Guild Wars 2

I get the same kind of blame tossed at me by PUGs during solo ques. It would seem that many people nowadays just don’t understand conquest and/or why they are losing a match. They like to blame whoever isn’t at mid when the big wipe happens, which in reality the dummies need to learn how to fallback & peel before that happens. This sums up your situation:

• They are losing the mid fight in even numbered matches.
• They are losing the home fight in even numbered defenses.
• They are poor and combat and are making it worse by ant trailing in to the points rather than regrouping. What they should have done is regroup and all go by home, to retake home before pushing mid, hoping to catch an enemy or two on stagger while doing this and get an advantage pushing mid. Maybe even you can hold 1v1 far to also help pull from mid for taking or if you get snowballed, portal out and regroup with them for an advantage mid fight. Regardless… You holding far, you’re doing your job as long as you aren’t just sitting there doing nothing You have to rotate back and forth to mid, to assist the mid fight. If you are sitting on a point and doing nothing for a substantial amount of time, it means that your team is in a disadvantage 4v5 on the other two nodes and that’s why they aren’t able to win. If you can’t hold two nodes, you won’t win the match. It doesn’t matter if you won two 1v1s at far. If you were 6 minutes in to the match and have only spent 2 minutes 1v1ing but 4 minutes standing on the point doing nothing, waiting for more people to come to far, this means that you are just as guilty for bad play as your team mates losing at mid and home.
• Someone blaming you that you left far is blatant ignorance and lack of experience playing conquest. If he can’t understand the point that I posted above, he should find a different game to play. Even if you held far the entire game, your team is still going to lose if they cannot take mid or home. You need two nodes to win conquest so of course you must leave the far point to try and assist them in taking a second node. It was the only chance you had of winning the game.

Ok wow you got me to post here again. Maybe you will read it now:

First of all, you should edit the name out I remember that people say that it will be removed otherwise.

So first of all, me (the other mesmer) dont went close again after loosing it against the Warrior. (Thats the only blame i take on my side. But everyone fails from time to time.)

We went mid and We fought there and lost it. Why? because of your far-play we played there 4vs5.

The Mid-Fight:

Our Team: Necro, Ranger, Bunker Mes, Engi.
Their Team: Ele, Engi, Warrior, Necro, Mes (I dont know if the last one was a mesmer, but I think so)

After the first died (the nek), one of them went far (to fight you, where you still stayed without bothering we got bashed on mid) and we were still 3vs4. After seeing the second one dropping, I went away to recap close (freecap) and lost it there against the Engi and Warrior insta following me. So we lost Close again, mid also, you won your far fight and stayed there (with a useless portal in your skill bar) After the regroup we went over close to mid where you joined but immediatly left after noticing one of them went to YOUR far spot. We got close at this time.

So we lost again the mid fight because we cant kill anyone there. How should we, the necro was too focused to stay alive after they focused him, the ranger and me were trying to keep him and the engi alive, after the engi went yolo and tried to kill one of them… After the second and third got killed (I dont saw you, so I though you were dead or fighting on far, which was already decapped..) I went close, following the warrior who left mid because they won the midfight and I was the only one who still was alive. So why was I going close and not far to you? Because the necro already blamed you in mapchat and I hope you would listen, and our teammates would have the faster way to our close spot, also I wouldnt fail a second time against him and could hold him there, getting still points till my teammates show up and to kill him and going than with 5 people on the mid fight. Well, their Engi showed up, I was again fighting again 2vs1, got killed before our teammates showed up. (keep in mind i escaped midfight 1vs3 to follow the warrior) After that, it was like 300 to 70, you lost far too because they bashed you there. Three points for them, none for us. They went lord. Two of us (including me, went afk, trying to tell you what you did wrong. Then you whispered me, i tried to tell you again.

Then, I advised you to the forum, not that people can laugh at you (have the screenshot) in the hope the people here can explain to you why you should not go far in soloq with a portal on foefire in ruby/diamond, and trying to tell you that we needed your dmg there since we are too sustain and cant kill anything without a dmg specced mesmer like you.
Yea, maybe you will notice it now. Your team tried to tell you, I tried to tell you. No offense here, we just wanted to show you how bad the decision was, to go far.
But like I said, everyone fails from time to time in a game.

Tyga.7056:

Man did you play a different game? I killed the Necro on far and capped it and I couldn’t went mid, because everybody were dead… Nobody of the mid players came on far the guy I killed came back. As you can see that’s what I meant… You guys couldnt get close and mid and kept dying. I tried to push mid for support with my portal, but we got outnumbered so I ported back on far, cause the necro came back to cap it. I was half life when I arrived on this far-point and killed the necro…
The opening was the same from them the warrior pushed at your close and killed you fact. 1-3-1 and we lost 2 notes. It’s even ridicolous to play bunker mesmer, because it’s obviously useless in 1 vs 1. So why didn’t you pushed mid for support and smb else close. I said from the beginning that I’ll push far, cause it always worked the last games. Especially on forefire where people can very easily move from point to point. You made the wrong move not me. And blaming me for this lost is not right either. We had a bad matchup from the beginning on, cause they were advantaged with an ele. If I would’ve pushed mid in the beginnig It wouldn’t have made a difference, because you died on close and somebody would’ve needed to go….

I killed the Necro on far and capped it and I couldn’t went mid, because everybody were dead… Nobody of the mid players came on far the guy I killed came back.

- Read what I just wrote.

You guys couldnt get close and mid and kept dying. I tried to push mid for support with my portal, but we got outnumbered so I ported back on far, cause the necro came back to cap it. I was half life when I arrived on this far-point and killed the necro…

- Yea, we had Far and Close. The Necro went to far to decap it, we were 4vs5. You decided to go far leaving us 4vs4 there. Got killed again. And why not, without enough dmg output, since you went away.

The opening was the same from them the warrior pushed at your close and killed you fact. 1-3-1 and we lost 2 notes.

- I already told you that i failed there. But everyone fails at time to time in PvP.

It’s even ridicolous to play bunker mesmer, because it’s obviously useless in 1 vs 1

- Yup, thats why I wanted to go mid with this build and not close, you could go close and leave a portal there joining us to win the midfight…

You made the wrong move not me. And blaming me for this lost is not right either. We had a bad matchup from the beginning on, cause they were advantaged with an ele. If I would’ve pushed mid in the beginnig It wouldn’t have made a difference, because you died on close and somebody would’ve needed to go..

- So why exactly is the team blaming you and not me? And why did you blame the necro in the first place and not at the start me, because I said we need TWO POINTS TO WIN A GAME and that you should use your brain? Where I got the response, if far ticks differently.. lol. [Edit: And if you would have listen, you would go close, winning the fight, leaving a portal there, join us on midfight since we can take them that long, 4vs5 is an advantage, then killing them and rotate the game out.
THIS was what the necro, ranger and me wanted to tell you in the first place after going afk, since you gave not a single f*** when telling you to leave far to help us.

The saga of mandj and tyga: kittenposts meant for mapchat elevated to forums

edit: he deleted his posts… lul

Why do you make it such a big deal? It’s just a game. just move on. I mean it doesn’t cost you anything. It’s not a competitive game that will give you money, It’s just a “casual” game.

Although I personally like this kind of thread bcoz it gives me something to read during pvp queue. PvP drama is sometimes so funny and entertaining.

Capping far is ALWAYS a mistake. ALWAYS. Even when you are spawn camping, they can still surprise kill you and it happens.

^lol

Fast decap with teef or mes so they spend more time capping back isnt tho.

Is it a mistake when all 5 of their players are standing on your home?

It is. I have played a game where we roflstomped some noobz and camped their home, got careless and sneeky noobz killed them. Patiently holding mid instead is a much wiser strategy.

^made me laugh out loud. My wife is looking at me funny, now…