Guild Wars 2

Unlike in other games, where you are tied to your character because you cannot reset, or start from max lvl with top tier items, the pvp in this game is always going to be bad.

Why might you ask? Because if there is a FOTM class that is just crazy good, I can simply roll one in about 1 minute and exponentially make the problem worse. (Warriors atm)

In WoW, I could not re-roll my lvl 70 because it would take too long, then I would have to grind some gear for him etc. In this game, there is no penalty to creating a new class.

When I say you can literally add fuel to the fire, I mean INSTANTLY.

I have never seen a game where FOTM classes are so rampant in the pvp scene before, but this is due to the nature of guild wars, and leads to the next fact

balance is even MORE critical in this game than others

Why might you ask? Because if classes are not balanced, then you are adding a finer fuel to the same fire we just spoke about. If classes were balanced in the first place, there would be no fire to add fuel to. Any imba issues are amplified when more people can easily jump to the class and create an even bigger fire…

Fix the balance, and you drastically fix this game. The game is extra leveraged right now, so if you fix the basics, the rest will fix itself.

It’s actually a good thing imo. Because then it becomes really obvious who the OP one is when any Joe Schmo can roll one and find out for themself in a minute. I’d rather it be this way tbh.

Then again, it’s kinda funny a mesmer make this topic because all the warriors say “any decent mesmer crush them in 1v1”, it’s probably their only counter right now.

It’s a bad thing. In the OPs scenario, you have to grind gear and spend many hours leveling to play the FOTM at the highest competitive level. In GW2 they are constantly chasing game balance due to the way ppl pile into a FOTM profession. In WoW if a class was some kittenty FOTM then ppl would counter it through trial and error, and the kittenty FOTM abuser would be in their own personal hell until balance swung another way.

This is how it was in gw1 and I’m very confident those “good ol days” should become gw2 pvp.

Plus in sc2 and lol people can reroll with no penalty so from an esport perspective, anet had it right.

I also don’t want to grind for me pvp.

0 Day pvp ready was what sold me on gw2…
and for all the things it did wrong, normalized pvp makes up for it in a big way.

TBQH, its not so much the issue of being able to instantly reroll.

Its the fact that one can instantly reroll and still perform 90% of what someone who has “mastered the class,” can do.

There needs to be a much wider gap between the skill floor and the skill ceiling of classes, and the way anet is going, they’re trying to make it so that the skill floor IS the skill ceiling for all the classes.

Excalibur.9748:

It’s actually a good thing imo. Because then it becomes really obvious who the OP one is when any Joe Schmo can roll one and find out for themself in a minute. I’d rather it be this way tbh.

Then again, it’s kinda funny a mesmer make this topic because all the warriors say “any decent mesmer crush them in 1v1”, it’s probably their only counter right now.

This is not a warrior rant, you are missing the picture. Yes, I crush warriors 1v1, but that is besides the point. Re-read what I posted. I simply used warriors as everyone whines about them right now haha.

Grackleflint.4956:

It’s a bad thing. In the OPs scenario, you have to grind gear and spend many hours leveling to play the FOTM at the highest competitive level. In GW2 they are constantly chasing game balance due to the way ppl pile into a FOTM profession. In WoW if a class was some kittenty FOTM then ppl would counter it through trial and error, and the kittenty FOTM abuser would be in their own personal hell until balance swung another way.

Winner winner chicken dinner

Your assessment is probably correct. Putting a barrier to class reroll would make poor balance less of an issue. But that is really a bad way to go for pvp.

milo.6942:

Your assessment is probably correct. Putting a barrier to class reroll would make poor balance less of an issue. But that is really a bad way to go for pvp.

This is a selling point of GW2. No gear treadmill etc. In wow, if warriors were nerfed, and you were a warrior, you simply switched to the most viable spec you had, and HOPED others would actually play with you (probably in 5v5).

In this game, if you get screwed, you simply re-roll and faceroll with the new FOTM class literally a minute later.

Conditions OP? Let’s play classes that allow insane DPS with them (necro/engi/ranger)

Tank allowed 50% crit? Let’s play warriors

Healing signet OP? Let’s play warriors

It simply allows US the end users to AMPLIFY the imba in game, and much quickly before. WoW never had to deal with this, and I kind of liked it that way.

In GW2 the meta can literally shift overnight.

It is a double edged blade, but can be fixed by simply putting more effort into class balance. When you can’t amplify glaring mistakes, you can actually have a better, balanced time for all.

You need to start with the basics first mang.

than this has nothing to do with class availability – its is a problem for the balancing team

What is this thead? You telling me that nobody rerolled in WoW?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PvP arena representation was ridiculous as well. S3 resto druids anyone?

I don’t get it. Why in the world would you want balance to take -longer- to achieve? There are a limited number of classes with a limited number of abilities available to each. Eventually pvp will reach a point where each class is about equally balanced. Personally, I see every class represented right now, though some more than others, and I think that’s a good sign. It means game balance is moving in the right direction. Why would you want to slow that down?

Subdue.5479:

I don’t get it. Why in the world would you want balance to take -longer- to achieve? There are a limited number of classes with a limited number of abilities available to each. Eventually pvp will reach a point where each class is about equally balanced. Personally, I see every class represented right now, though some more than others, and I think that’s a good sign. It means game balance is moving in the right direction. Why would you want to slow that down?

I want balance to be instant, everyone does. For you to infer that I don’t want that means you can’t comprehend my posts. Please re-read and digest information before trying to call me out for something I didn’t say

*To ganky~ 99% of the population were not going to re-roll after they achieved 5/5 of their sets…in this game they do Re-rolling in S3 for resto druids occurred because of how sick they did in S2. They didn’t re-roll DURING S2. Most of them at least…

I am simply saying that the sooner you balance the classes properly, the sooner everything in this game will fall into place.

*btw there is no equal class rep at this point. Let us not forget that no ele’s were harmed during PAX.

Did you know:

The bug report forum has triple the amount of topic then the entire pvp forum ^^

The attitude expressed in this thread that most players are stupid and/or bad at the game is part of why sPVP is underpopulated.

Qaelyn.7612:

The attitude expressed in this thread that most players are stupid and/or bad at the game is part of why sPVP is underpopulated.

I think you clearly didn’t comprehend this thread than lol