Guild Wars 2

I just want to get something strait. It feels unreal to me.

I got a losing streak early this season. I did get into emerald now mostly just grinding. never felt like I beat or lost to a team fairly.

So I am in t3 emerald and I got low mmr cause i lost a lot. A LOT. So when it puts me in a team it gives me people with my low mmr but I face teams with higher mmr but we all in emerald. Is this right?

I am just trying to understand why I am playing with people who are new to the game or that are clearly not experienced in pvp.

the game starts and the team triple splits, makes my heart break a little and i just let out a deep breath but i still give it maximum effort!

I know I am not this bad that my winrate is like 10%. I been playing this game over 2 years now and 90% of my time is doing spvp. I play pvp games all my life, grew up on street fighter and age of empires. I love competition!

The good news I hear is that once all the “good” people leave emerald I will have more fair matches. Sounds nice and hard to believe……..I wonder what the population will be like at that point….

Season 2 has been out for only a few days and I feel so exhausted from it already.

Milan.9035:

I just want to get something strait. It feels unreal to me.

I got a losing streak early this season. I did get into emerald now mostly just grinding. never felt like I beat or lost to a team fairly.

So I am in t3 emerald and I got low mmr cause i lost a lot. A LOT. So when it puts me in a team it gives me people with my low mmr but I face teams with higher mmr but we all in emerald. Is this right?

I am just trying to understand why I am playing with people who are new to the game or that are clearly not experienced in pvp.

the game starts and the team triple splits, makes my heart break a little and i just let out a deep breath but i still give it maximum effort!

I know I am not this bad that my winrate is like 10%. I been playing this game over 2 years now and 90% of my time is doing spvp. I play pvp games all my life, grew up on street fighter and age of empires. I love competition!

The good news I hear is that once all the “good” people leave emerald I will have more fair matches. Sounds nice and hard to believe……..I wonder what the population will be like at that point….

Season 2 has been out for only a few days and I feel so exhausted from it already.

Milan.9035:

I am just trying to understand why I am playing with people who are new to the game or that are clearly not experienced in pvp.

I dont know. Why are you?

I thought the point of sPvP ranked matches was to gather 5 man groups and play good to win against other 5 man groups, whereas unranked was for the disorganized mob that solo/duo etc. If your group is new to the game or not experienced to PvP… that may just be the reason for failing.

Or does ranked support solo queue only now? Dont get me wrong because that would be awesome (I have no friends) but last time I checked it didnt.

I agree with everything u say. I don’t understand y anet doesn’t start ppl out in tiers according to longevity playing pvp. That way, the skilled pvpers would be in a tier together. There would be no “carrying” of weaker players cuz they would have to work their way up out fo the tiers. Higher placed players couldn’t help lower players w.o sacrificing something. Newbies would all be tiered together. That way, if a player had been playing pvp a long time, but still wasn’t skilled, they would be weeded out and left behind in the bottom of the upper tier system. Skilled players, with less experience, would start out lower, but work their way up thru lower tiers, and then up thru the higher tiers (where they could then be carried if desired). They need to have solo and team, or if not that, then at least totally random, w./ no ability to “reroll.” They need to balance classes/skills better and not allow more than one class per match. That might actually show who has skill and who doesn’t.

As it stands right now, I am 88 to 3 in a recent 79 game losing streak. Ive won a couple today, but basically am still in tier 1 of emerald. I cannot get a team that does anything right. I actually was paired 4 times w/ a BOT. A BOT. Ridiculous. Im paired now w/ people who fight in the middle of map, don’t even KNOW to cap, kill nothing but try to kill everything one on one. I have afker’s, dc’ers and oppoisiton is filled w/ stompers (4 reapers and a solo) when my team has a Mesmer v/ pve build, a wr w/ no skill, ranger w/ no clue and a medium dumpy engineer or ele w/ no meta. This is my pvp experience now, after 2 yrs of solid gw2 playing. My first three days on seas 2 has my stuck in emerald tier one for 3 days. I am now losing hope I will EVER get out of it, as my mmr is RUINED forever. I kinda think Im gonna give up. I kinda think it may be time to go, cuz its so demoralizing.

Keep your chin up. Your not that bad. Ive gotten so bad, I can tell Im gonna lose the second the team starts talking (and not about strategy). I can just tell.

And yes, the ppl u r coming up against could very well be blitzing thru emerald on a win streak w/ their buddies helping them out, so you could get stomped, esp if the score is like 500 to 10 (talk about bad balance and reroll chump city).

Anyway, gl and hang in there. Don’t let it get u down … I guess.

Dawdler.8521:

Milan.9035:

I am just trying to understand why I am playing with people who are new to the game or that are clearly not experienced in pvp.

I dont know. Why are you?

I thought the point of sPvP ranked matches was to gather 5 man groups and play good to win against other 5 man groups, whereas unranked was for the disorganized mob that solo/duo etc. If your group is new to the game or not experienced to PvP… that may just be the reason for failing.

Or does ranked support solo queue only now? Dont get me wrong because that would be awesome (I have no friends) but last time I checked it didnt.

No its not solo only and I am like you I dont really have friends in game.

Really solo and team is not a problem, at all for me, i played a lot of games now this season and maybe less than 10 games had any people on a team. So my games have been mostly solo vs solo.

Dawdler.8521:

Milan.9035:

I am just trying to understand why I am playing with people who are new to the game or that are clearly not experienced in pvp.

I dont know. Why are you?

I thought the point of sPvP ranked matches was to gather 5 man groups and play good to win against other 5 man groups, whereas unranked was for the disorganized mob that solo/duo etc. If your group is new to the game or not experienced to PvP… that may just be the reason for failing.

Or does ranked support solo queue only now? Dont get me wrong because that would be awesome (I have no friends) but last time I checked it didnt.

A net have made “changes” to the system so solo teams should never face a 5 man premade. But this dose not mean you will not face 4 man or a 2 and 3 ma. Premade group. The game should compromise and do the same for your team, but not always. I’ve. Vs teams of 3-4 player groups and had a team of full solos.

Now I’m not saying this is not fringe situation. Just an observation from my games.

Because new people start with average MMR. Best decision ever, right?

Laraley.7695:

Because new people start with average MMR. Best decision ever, right?

They totally kittened average players with that decision…low tier players from season one have way better time now, because low mmr from season one is 10 times better than newbie with no idea about map, his class, rotations, or some even come without amulet

New people’s MMR should drop way faster than the MMR of people with a higher amount of games played. Unless you are new to ranked too, it is very unlikely to get matched with newbies all the time, even if you have an average MMR.

I would agree with that Umbra but it feels quite opposite for me, like I am losing and going down and getting worse and worse games.

dont worry, there are times i managed to kill a beast and 2 guy at the same time, still lose the match despite getting top player of this and that or getting xx points for the team

i lost count the number of times i see zero pointer in the team

Issue is plain and simple. ANET is trying to lure and cater to the people who constitute less than 1% of the game’s population – Raid and ESL.

They made a U turn w/ HoT and will continue to do so till noob and casual people stop playing this game. When gathering becomes more fun than PvP, I think it’s time to leave. Let all 1337s that ANET wants to cater to play with each other. Rest of us scums just gather.

When I get to ruby, I will lower my MMR to the dust, I will loose every game…

BrotherBelial.3094:

Dawdler.8521:

Milan.9035:

I am just trying to understand why I am playing with people who are new to the game or that are clearly not experienced in pvp.

I dont know. Why are you?

I thought the point of sPvP ranked matches was to gather 5 man groups and play good to win against other 5 man groups, whereas unranked was for the disorganized mob that solo/duo etc. If your group is new to the game or not experienced to PvP… that may just be the reason for failing.

Or does ranked support solo queue only now? Dont get me wrong because that would be awesome (I have no friends) but last time I checked it didnt.

A net have made “changes” to the system so solo teams should never face a 5 man premade. But this dose not mean you will not face 4 man or a 2 and 3 ma. Premade group. The game should compromise and do the same for your team, but not always. I’ve. Vs teams of 3-4 player groups and had a team of full solos.

Now I’m not saying this is not fringe situation. Just an observation from my games.

I face 5 man premades quite often just bc someone went duo on my team. A good half of my games is vs premades atm. But hey, its just 1%..

SkyShroud.2865:

dont worry, there are times i managed to kill a beast and 2 guy at the same time, still lose the match despite getting top player of this and that or getting xx points for the team

i lost count the number of times i see zero pointer in the team

I’ve been on a team where I have scored the only points. Everyone else on my team just cain feed the other team running one at a time to the 3 guys at middle while the other 2 gank me every time I recapped home.

not to mention how only a selected few classes are played in pvp, great job ANET

MetalJacket.2307:

not to mention how only a selected few classes are played in pvp, great job ANET

Like it’s a dead cert if you have more than one warrior on your team you will lose. Not gonna lie, there are good warriors out there, I’ve been fortunate enough to have them.on my team. But the bad ones or, the ones that are not as good as the players on the other team are in great supply.

maybe its only me. i had winning strike amber. in emerald lost 4 games and again winning strike to sapphire .
i had team up with 2 thieves guard and necro versus 3 necros and 2 ranger and we won . just ask the thief to rotate like hell and head shot spam the necros
basically i notice that before the fight we state our split (usually close mid basic 1-4)
when i lost is was just cause of bad rotation and no support from my team. i had 1v2 for 2 min while my team weren’t able to kill 4v3
also so many engi and necro and ranger ….

messiah.1908:

maybe its only me. i had winning strike amber. in emerald lost 4 games and again winning strike to sapphire .
i had team up with 2 thieves guard and necro versus 3 necros and 2 ranger and we won . just ask the thief to rotate like hell and head shot spam the necros
basically i notice that before the fight we state our split (usually close mid basic 1-4)
when i lost is was just cause of bad rotation and no support from my team. i had 1v2 for 2 min while my team weren’t able to kill 4v3
also so many engi and necro and ranger ….

The better your MMR, the more those problem are mitigated. So yeah, that kind of explain it.

Can’t get past emerald now, I win and then lose like a never ending circle, we just had the longest bastion ever because people were tanking and protecting their lords until the other team managed to summon 2 heroes…

Fivedawgs.4267:

messiah.1908:

maybe its only me. i had winning strike amber. in emerald lost 4 games and again winning strike to sapphire .
i had team up with 2 thieves guard and necro versus 3 necros and 2 ranger and we won . just ask the thief to rotate like hell and head shot spam the necros
basically i notice that before the fight we state our split (usually close mid basic 1-4)
when i lost is was just cause of bad rotation and no support from my team. i had 1v2 for 2 min while my team weren’t able to kill 4v3
also so many engi and necro and ranger ….

The better your MMR, the more those problem are mitigated. So yeah, that kind of explain it.

This. The better your MMR, the better chances you will have “good” team mates, have a run of bad luck, and you are doomed. All you need is a few game where people just do what they want because it worked in there last game, or because they was someone do it and it worked will not mean it will work again, or that they can do it. Sadly this was my team on the second day.

You would lay out the “plan” for the match at the start then 2-3 players just do what they want and you’ve lost the match before it’s even began. Then you have people not calling targets, or not focusing on one target.

I’m not claiming to be the best, but I have a clue of how to play PvP, how my class works. The vast majority of my team mates don’t, and they are getting worse.

Idiots were carried to sapphire very fast, and soloing u can’t pas ruby, u have to pre-made!

This is getting really really bad. I been playing all morning and still not one win. I think with the time for yesterday and today i got about 6-8 hours of losses.

My mmr must be rock bottom LOL

well im uninstalling just cuz of the pvp, will check back…haha when they fix it haha

This is unbalanced, anet says it will be after the good players climb, guess what, all good players battle at sapphire with each other like me, I’ve had many battles with primordial legends, so how do you climb?! When I beat them up to?( I’ve won many times agianst them) How do those primordial legends climb? And how the f will I climb in ruby? With only 4 man pre-made, I tell u how!

Something has to be clearly broken. But its the weekend probably no one around to do anything about it.

Its too bad cause the weekend is when I play the most. So now while I am getting kitten d on one monitor and I am looking for other games on the other.

BrotherBelial.3094:

SkyShroud.2865:

dont worry, there are times i managed to kill a beast and 2 guy at the same time, still lose the match despite getting top player of this and that or getting xx points for the team

i lost count the number of times i see zero pointer in the team

I’ve been on a team where I have scored the only points. Everyone else on my team just cain feed the other team running one at a time to the 3 guys at middle while the other 2 gank me every time I recapped home.

hahahahahha…….i just experienced that…the whole freaking team is zero point i am fighting 1v2 or 1v3 most of the time
i only got points becoz i am the only one going around capping and decapping

Once the match making system decides you are bad you will not get out of it, unless you team up.

The amount by which most matches favor one team are ridiculous and the fun is gone. It will settle in future is not good enough cause most players will be bored with losing by then. That in itself will also hurt the good players once they do not get any attention for the mode.

YAAAAAAA!!!! first win in 8 hours!!!

LordOtto.2650:

This is unbalanced, anet says it will be after the good players climb, guess what, all good players battle at sapphire with each other like me, I’ve had many battles with primordial legends, so how do you climb?! When I beat them up to?( I’ve won many times agianst them) How do those primordial legends climb? And how the f will I climb in ruby? With only 4 man pre-made, I tell u how!

Primordial Legend does not mean anything.

It means they have brain … not like others… if we loose, but I saw everybody did all that he could, I say nothing, I even enjoy it, but when 2-3 plays good, at my or legendary phase, and the other 2-3 player is emerald type, no brain, than I want to climb the walls…
There is no enjoy, and it will remain the same.. ppl will remain in ruby with solo queue forever…
Don’t tell me to get gut, ’cauze I f smash your face, when I played with 4 pre-made legendary type players, we smashed them, I was the best player there…there is no chance to solo queue and expect to win/climb divisions after you reach ruby, no more, nada ,ever…

And now I lose again. after my many hours of play I think I have discovered something….

Has anyone doing solo q ever faced someone who has been teamed with you before?

I really think I never faced anyonewho was on my team.

LordOtto.2650:

It means they have brain … not like others… if we loose, but I saw everybody did all that he could, I say nothing, I even enjoy it, but when 2-3 plays good, at my or legendary phase, and the other 2-3 player is emerald type, no brain, than I want to climb the walls…
There is no enjoy, and it will remain the same.. ppl will remain in ruby with solo queue forever…
Don’t tell me to get gut, ’cauze I f smash your face, when I played with 4 pre-made legendary type players, we smashed them, I was the best player there…there is no chance to solo queue and expect to win/climb divisions after you reach ruby, no more, nada ,ever…

brain? Baddies got the Primordial Legend title in season 1 because of the Matchmaking and those exploits.

It just means they grinded the hell out of season 1

Title does not equate to player skill

Milan.9035:

And now I lose again. after my many hours of play I think I have discovered something….

Has anyone doing solo q ever faced someone who has been teamed with you before?

I really think I never faced anyonewho was on my team.

I have. But only people I have won with lol.

My luck has turned. I’ve got out of my current tir of Emerald. Twice I had team mates who listend focused on called targets. It was amazing! Now when I play ne,t I just hope my luck holds, as I’ll be on a win streak.

StickerHappy.8052:

LordOtto.2650:

It means they have brain … not like others… if we loose, but I saw everybody did all that he could, I say nothing, I even enjoy it, but when 2-3 plays good, at my or legendary phase, and the other 2-3 player is emerald type, no brain, than I want to climb the walls…
There is no enjoy, and it will remain the same.. ppl will remain in ruby with solo queue forever…
Don’t tell me to get gut, ’cauze I f smash your face, when I played with 4 pre-made legendary type players, we smashed them, I was the best player there…there is no chance to solo queue and expect to win/climb divisions after you reach ruby, no more, nada ,ever…

brain? Baddies got the Primordial Legend title in season 1 because of the Matchmaking and those exploits.

It just means they grinded the hell out of season 1

Title does not equate to player skill

^^this

you didn’t even need to exploit, you could just maintain 50% win rate and eventually get up there

Emerald tier 2 whole kittening day. Feels like ruby middle tier from the last season. Nothing but pain and agony. Extremely moronic. And you get laughed at when you ask for a team on map chat. Hopefully a better game will come out soon, following similar payment model.