Guild Wars 2

Good riddance. I look forward to what the next meta will bring. As an ele main, I think ele will go back to being a more damage oriented bruiser, while fresh air is very likely to make a comeback (yay!). What are your thoughts on other likely builds for the other classes? Discuss!

Edit: That is not to say that bunker tempests will not be a thing but as their support capabilities will be reduced due to diamond skin change (we can’t trait aura share anymore) and aura duration change, along with the removal of cele amulet (although the new amulets look interesting), they are likely to decline in popularity.

Josh Davis.6015:

We’re also removing the following amulets:

• Celestial

Rip…
Ele = new teef

I think bunker’s will still have a place and still be very potent, but we won’t have people slapping each other pointlessly for 3/4s of a match, essentially making it a 4v4 with only 2 points. But too many bunks will definitely be a liability as it should be.

Rune of Durability being removed excites me a lot, the amount of free boons it gave out was excessive, and provided a lot of “cover” for other boons when talking about removal.

As a necro main, I’m excited for boon removal becoming more potent as a class theme, and making them more about consistent boon removal is a good reflection on the state of the game, how many classes have procs for more boons now.

I think Mercenary’s amulet is going to be very scary, offering a great proportion of damage and survivability.

RaGe.9834:

Ele = new teef

I’d say new warrior. Thief was semi-viable.

That being said, with the come back of our necro overlords and the supression of celestial and sentinel amulets, teams could need additional condition removal, so we might see eles with healing power amulets acting as “bunkers” in the new meta. Well see.

My prediction for the new meta:

1.Paladin staff/shortbow thieves or marauder if toughness has poor scaling. Ferocity can come from runes and traits as usual.

2.Mender staff/longbow druid.

3.Mercenary reaper.

4.Vigilant or paladin mesmer for the boon upkeep and while they’ll be hit hard with a nerf bat should still be quite viable due to their portal, alacrity, moa form, and being able to reset cooldowns.

5.Sage Ventari/Mallyx revenant with staff + sword and shield or sword and sword as an alternative for pulling stompers, ressers, and interrupts.

I think this is gonna be the most interesting meta ever existed… i can already see many builds become viavble again, and new ones that might come in. Imo, we’re gonna experience the meaning of build diversity (to some extent) for the 1st time, but maybe i’m too optimistic

Ha. The tempest changes are not a big deal even with cele gone. All it means is my burns do less damage but I’ll have more power. Burns weren’t a big part of my damage to begin with. It’s not a damage spec to begin with anyway. I don’t see much overall change for tempest. You’ll see more fresh air tempests is all. Perhaps go air bunker rather than fire bunker.

Can see there being 2 to 3 bunkers per team to hold points. But any more sounds like a liability due to the sustain nerf + necro boon hate 2.0.

I tend to find d/p thief counters necros, so stacking more than 2 is dangerous. Equally, I can still see dps engineers and guards countering thieves. Should be a nice mix up of the meta.

Sorel.4870:

RaGe.9834:

Ele = new teef

I’d say new warrior. Thief was semi-viable.

That being said, with the come back of our necro overlords and the supression of celestial and sentinel amulets, teams could need additional condition removal, so we might see eles with healing power amulets acting as “bunkers” in the new meta. Well see.

A lot of you complain too much. Ele will be reeeeally good, especially with some of the new amulets.

Ele is going to be trash. Fine for solo queue, but it won’t touch the meta. Fresh air will be their only viable spec, and Thief/Rev will both be considerably better at the same job.

Tempest will definitely not be as strong as before, due to the reduction of support indirectly caused by the diamond skin change and the removal of cele amulet, but I doubt tempest/ele will be as bad as people envision it to be. But we’ll see, personally I’m looking forward to when the balance patch hits so I can try out some of my theorycrafted builds in pvp.

ReaperJr.5967:

Good riddance. I look forward to what the next meta will bring. As an ele main, I think ele will go back to being a more damage oriented bruiser, while fresh air is very likely to make a comeback (yay!). What are your thoughts on other likely builds for the other classes? Discuss!

Edit: That is not to say that bunker tempests will not be a thing but as their support capabilities will be reduced due to diamond skin change (we can’t trait aura share anymore) and aura duration change, along with the removal of cele amulet (although the new amulets look interesting), they are likely to decline in popularity.

The next meta is condition meta again so really….? One meta will get replaced by another it never ends as long as class stacking exists.