious Armor to an Ascended PvP precursor version, then to a legendary PvP version.

There should be exclusive PvP Legendary Armor. GW1 PvP armor was the best in the game.

As long as there are collections related to it that are equal in difficulty as the PvE collections are then sure. But simply doing a few reward tracks for legendary armor is not at all fair to people who want raid leg armor and have to put in months of work for the LI alone.

OriOri.8724:

Archon.6480:

I would like a reward track to upgrade Glorious Armor to an Ascended PvP precursor version, then to a legendary PvP version.

There should be exclusive PvP Legendary Armor. GW1 PvP armor was the best in the game.

As long as there are collections related to it that are equal in difficulty as the PvE collections are then sure. But simply doing a few reward tracks for legendary armor is not at all fair to people who want raid leg armor and have to put in months of work for the LI alone.

Just don’t get your hopes up, it took them over a year to get to a point where they can even show what 1 of the legendary armors looks like. I can imagine them doing something like giving WvW/PvP players a legendary armor, but it will be a long time coming. And it certainly won’t come from a reward track.

@ oriori

LOL i would like to point out that you seem upset because people are making assumptions about you. ( its obvious why) Yet you did the same thing to me and Lexander.

Like ive said before ive done W1 and ive done part of W3. I simply dont enjoy redoing the content over and over again pugging with 9 other people.

You yourself said you should have to unlock dungeon rewards/bloodstone fen/ember bay. well guess what ive unlocked them by doing them. You said im too lazy or i wasnt good enough.

Thats is the ultimate joke right there. You talk about other people yet get defensive.

Also if i may, raids were not that difficult. Anet messed them up and nerfed classes because of it so now everyone is rebounding. I myself do not want to grind my way threw more HOT content. If i had a static raid group sure every week we could knock it out but when you pug and run into people who dont want certain builds or dont like etc etc etc etc etc.

Seriously you could write that you raid and you prefer that you get to keep your exclusive rewards and skins which is ironic being someone already pointed out that most of the PvP reward tracks are PvE based which once again happened to cater to the casual PvE player.

I don’t raid at all. I’m not some elitist like Malediktus that wants to keep my raid rewards to myself, and I never said you were too lazy to do Ember Bay of RoF or dungeons. But If you want raid rewards you need to raid, and you have admitted that you refuse to do raids, AKA lazy.

A dye reward trach! Every single reward is a random dye – that’s account bound, because otherwise dye prices would fall like nothing else.

Would be interesting for new players and old players won’t bother mutch, because they would have a high chance of getting a dye double/trible without an option to use it

OriOri.8724:

I don’t raid at all. I’m not some elitist like Malediktus that wants to keep my raid rewards to myself, and I never said you were too lazy to do Ember Bay of RoF or dungeons. But If you want raid rewards you need to raid, and you have admitted that you refuse to do raids, AKA lazy.

If i may you wrote" You and kdaddy are talking out of your kitten as if raid rewards are just handed out to every player who does PvE, which is 100% not true. People have to work for those rewards, they put in a kittenton of practice and effort to get them and all you two want to do is cheapen that to hell because you are too lazy to learn the raids and complete them. If you want raid rewards you need to do raids its that simple."

Ive already proven ive done raids. I have not been in there for months simply because i do not like pugging threw 10 man groups. Once again you are calling me lazy when i dont like the set up content, though i can run multiple builds in a raid and i mostly play at a time where many people are not raiding.

Once again i would like to point out that you have proven nothing. If Anet wants to say you need to raid to get raid rewards its fine but its straight out a joke since they cater to the PvE casual for everything. You yourself listed the things we can get in PvP by simply doing the necessary PvE completions.

You cant sit there and say ohhh your devaluing raids. Anet made PvP PvE friendly. I can get currency from Ember bay with a PvP reward track, blood stone fen, dungeons, Hot map currency. The only thing i cant get is get a raid reward track.

Also simply put Anet could simply do the samything they do for raids for the reward track. Make it only doable once a week.

You can keep name calling all you want because i dont enjoy the environment of raids but Anet set up everything for everyone could get everything they wanted when they made PvP and WvW get reward tracks for PvE junk. Guess what i want raid crap and there is no reason why i shouldnt be able too.

If you say again if you want raid rewards you should raid, my reply is if you want dungeon rewards you should have to do dungeons. If you want HOT map currency you should have to play the meta events, if you want PvP rewards you should have to PvP (get rid of hot join dailys) and thats the bottom line.

• PvE rewards should stay in PvE.
• WvW rewards should stay in WvW.
• PvP rewards should stay in PvP.
• All game modes should have more exclusive skins (armor/weapons) that encourage players to play the respective game modes.

Moving PvE rewards to PvP or PvP rewards to PvE is a bad idea, and encourages players to tunnel-vision their preferred game mode and get all rewards that way. It also muddies the prestige of skins because you have no idea where a person got said skin if it’s available in multiple game modes (This is why HoT legendaries are not available in the ToL, for instance). ANet wants to encourage players to be playing multiple game modes for more time so that all game modes have solid player bases. ANet should never have moved dungeon rewards to PvP, and I believe they recognized that mistake after the fact and won’t do it again.

Anyway, these are some reward tracks that I want:

• Repeatable reward track that rewards Black Lion Keys and Mystic Coins
• Repeatable reward track that replaces Tomes with Transmutation Charges and rewards a Makeover Kit at the end
• Repeatable reward track that incorporates new skins exclusively for PvP

Rising Dusk.2408:

Anyway, these are some reward tracks that I want:

• Repeatable reward track that rewards Black Lion Keys and Mystic Coins
• Repeatable reward track that replaces Tomes with Transmutation Charges and rewards a Makeover Kit at the end
• Repeatable reward track that incorporates new skins exclusively for PvP

They all sound good to me, it would be nice to have this kind of variety, I wonder if we will ever get there.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

There’s three whole sets of Glorious armor that can only be obtained in PVE, six if you count the Glorious Hero armor too. Three more if you count the legacy armor, though that is also in WvW.

And that’s leaving out the fact that it’s much easier to get dungeon skins (especially weapons) in PVP than it is by doing actual dungeons.

You can get all those by afk farming on rank farm maps without ever doing any actual “Player VERSUS Player” (Other than Glorious Hero). I would agree that PVP has some exclusive skins IF there was no way to progress PVP reward tracks in hot join and custom arena matches, but as you can, the only actual PVP exclusive reward in the game is the Ascension. You can get carried and cheese that too, but it’s much much harder.

Rising Dusk.2408:

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• Repeatable reward track that incorporates new skins exclusively for PvP

As long as this reward track can be progressed in custom arena and hot join maps, it won’t be an “exclusive” PVP skin. It’s pointless to call a reward PVP exclusive if it’s available through rank farm where no actual Player VERSUS Player is happening.

I think that a reward track with raid rewards could be something good as long as it was to be achieved by first defeating at least one boss of every raid wing.
Just a spontaneous thought of mine.

OriOri.8724:

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

You heard it here first: fighting a scripted enemy that always behaves in the same way is harder than fighting an actual player opponent.
Also, filling a reward track is the same as getting something handed to you and requires no effort whatsoever.

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Because that worked fine for dungeon rewards too. And HoT area rewards. And core PvE zone drops. In fact, no reward track contains PvE rewards at all.
…oh wait.

Astralporing.1957:

Also, filling a reward track is the same as getting something handed to you and requires no effort whatsoever.

That’s what filling a pvp reward track actually is for many players. Now if they remove all kind of reward track progress from custom arenas then it won’t be like that anymore. Or at the very least make some reward tracks (the most rewarding ones) progress only in ranked play. As long as progress can be made in custom arenas then it’s the same as getting something handed to you and requires no effort whatsoever. It doesn’t even involve fighting other players, which is what the 2 P in PVP stand for.

You sure are mad about people cooperating for their collective benefit in daily rooms.

Did you try to troll one and get wrecked?

Hyper Cutter.9376:

You sure are mad about people cooperating for their collective benefit in daily rooms.

From the wiki:
Player versus Player (PvP) is a game mode where a player participates in competitive gaming against other players, as opposed to co-operative Player versus Environment.

Daily rooms are co-operative by nature, you said it is about people cooperating for their collective benefit, so they aren’t a form of PvP, therefore they shouldn’t give PvP rewards.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

You sure are mad about people cooperating for their collective benefit in daily rooms.

Did you try to troll one and get wrecked?

This is not the intended effect of dailies. As a matter of fact, when people attempted to do this in the past (to gain rank points), it was admonished by A-Net.

Astralporing.1957:

OriOri.8724:

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

You heard it here first: fighting a scripted enemy that always behaves in the same way is harder than fighting an actual player opponent.
Also, filling a reward track is the same as getting something handed to you and requires no effort whatsoever.

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Because that worked fine for dungeon rewards too. And HoT area rewards. And core PvE zone drops. In fact, no reward track contains PvE rewards at all.
…oh wait.

You can farm reward tracks in PvP in a trivial manner, you always advance on them, even if you don’t get a single kill in the entire game. Not to mention that by far most players suck kitten in PvP. When 3 or 4 people on the same team run towards home at the same time and cap it together I don’t know how you can say that killing them takes more skill than clearing a raid. At least you have to play well in raids to even have a chance at the rewards, which you don’t have to do in PvP. Its easy to farm the reward tracks in raids.

Answer me this though. If top tier PvE rewards (raid rewards) should be available through PvP reward tracks, then why shouldn’t top tier PvP rewards also be available through easily farmable PvE content? Stuff like the Ascension, glorious armor, llama minis etc… Not every reward needs to be in every game mode, and raid rewards need to stay where they are. People put in a lot of effort to learn those fights and clear them every week in order to get those rewards, they deserve to keep those rewards exclusive to players who put in a similar level of commitment towards teh content

OriOri.8724:

Astralporing.1957:

OriOri.8724:

You want raid rewards without doing raids? If you want those trophys then put in the work to kill the raid bosses, they shouldn’t just be handed to you because you don’t like to PvE

You heard it here first: fighting a scripted enemy that always behaves in the same way is harder than fighting an actual player opponent.
Also, filling a reward track is the same as getting something handed to you and requires no effort whatsoever.

OriOri.8724:

kdaddy.5431:

Please give 1 real reason WvW and PvP shouldnt get these reward tracks when Anet does everything possible to make WvW and PvP easier for the casual PvE players.

1 reason – those are raid rewards.

Because that worked fine for dungeon rewards too. And HoT area rewards. And core PvE zone drops. In fact, no reward track contains PvE rewards at all.
…oh wait.

You can farm reward tracks in PvP in a trivial manner, you always advance on them, even if you don’t get a single kill in the entire game. Not to mention that by far most players suck kitten in PvP. When 3 or 4 people on the same team run towards home at the same time and cap it together I don’t know how you can say that killing them takes more skill than clearing a raid. At least you have to play well in raids to even have a chance at the rewards, which you don’t have to do in PvP. Its easy to farm the reward tracks in raids.

Answer me this though. If top tier PvE rewards (raid rewards) should be available through PvP reward tracks, then why shouldn’t top tier PvP rewards also be available through easily farmable PvE content? Stuff like the Ascension, glorious armor, llama minis etc… Not every reward needs to be in every game mode, and raid rewards need to stay where they are. People put in a lot of effort to learn those fights and clear them every week in order to get those rewards, they deserve to keep those rewards exclusive to players who put in a similar level of commitment towards teh content

Ill try and answer it.

I won 3-4 mini llamas from 2 past TOL tournaments and AG games.

If you were to get out of amber in a PvP season you could get a mini llama. You didnt have to be good, to didnt have to practice with a team, or get in coms to come up with a strategy or team comp. Simply come into PvP and get to Emerald ranking.

Which brings me to Match Making and ranks. Many players such as myself have taken screen shots. Some have posted videos of really bad players making it to diamond/legendary. Ive ran into players who didnt know about revs enchanting daggers when a warrior pops endure the pain or simply didnt know the class very well and said stuff like DH hard counter revs which is not true.

These players got to make the legendary PvP back piece. They did not earn it with skill but with time. It has been the complaint of many PvP players that these players shouldnt get the rewards since they are undeserving. You are saying the same about raid rewards. You talk about time and effort spent, yet you could say the same thing for top end players. They have not been given there just due in this game as it has been catered for the PvE player.

Which brings me to everything ive said. PvE players very easily could of gotten all the PvP rewards in the season by simply playing the ranked season.

I have pointed out that i have done raids and completed the wings. I have UNLOCKED the necessary requirements to have a raid reward track. You have said earlier that there PvE tracks you had to unlock by doing PvE.

If there was any need to cry for how bad things have gotten. WvW wins with PvP coming in a close 2nd. Literally everything Anet has done to PvP is cater to the casual PvE player who wanted AP or finishers they would not have gotten since it would of taken 5k+ games to get.

PvP is simply asking for the same thing PvE players are. If i do the raids to unlock a track why cant i have it when you have given everything PvP players have to PvE players?