Xanden Oakheart
Warrior
Seafarer’s Rest
Warrior
Seafarer’s Rest
(edited by Cav.9152)
See you next patch
I dont see a single glass cannon thief in tpvp, and in spvp half are death blossom scrubs, aka not glassy. ANet has stated that spike builds are meant to be doing what they are doing, and honestly the players need to l2p if they want to survive the spike trend.
What bunker dominated meta? o.O I mean, with a post like this you should do some research.
Its BAD that theres only a handful of cookie cutter specs? Its clear where your MMO background lies, cookie cutter is BAD. Cookie cutter = no skill players pigeonholing the meta, you literally stated one thing you wish there was more of that would actually perpetuate two of your other issues. Hmmmmmm. LOL
“only one map/game type” not even touching this one.
Yes, please, go back to LoL, thats a great balanced game. Sorry you cant just search a gw2 build on mobafire and insta-pwn with the current op champ like in LoL.
Hopefully you’ll have fun there and thats what its all about right?
If you are that upset at GW2 then you just look like an idiot for sticking around. -Bongwizard Slubs
Gotta agree on the only 1 game type ontop of being capture, i wouldnt mind if it was only 2v2/3v3/5v5 arenas at least they are not as boring and zergy as capture
I dont see a single glass cannon thief in tpvp, and in spvp half are death blossom scrubs, aka not glassy. ANet has stated that spike builds are meant to be doing what they are doing, and honestly the players need to l2p if they want to survive the spike trend.
Most thieves run Glass cannon in tPvP – If it wasn’t clear, OP was talking PAID tourneys (you know, the ones that count). Not that I’m echoing his complaints, just clarifying
What bunker dominated meta? o.O I mean, with a post like this you should do some research..
You don’t run paid tourneys without bunkers. Everything else is negotiable (you can try a little of this, a little of that, etc), but you absolutely need bunkers to have a chance at winning against an equally skilled team.
Its BAD that theres only a handful of cookie cutter specs? Its clear where your MMO background lies, cookie cutter is BAD. Cookie cutter = no skill players pigeonholing the meta, you literally stated one thing you wish there was more of that would actually perpetuate two of your other issues. Hmmmmmm. LOL
The way you’ve angrily and condescendingly agreed with his point here only leads me to believe you misunderstood.
“only one map/game type” not even touching this one.
Why? alot of players want additional game types – running the same type of map gets boring.
Yes, please, go back to LoL, thats a great balanced game. Sorry you cant just search a gw2 build on mobafire and insta-pwn with the current op champ like in LoL.
I don’t play LoL, but its lasted as long as it has for some reason. Perhaps you’re not a fan, but perhaps there’s something to be learned from its success.
Just to clarify, I don’t necessarily agree with OP, but I’ve gotten sick of the condescending tone.
If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
I dont see a single glass cannon thief in tpvp, and in spvp half are death blossom scrubs, aka not glassy. ANet has stated that spike builds are meant to be doing what they are doing, and honestly the players need to l2p if they want to survive the spike trend.
noobs can’t l2p if they are getting killed in 3 globals. i can’t agree with your spvp observation.. i’ve seen lots of glass cannon thieves and especially warriors which should have been my point anyway.
What bunker dominated meta? o.O I mean, with a post like this you should do some research.
have you played a single tpvp game in the last month? every team brings at least one bunker. guild mates even run with two. there’s specs that are too strong on their own and can outlast too much damage. bring a bunker or go home.
Its BAD that theres only a handful of cookie cutter specs? Its clear where your MMO background lies, cookie cutter is BAD.
you clearly never played GW1.
Cookie cutter = no skill players pigeonholing the meta, you literally stated one thing you wish there was more of that would actually perpetuate two of your other issues. Hmmmmmm. LOL
i have no idea what you are talking about.
Yes, please, go back to LoL, thats a great balanced game. Sorry you cant just search a gw2 build on mobafire and insta-pwn with the current op champ like in LoL.
LoL is years ahead of GW2 in terms of balance.
Hopefully you’ll have fun there and thats what its all about right?
yes it is. as i stated before, i still think GW2 can be successful as an esport, but for me it’s too frustrating at the moment.
Xanden Oakheart
Warrior
Seafarer’s Rest
Warrior
Seafarer’s Rest
evilapprentice.6379:You don’t run paid tourneys without bunkers. Everything else is negotiable (you can try a little of this, a little of that, etc), but you absolutely need bunkers to have a chance at winning against an equally skilled team.
Correct, but that doesnt make it bunker dominated. If that makes it bunker dominated then you might as well say its DPS dominated because theres a lot less bunkers than everything else and you need to take classes other than bunkers just as much as you need to take bunkers. Using your own logic here.
evilapprentice.6379:The way you’ve angrily and condescendingly agreed with his point here only leads me to believe you misunderstood.
He said lack of cookie cutter is bad, i said presence of cookie cutter is bad. Can you read? Do you speak English?
evilapprentice.6379:Why? alot of players want additional game types – running the same type of map gets boring.
Because I agree and so do a lot of other players so why touch that point?
evilapprentice.6379:I don’t play LoL, but its lasted as long as it has for some reason. Perhaps you’re not a fan, but perhaps there’s something to be learned from its success.
Just to clarify, I don’t necessarily agree with OP, but I’ve gotten sick of the condescending tone.
LoL is still alive because its free, BR’s play free games, and so do high school kids. BTW, text is flat, the only person with a condescending tone here is you when you apply it where it doesnt belong.
*********************************
have you played a single tpvp game in the last month? every team brings at least one bunker. guild mates even run with two. there’s specs that are too strong on their own and can outlast too much damage. bring a bunker or go home.
That leaves..what…4 other classes that arent bunker if every team brings 1 bunker? I fail to see how 20% of the tpvp population is “dominating” the other 80%
Cav.9152:you clearly never played GW1.
I actually did, and what I love about GW2 is the emphasis on not having cookie cutters, as stated by the developers. I think you’re upset because you cant just go plug in someone elses build and auto-win, children and BR’s do that.
Cav.9152:i have no idea.
Yeah I know, lol.
Cav.9152:LoL is years ahead of GW2 in terms of balance.
AHAHAHAHAHA, LoL has been out almost as long as WoW and at the same time LoL cant produce a single champ that doesnt need to be immediately re-worked. How is that balance?
Thank you, thank you. takes a bow
If you are that upset at GW2 then you just look like an idiot for sticking around. -Bongwizard Slubs
@EaGrimdarK.7849
Sigh. Bunkers dictate how other players build, that is why the meta is bunker dominated. If bunkers no longed existed, but Burst was untouched, you’d see alot more hybrid builds out there – you can beat burst with a hybrid build by having good reflexes and outplaying them. You can’t do the same with bunkers.
Yes, I speak english – Cav’s initial statement seems to be a slightly poorly worded “Why are there so few functioning cookie cutter builds, rather than a ton of effective, viable builds”. If he meant otherwise than the sentence structure is very clunky.
It’s funny that you call my ability to speak English into question – the sentence “I’m not even touching that one” has a negative connotation. If you wished to agree, you could have easily just typed “I agree.” Additionally, if you don’t find the following quote condescending, I’d hate to converse with you on a regular basis.
“Its BAD that theres only a handful of cookie cutter specs? Its clear where your MMO background lies, cookie cutter is BAD. Cookie cutter = no skill players pigeonholing the meta, you literally stated one thing you wish there was more of that would actually perpetuate two of your other issues. Hmmmmmm. LOL”
I get it, you’re an internet tough guy; don’t sweat it too much, many people are. Years of forum browsing around your formative years must have left you without a vehicle to express your opinions unless they are accompanied by dismissal, snark, and condescension to the point where you don’t even realize it. All I can do is hope you grow out of it.
If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
I think the real issue is too many areas of pvp have real problems, and nothing appears to be done to fix them all.
The same 3 maps, the same single game mode that isnt the best choice for pvp, some bad balance issues. Plus ranking and the general tone of the PVP side of things seems to be staling up far to quick.
Plus on the other side of the coin, there really is a lot of potential here. The combat system feels good, it feels involved and yet tactical to some degree. I like the varied build ideas, sure not all are working yet, but that will take a little more time.
And that’s the crux of the problem, some people want this to be the great pvp experience that was promised, and it could defiantly be. Some people perhaps took the hype too much at face value, but rightfully feel let down.
Remember, we are all players here, so we are all suffering this together. Maybe a little more time and we will start to see the good ship GW2 venture to better lands.
see you next patch. best wishes.
Hope you find a game that holds your interest for a long time. I know I’m looking for one…
i think the bunker problem stems from the game mode..really dont know why they only chose this game mode, wtb deathmatch asap.
+1 for dueling in the mists.
+1 for 3v3 or 2v2 deathmatch
+1 for 3v3 or 2v2 deathmatch
@EaGrimdarK.7849
Sigh. Bunkers dictate how other players build, that is why the meta is bunker dominated. If bunkers no longed existed, but Burst was untouched, you’d see alot more hybrid builds out there – you can beat burst with a hybrid build by having good reflexes and outplaying them. You can’t do the same with bunkers.
Yes, I speak english – Cav’s initial statement seems to be a slightly poorly worded “Why are there so few functioning cookie cutter builds, rather than a ton of effective, viable builds”. If he meant otherwise than the sentence structure is very clunky.
It’s funny that you call my ability to speak English into question – the sentence “I’m not even touching that one” has a negative connotation. If you wished to agree, you could have easily just typed “I agree.” Additionally, if you don’t find the following quote condescending, I’d hate to converse with you on a regular basis.
“Its BAD that theres only a handful of cookie cutter specs? Its clear where your MMO background lies, cookie cutter is BAD. Cookie cutter = no skill players pigeonholing the meta, you literally stated one thing you wish there was more of that would actually perpetuate two of your other issues. Hmmmmmm. LOL”
I get it, you’re an internet tough guy; don’t sweat it too much, many people are. Years of forum browsing around your formative years must have left you without a vehicle to express your opinions unless they are accompanied by dismissal, snark, and condescension to the point where you don’t even realize it. All I can do is hope you grow out of it.
So basically in order to keep you in condition to instagib people while unseen, we need to remove all form of defenses which currently allows your average Joe to walk in the map without the need to constantly looking behind every corner in order to avoid all invisible burst spammers.
Cool story bro..come back when you suggest to remove stealth from the game, but seen and how many Ninja Scroll fans you can find among thieves players, we’ll keep seeing the same suggestion over and over : " Dear Anet remove bunkers because I want to press F1-2-2-2-2-2-2-F1-2-2-2 and instantly kill people"
Because apparently it takes skills to attack people while unseen and if you the target die is because you don’t press dodge fast enough and you’ve got no enough toughness…
In the first case thieves use kittening venom and in the second case their dmg is so kittening high that even having 1.8k toughness won’t save you from receiving 6-7k dmg backstab followed by 2-3k dmg HS spamm.
As long as there will be a profession like thief, a class played by people who like to sit stealthed at the borders of the battlefiled like hyenas ready to jump at the first target below 40% health they see…I’ll keep going around with a build which will give me the time to react and retaliate against the horde of 2 buttons spammers out there