Guild Wars 2

I was told that a duo queue is rated according to their geometric mean. However I’m curious whether there’s any restrictions in duo queuing; could a top 250 player duo with a bronze player?

Also, how would this affect rating gains/losses for each player? I’m assuming some form of ‘less rating gain + more rating loss for the higher rated player, more rating gain + less rating loss for the lower rated player.’

Would be great to hear Evan chime in on this before s5 starts. Thanks!

Good question, i would be amazed if arena net overlook the amber fishing kitten again.

Bumping this because still no information about duo queueing restrictions (or lack thereof).

velvetblanc.9140:

I was told that a duo queue is rated according to their geometric mean. However I’m curious whether there’s any restrictions in duo queuing; could a top 250 player duo with a bronze player?

Also, how would this affect rating gains/losses for each player? I’m assuming some form of ‘less rating gain + more rating loss for the higher rated player, more rating gain + less rating loss for the lower rated player.’

Would be great to hear Evan chime in on this before s5 starts. Thanks!

I would imagine that in a duo both players would have there rating effected as the highest player would. Totally takes care of any of these problems.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Low rated party member would start climbing quickly in rating, or high rated party member would start dropping quickly.

Enemies would update normally against the other team’s average.

But if you’re averaging doesn’t this bring back the “shopping for ambers” problem?

Some elaboration is required

Evan Lesh.3295:

Low rated party member would start climbing quickly in rating, or high rated party member would start dropping quickly.

Enemies would update normally against the other team’s average.

Isnt this the whole amber fishing thing again?

Shouldn’t the lower rated player have his rating (modified) higher for the purposes of matchmaking?

Evan Lesh.3295:

Crinn.7864:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Low rated party member would start climbing quickly in rating, or high rated party member would start dropping quickly.

Enemies would update normally against the other team’s average.

But if you’re averaging doesn’t this bring back the “shopping for ambers” problem?

You can only do it with one person because of duo queue, so you can’t get an entire premade outclassing another team. Also pips didn’t have backwards progression like ratings do, which auto-corrects the problem.

Couldn’t that still be gamed by simply getting a new “amber” every so often, thus eliminating the issue of the amber’s rating rapidly increasing, thus leaving the higher player’s decreasing mmr as the only pushback? It may not work long term but it could still provide a temporary manner to game the system.

Hey Evan, thanks for the replies. I’m still curious about if a legendary player could duo queue with a player in their placements. How would the system calculate this?

Evan Lesh.3295:

velvetblanc.9140:

Hey Evan, thanks for the replies. I’m still curious about if a legendary player could duo queue with a player in their placements. How would the system calculate this?

Everyone still has a rating during placement, we just don’t show it so people don’t freak out when it jumps all over the place.

I am loving your honesty right now

Evan Lesh.3295:

velvetblanc.9140:

Hey Evan, thanks for the replies. I’m still curious about if a legendary player could duo queue with a player in their placements. How would the system calculate this?

Everyone still has a rating during placement, we just don’t show it so people don’t freak out when it jumps all over the place.

This is awesome and thank you for being so transparent and open with how the new system works.

I’m not concerned about amber fishing. The ability to fall off in rank with duo queue as cap keeps this from being a huge concern as you mentioned (though it can indeed occur with rare circumstances.)

I’ve not been so psyched for a pvp season in a long long time. Thank you.