Guild Wars 2

Diamond Skin Dire Tempest was the only thing that prevented Signet Condi Reaper from becoming meta.

Now with the new coming DS not preventing condi application, meaning a condi burst can now work against them, there will be nothing to stop the Signet Condi Reaper from marching on into META realm.

And where it s the problem?

For the theory is right, but if you think about the real situation of the elementarist, it’s a Buff more than a nerf.
In 1vs1 the necro will be the only condition class that will be able to kill a tempest, and not so easy as you think.

Fo example: I corrupt all your boons (3 signet = 6 boons corrupted) and start to spam conditions on you. Thinking to what boon become as converted, in more or less 7 seconds from the start of the boon corruption activation the ele is already without any condition and your “burst” is gone before you was able to inflict a real damage (why the necro don’t have any real condition burst, expecially if you clean conditions all the time, making scepter 3 weak).

Then if you start to AA with scepter the result is that: your bleed last for 1 secon and then is cleaned. Yeah, what a big damage! At maximum 2 stack of bleed with 1/0.5 sec of duration!

If the tempest is lucky every sec will clean your spam of poison, burn, bleed or what condition he want.

JUST WITH THE PASSIVE DIAMOND SKIN.

Then Have I to remember that the Ele have a Large Amount of CONDI CLEAN Skills?

The Cantrip, Regeneration SPAM with Auras and skills (that remove condis from you when affect you or an Ally with regeneration), Shouts (use the rune of soldier and GG), Dodge (traited).

Seriously, I don’t see where the hell did you see a Nerf!
and it is active from 75% hp!!!

Seriously: the Tempest will still be OP like it is, only maskered as a “normal” class.

Yes, is more easy to kill him if under a Focus, but is it bad? Is it Wrong?
Actually if 3 condition classes focus a Tempest they need 10-20 seconds only to take the tempest down that kitten 90% hp! And then they can start to kill him.

And at the end… What the hell is the problem if Necromancer become Meta?
Why the hell everyone scream around “don’t make the Necro a Meta Class!”???

The ele is holding his kitten throne on the meta from more than 2 years, what’s the problem if another class, a class that had his meta only for 1 month after condition rework (before everyone discovered that there’s classes that can inflict better condition damage than the necro, at this time -before corrupting signets-) and for 1 or 2 months after the Traits Rework (and Only why was the Only Class able to Kill Elementarists!).

Seriously… take it easy.
You’ll see a good buff for 1vs1 fights and a little nerf for Team Fights situations.
That will only make the ele a better class.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Diamond Skin Dire Tempest was the only thing that prevented Signet Condi Reaper from becoming meta.

Now with the new coming DS not preventing condi application, meaning a condi burst can now work against them, there will be nothing to stop the Signet Condi Reaper from marching on into META realm.

Actually the Revenant was another, but they nerfed that class twice. So ….. yeah it will be quite entertaining to watch 4 man team necros.

GW2 finally achieved a zombie version of their game.

Ye necros have kittened mobility..super defensive skills,they don t die if 2,3 players focus them I expect that people will run 5/5 necro after this patch and nec will be the only class in the meta.Will be even better than 4 ele 1 teef meta that we had.

Lol.

Look at all the people come to argue that there’s nothing wrong with necro/reaper being meta, when all the OP did was say it would be.

I guess he must have made it clear he was against it ingame or in PM?

vlad.4871:

Ye necros have kittened mobility..super defensive skills,they don t die if 2,3 players focus them I expect that people will run 5/5 necro after this patch and nec will be the only class in the meta.Will be even better than 4 ele 1 teef meta that we had.

And the Troll King Title is for…….
Vlad!

Really well played, guy!

All the way it will be OP?
Seriously I don’t… ah! You’re talking about that scepter “buff”!
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You’re a funny guy ^^

Seriously… how ofter do you use a entire AA chain on a Necromancer? (or eny other class)

Only when you don’t have any other better skill. And there’s better skills than AA with a scepter, still if it corrupt a boon.
It is a buff, yes, but a little one, not a big one.

With all the boom spam we don’t even need a more (and frequently unused) boon remove.

Ic also can’t used when needed!

You need 1.5 sec to corrupot a boon. If you need to block a stomp converting stability you can’t do it with the scepter AA.

It’s a random casual boon corrupter, nothing more.

Impact.2780:

Lol.

Look at all the people come to argue that there’s nothing wrong with necro/reaper being meta, when all the OP did was say it would be.

I guess he must have made it clear he was against it ingame or in PM?

i wanted to point this out too…but oh well…i think necros have the right to be defensive.
we’re about to become…META

Does any esport hipster play necro? It will problem if necro is meta, but necro players doesn’t have any fanboys.

Silv.9207:

For the theory is right, but if you think about the real situation of the elementarist, it’s a Buff more than a nerf.
In 1vs1 the necro will be the only condition class that will be able to kill a tempest, and not so easy as you think.

Fo example: I corrupt all your boons (3 signet = 6 boons corrupted) and start to spam conditions on you. Thinking to what boon become as converted, in more or less 7 seconds from the start of the boon corruption activation the ele is already without any condition and your “burst” is gone before you was able to inflict a real damage (why the necro don’t have any real condition burst, expecially if you clean conditions all the time, making scepter 3 weak).

Then if you start to AA with scepter the result is that: your bleed last for 1 secon and then is cleaned. Yeah, what a big damage! At maximum 2 stack of bleed with 1/0.5 sec of duration!

If the tempest is lucky every sec will clean your spam of poison, burn, bleed or what condition he want.

I think you miss the true dangers in the DS ele vs Signet reaper. The real dangers are plague signet, locust swarm, every fear , exucutioner scythe, deaths charge and to an extent soul spiral. Plague signet does not only convert 2 boons it applies up to 5 conditions as well and is instant so can be placed to overload the ele, locust swarm applies a cripple every second for 10 seconds so you cleanse it, it is back, executioners scythe has pulsing chill, death charge does apply a blind but more importantly gives a frost aura if used in an ice field, every chill applies vulnerability which will either cover the chill or give some extra damage, every fear will not only cc the ele it will also apply chill (which applies vulnerability) and soul spiral gives 2 seconds of lowered healing due to the poison reaplication. These things will really strain the power of DS due their fast reapplication rate or condi overload. Even if you don’t take high damage the ele will be really hindered especially if a chill lingers.

So happy that you’re a clairvoyant.

Lets complain about something before it’s even in the game.

OMG the ele will be affected by conditions!!!!1!1!1!1!!!!!1111

Yes, the necro can apply different conditions.
But no one use focus then spinal is only as passive, you can’t control it and can hit still if the enemy don’t have any boon, reducing it’s damage to a very low amount. Anyway isn’t a problem because Spinal Remove boons, don’t convert them. At maximum inflict chill. And I can’t use focus and warhorn at the same time (just to say).
And no one use focus in spvp why is bad (just to say)

Plague inflist up to 5 conditions on you to the enemy, but you need to have conditions to send. And counting that the necro have only 2 good skills of condition damage, Plague reflecting back the enemy conditions is basicly one of the main condi dps of the necro (just to say).

And the Tempest have a Lot of condition removal skill, in active and passive ways (expecially tempest why spam auras → auras give regeneration → regeneration clean conditions).

Yes, is a nerf, but if you dodge, blind, mist, evade, move avay with your really good movement while casting a skill (RS5 for example), reapply your permanent swiftness to make easy stay in range while the reaper is in RS, stun, knock back (and more and more and more), then, i can say to you that will be really really hard to spam all that conditions on you.

The life of the ele will be harder? YES! (Finally!).

But with that change (why isn’t a nerf, only a change) the ele will be affected by conditions. Finally i will be able to fear a ele, immobilize it (still if only for 1 sec it can help), and use all my skills on you why you’re susceptible to conditions.

There’s not a single class that have a condi removal good as that new DS. No One.

You will obtain 1 condi cleaned every 1 second and you cry?