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Posted by: alofear.9637

alofear.9637

So I play a decap Engi and I feel like I’m getting the wrong end of a stick. Sure holding and claiming a point does get me a little bit of points. Sometimes I can even get points for taking down players. But most of the time I’m maybe 4th or 5th place after we win.
With easily 50 points less than the person above me.

I was wondering if there was ever any mention of making the points “tic” every 1min-2min that would reward a player standing on point. Not something crazy rewarding, but just 5pts or something for defending a point.

Or reward players for how long they are alive (I rarely die, unless skyhammer.. darn 6s fears!)

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Posted by: Dancing Face.4695

Dancing Face.4695

no. the idea of sigtimg in a point and waiting the game happen and in the same time scoring is wrong. defendimg a point doesn’t mean you have to fall aslwep there and not caring whar’s bappening out there. this would promote a bad behavior

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Posted by: alofear.9637

alofear.9637

I understand the whole afk defending.. but what I’m talking about is defending a point from the other team.

Most of the time I claim the point on the other side of the map, and defend it from 1-3 players wacking on me.

How is this supporting bad behavior, I feel like if there is an enemy on a point getting an extra 5pts every 1min I would want to focus and get them off of it.

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

it does suck that the people carrying a team are the ones who get rewarded the least, but its hard to think of a solution.

if they added points for the amount of time spent on a node that would reward the mid zerkers even more.

i can’t think of a solution to reward a capper/defended without further rewarding the zerkers.

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Posted by: alofear.9637

alofear.9637

I agree, I feel like then we would see an even larger rise to decap builds.

What if they added a “king of the hill” type point system. So the longer your alive/rampage you get more bonus points added to your name. The points are not for you, but the enemy team for taking you down. This would help teams focus on the players decaping or rampaging.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

So I play a decap Engi and I feel like I’m getting the wrong end of a stick. Sure holding and claiming a point does get me a little bit of points. Sometimes I can even get points for taking down players. But most of the time I’m maybe 4th or 5th place after we win.
With easily 50 points less than the person above me.

I was wondering if there was ever any mention of making the points “tic” every 1min-2min that would reward a player standing on point. Not something crazy rewarding, but just 5pts or something for defending a point.

Or reward players for how long they are alive (I rarely die, unless skyhammer.. darn 6s fears!)

You shouldnt be rewarded for standing still on a point the entire match playing your asuran decap engi.

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Posted by: Klocknov.8219

Klocknov.8219

I could care less either way, if I make top or bottom of the team. If I win I am happy with that alone and being as it avgs the points out and dishes them evenly it doesn’t matter in the end.The game shouldn’t be about who is top of the team it should be about which team lost and won. this is tPvP not 1v1 arenas.

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Posted by: sternenstaub.8763

sternenstaub.8763

You watch how many points people get in the game?
And worse, you care?

To Anet:
Just take those contribution points out of the game finally, before more noobs people think it means anything. Or worse, want to become 1st in that list!

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Posted by: Chase.8415

Chase.8415

Better solution is just to remove the scoreboard entirely as people consistently think it matters on these forums even though everyone is rewarded the same.

Who are you trying to impress? Hotjoin people? Seriously, no one cares those hotjoin people are not going to remember your name so why get upset that you’re low on the scoreboard?

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Posted by: alofear.9637

alofear.9637

Better solution is just to remove the scoreboard entirely as people consistently think it matters on these forums even though everyone is rewarded the same.

Who are you trying to impress? Hotjoin people? Seriously, no one cares those hotjoin people are not going to remember your name so why get upset that you’re low on the scoreboard?

I thought that scoreboard rating was also the bonus of points rewarded to you for ranking/sPvP reward track. Or am I missing something.

I agree that the scoreboard could use some work, I would prefer to see who did the most damage/healing/death/kill count.

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Posted by: alofear.9637

alofear.9637

Maybe I should of done a wiki search before I jumped to thinking rank was important.. I guess I learn something new everyday

I really thought that rank was the amount of points you where reward extra to the win.

(FROM WIKI)
Match rewards
Rewards from structured PvP matches include rank points and coin. Players participating in a match for less than 7 minutes receive reduced rewards.

Arena~Rank points~Coin
Lose reward
Custom Arena~200 Rank Point~10 Silver coin
Solo Arena~300 Rank Point~12 Silver coin 50 Copper coin
Team Arena~500 Rank Point~15 Silver coin
Win reward
Custom Arena~500 Rank Point~15 Silver coin
Solo Arena~1000 Rank Point~25 Silver coin
Team Arena~1500 Rank Point~30 Silver coin

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Posted by: Wyvy.7430

Wyvy.7430

If you keep winning you are doing something good

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Posted by: Chase.8415

Chase.8415

Better solution is just to remove the scoreboard entirely as people consistently think it matters on these forums even though everyone is rewarded the same.

Who are you trying to impress? Hotjoin people? Seriously, no one cares those hotjoin people are not going to remember your name so why get upset that you’re low on the scoreboard?

I thought that scoreboard rating was also the bonus of points rewarded to you for ranking/sPvP reward track. Or am I missing something.

I agree that the scoreboard could use some work, I would prefer to see who did the most damage/healing/death/kill count.

Nope, everyone is rewarded the same. The only difference is the small rank point bonus at the end of the match, that does not increase the progression of the reward track in any way.

Making it show kills would only promote elitism and make the scoreboard worse because people will just focus on the scoreboard and end up insulting their teammates for being ‘useless’ for having a worse score.

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Posted by: alofear.9637

alofear.9637

Better solution is just to remove the scoreboard entirely as people consistently think it matters on these forums even though everyone is rewarded the same.

Who are you trying to impress? Hotjoin people? Seriously, no one cares those hotjoin people are not going to remember your name so why get upset that you’re low on the scoreboard?

I thought that scoreboard rating was also the bonus of points rewarded to you for ranking/sPvP reward track. Or am I missing something.

I agree that the scoreboard could use some work, I would prefer to see who did the most damage/healing/death/kill count.

Nope, everyone is rewarded the same. The only difference is the small rank point bonus at the end of the match, that does not increase the progression of the reward track in any way.

Making it show kills would only promote elitism and make the scoreboard worse because people will just focus on the scoreboard and end up insulting their teammates for being ‘useless’ for having a worse score.

Yeah, I guess that is a good point. I’m more interested in my stats i guess

Thank you for “correcting” me on the ranking/points it actually makes me feel better with my build, since I know holding a point actually leads to wining more points for everyone.

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Posted by: Klocknov.8219

Klocknov.8219

If you want stats then maybe how about asking for a stats tab in the PvP menu past the basics. Have it called advanced statistics and it shows kills, deaths, treb hits, or whatever other stat and maybe even your top score and avg score. There you go! Does not need to be in match, since you want to focus on winning as a team and not turning the game in to LoL and seeing who got the most kills.

EDIT:PS: I am sorry if I sound crude I am a on a long day and can’t really figure out how to make that sound nicer.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

I thought the end-game points don’t contribute to rank any longer, they just contribute to a few of the achievements as well as possibly determine a tie-breaker??

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Posted by: Zach.3264

Zach.3264

Points don’t mean anything in PvP.
At the moment, they only encourage people to play badly.

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Posted by: Master of Timespace.2548

Master of Timespace.2548

Personal score should be removed from solo and teamq. It is pointless and misleading for rookies.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

it should be removed if its not changed. i’d like to see it change and give some sort of accurate measure of contribution.

like getting 0.5 points per second in combat on a point that doesn’t belong to the enemy or something like that. wouldn’t want to reward afk on a point but actively fighting to defend/contest it yea.

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Posted by: XacTactX.6709

XacTactX.6709

You are not getting the short end of the stick, everyone on your team will receive the same reward when you win/lose, personal score can only be used to compare people playing the same role, DPS cannot be compared to bunker. Before the 10/29/13 update it was a good complaint that zerkers and roamers get more rank/glory than bunkers, however it is not a problem now.

Anet likely didn’t want to remove the armor stats entirely because…well,
we’ve all seen what happens in games where there’s no disadvantage to taking your pants off.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

Paulytnz.7619

no. the idea of sigtimg in a point and waiting the game happen and in the same time scoring is wrong. defendimg a point doesn’t mean you have to fall aslwep there and not caring whar’s bappening out there. this would promote a bad behavior

Riiiiiiight that’s why it’s a capture/holding game and not a straight up deathmatch/team death match right?

The system is semi flawed just like the wvw system is. It is about time they started to address these problems.

Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?

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Posted by: Anhomedog.7968

Anhomedog.7968

Well, at least in my opinion, staying on a point is more beneficial in the long run, in most cases, than if you ran around. Im saying this of course because if you win you get the 500, 1000, or 1500 point bonus reward for winning, or you can run around and get 200 points and possibly win, but more or less probably lose. Now what you can do…Protect home and run back and forth when needed to mid, and then back to home, so maybe you can get more action that way?

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