Guild Wars 2

I liked the way Season 4 was. Stronghold a part of the season but people could uncheck it if they wanted to. Just like we could uncheck Conquest.
People who only did Conquest moaned that Stronghold players could share a division or be in a higher division than them. One thing they said was that you could play a match and never encounter an enemy player, from experience that is rare.
I see removing it a effecting Stronghold players in a negative way rather than helping anyone. Conquest players could uncheck it and never play Stronghold. This is a big loss to Stronghold players and I don’t see how it benefits Conquest players other than a few who don’t like the idea of sharing a rank with players who got there through Stronghold, even though it doesn’t effect them and as both probably have each others arena mode unchecked will most likely never meet in a PvP match.

The people actually using the leaderboards…. no more easy wins for people

Stronghold and conquest are basically 2 different game modes. So it doesn’t make sense to make a single leaderboard/ranking for both. And because there are obviously not enough players who play stronghold, its not worth to make an additional league for stronghold only.

That is another thing. It gets referred to as easy wins, one side loses every match just like in Conquest. You go in, might be an easy win or you might get steam rolled, there is another team in the arena trying to win.
Maybe an additional league for Stronghold would be the answer. Might even draw people in to Stronghold who want to be high up in both leagues.

yeah let’s rank players on the same system and the same leaderboard and never have them actually play vs each other. Sick logic.

It’s Anet’s fault for making stronghold a game mode and then leaving it to rot. Remember the last new map that was deleted???

The easy solution was to just make it a hot join arena. I don’t know why they insist on deleting maps so often. The more variety the better for the community imo.

It’s still more than a hot join arena, it can be played as a rated, unranked match. Or were you talking about the Courtyard?

I suppose Stronghold hasn’t been touched for a while. No new maps added, the newest Mist Champion was Tybalt. Funny, on the Mist Champ selection screen you have an option to select offensive, defensive, specialist. Looked like it was originally intended to be full up.
Removing it from ranked though seems only to help the vanity of people who have it unchecked and cost more to people who want to do Stronghold. A Stronghold player gets into a higher division than a Conquest, no effect other than display yet some people moaned. If they didn’t like Stronghold they could uncheck it.
People call it an easy win, depends who you have on your team and how strong the enemy team is, just like Conquest. One team wins, the other loses. Every match there are 5 players who lose and 5 who win. I think with removing full team queuing if Stonghold was still there it would reduce the chance of “easy wins.” They could garentee themselves 4 other players before that had an idea of how the map works. Now there is a chance you will get players who spam door breakers but don’t kill the guards. I’ve had that recently, was solo queuing, was on defense at the time a couple of team mates spammed door breakers but left the guards untouched. Not even any archers so that if nobody defended at least the guards would go down.

You can still play stronghold, if you want to. But it has no place in ranked, because it would render the ranking system meaningless. The rating is there to show players how good they are compared to others and to give an incentive to become better. But how do you want to compare players of different game modes, that don’t even have to face each other? It would be like making a single ranking for tennis and golf.

I can’t recall a single stronghold game where I didn’t pvp during the match.

I would like SH added for variety but it’s no biggie to me but I find it strange that I’ve seen people mention that players don’t face off in SH’s. We must be playing completely different games.

I meant, conquest players don’t have to face stronghold players and vice versa.

TheMountain.6204:

I can’t recall a single stronghold game where I didn’t pvp during the match.

I would like SH added for variety but it’s no biggie to me but I find it strange that I’ve seen people mention that players don’t face off in SH’s. We must be playing completely different games.

I think it’s a myth Conquest players thought up. They know the objective is to kill the enemy lord. Don’t seem to take into account that there is an enemy team trying to kill their lord at the same time.

Stop ignoring my posts and making things up. Nobody said, stronghold players don’t play against other players.