Guild Wars 2

I know few classes can get themself when they get down. But i see a lot of players in pvp can self rez them right away when they get down. No one that near them that make them rally or anything they just get up so fast. Like mesmer, ele etc………. Im not sure this is hacking or something else

I learned something about elementalists today.

I already know those skills Josh but it still doesn’t feel right for some reason

Vids or it never happend.

Ive left mid fights half done to decap farpoint; gotten downed on farpoint and instarallied from kills at mid…

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Josh Davis.6015:

Elementalist: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Renewal
Ranger: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Nature%27s_Renewal
Engineer: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_R

Can’t think of any others off the top of my head.

That’s not what the op is talking about. I’ve seen it happen myself multiple times and it’s been from I’m assuming Korean players mostly, based on their text and chat to eachother in /say /map. I think that’s Korean characters.

It happens like so… You start a match and meet said player, let’s say guardian, you fight, down him, no one else is around. Go in for the stomp and boom, instantly up with full hp…

It’s happened more times than I can count just like the players teleport hacking as they continue to teleport even in down states, no not thieves. Or even more occurring the random insta down followed by an insta stomp performed on you vs said player. That’s with me having zero lag and a solid connection.

Let me make it clearer: Our team 5 man zerg the mesmer in mid, he got down and got up right away then about 5 secs we clearly see the other 4 enemies come running into mid w/o any banner or spirit near him and they got no stealth to rez that mesmer. I was in SoloQ so i couldn’t screen shot or fraps it. We won that match in the end so it’s no big deal, just to give a head up.

Edit:
“That’s not what the op is talking about. I’ve seen it happen myself multiple times and it’s been from I’m assuming Korean players mostly, based on their text and chat to eachother in /say /map. I think that’s Korean characters.

It happens like so… You start a match and meet said player, let’s say guardian, you fight, down him, no one else is around. Go in for the stomp and boom, instantly up with full hp…

It’s happened more times than I can count just like the players teleport hacking as they continue to teleport even in down states, no not thieves. Or even more occurring the random insta down followed by an insta stomp performed on you vs said player. That’s with me having zero lag and a solid connection."

I see that often too! Something wierd is going on here…

Treborlavok.3504:

It happens like so… You start a match and meet said player, let’s say guardian, you fight, down him, no one else is around. Go in for the stomp and boom, instantly up with full hp…

It’s happened more times than I can count just like the players teleport hacking as they continue to teleport even in down states, no not thieves. Or even more occurring the random insta down followed by an insta stomp performed on you vs said player. That’s with me having zero lag and a solid connection.

I can confirm this happens very often recently. I thought I’m missing something and was asking my teammates how the other team can stomp us so fast when it usually takes about 5 seconds, but looks like nobody knows.

I don’t know if this is the case here but disconnects count as deaths and can make enemies rally afaik. Videos would be good . I haven’t seen any rezes I couldn’t explain so far.

Glad to see (althought not glad it’s happening) that I’m not the only one seeing this kinda stuff. It gets pretty bad in WvW as well, with people teleporting out of sight when they’re warriors or guards then run into them again a couple minutes later. You can tell they didn’t rage quit because you get no loot or that EXP + WVW EXP stuff pop up.

Eyia Hellhide.7320:

Treborlavok.3504:

It happens like so… You start a match and meet said player, let’s say guardian, you fight, down him, no one else is around. Go in for the stomp and boom, instantly up with full hp…

It’s happened more times than I can count just like the players teleport hacking as they continue to teleport even in down states, no not thieves. Or even more occurring the random insta down followed by an insta stomp performed on you vs said player. That’s with me having zero lag and a solid connection.

I can confirm this happens very often recently. I thought I’m missing something and was asking my teammates how the other team can stomp us so fast when it usually takes about 5 seconds, but looks like nobody knows.

The ability to properly report these ppl in pvp would be amazing…

Ok now i’m starting to undertand how dat mesmer defending far point went up from his downed stealth with other 4 of his team fighting at mid and noone of us died meanwhile (So no chance it was a rally from somewhere and noone of his mates left mid) got downed from backstab, went stealth and puff he was on point full hp already fighting again…soloq off course, we won anyway so i didn’t care that much but…wtf? Ppl already porting everywhere (And no i don’t mean portal or shadow trap, i mean rangers instantly porting from close to far when almost down) and now this…get a kittening gameguard style client already anet, and believe me even many “high ranked” players use those things, along with doors and treb exploits…sadly i can’t directly accuse ppl on forums…because you know, poor hacking guys…the only way to go is going perma recording atm, and it’s not really doable since you lose lots of fps and often hurts overall gameplay….so fix your stuff anet..really..

actually i believe it is a bug

it indeed happend to me once and i didn’t even do anything, i was suddenly up and at full HP

i wish i knew why it happend but i have no idea :/

P.S. playing thief mainly btw

few times i notcied one bud but its realy rare , i got rally when guy from my team was stomped , its happend to once and i saw same thing two times when i stoped enemy guy and other enemy got rally

Could you use the tomes of influence in pvp. I know they rally you.

There was a video of a guy using it in wvw.

Josh Davis.6015:

Elementalist: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Renewal
Ranger: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Nature%27s_Renewal
Engineer: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_R

Can’t think of any others off the top of my head.

You can’t think of any other intended ones.

There are several less savory possibilities.

Maybe someone they tagged died.

Kittens happen, right?

Never saw this ever in NA. You can rally off mob kills though, which are invisible to people with pvp target fixation.

In other news, eles have the best Rez signet, that makes them viable, right guys?

Right yesterday, I got instadead by one elementalist. And I don’t mean he dropped me from 100-0 and stomped me, no. He didn’t burst me, but when I was supposedly to go onto downed state, I was already dead.

Then there was one mesmer in soloQ that selfrezzed right in front of me (he didn’t rally, since none of my team mates were dead)

Asomal.6453:

Right yesterday, I got instadead by one elementalist. And I don’t mean he dropped me from 100-0 and stomped me, no. He didn’t burst me, but when I was supposedly to go onto downed state, I was already dead.

Then there was one mesmer in soloQ that selfrezzed right in front of me (he didn’t rally, since none of my team mates were dead)

I’ve done this on thief, if you pull somebody off a wall and gib them before they hit the ground, the fall damage kills them. There are tons of weird glitches that can launch players into the air or cause fall damage randomly

ens.9854:

Asomal.6453:

Right yesterday, I got instadead by one elementalist. And I don’t mean he dropped me from 100-0 and stomped me, no. He didn’t burst me, but when I was supposedly to go onto downed state, I was already dead.

Then there was one mesmer in soloQ that selfrezzed right in front of me (he didn’t rally, since none of my team mates were dead)

I’ve done this on thief, if you pull somebody off a wall and gib them before they hit the ground, the fall damage kills them. There are tons of weird glitches that can launch players into the air or cause fall damage randomly

Yeah, I know falling damage instakills you (like when you push downed people from treb). But I didn’t fall! That’s why it’s weird he could do that (maybe it was a bug afterall, but still…)

Simplicity.7208:

I learned something about elementalists today.

That’s because it takes so long to channel the fire attunements self-rez affect is completely and utterly worthless, combine that with the fact that the channel is also greater than it takes to stomp, and has the highest CD of any rez skill, and you have the most worthless support skill in the entire game.

I’ve definitely seen the instastomps. Where they stomp you 5x faster than normal. I can’t account for instarezzes. I’ve seen them but I can’t account for someone using an ability to do that.

Josh Davis.6015:

Elementalist: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Renewal
Ranger: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Nature%27s_Renewal
Engineer: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_R

Can’t think of any others off the top of my head.

Hey Josh,

Maybe a week ago I seen something similar to what the OP reports.

I was fighting a guardian on a capture point. Just as I was going to stomp him, he suddenly is back up with full health. I wasn’t too sure what happened and never seen anyone do it again afterwards.

About a week ago I downed a ranger in hotjoin and proceeded to watch him teleport six times back to his home point and then ressed.

I still remember when I saw a warrior teleporting around in down state on silent storm last month. Me and my friend in mumble thought it was hilarious yet said. I’ve seen these instant res and non quickness stomps

Those level up scrolls don’t work in PvP and also not in downed state, right?

Isn’t it more likely that they damaged someone who has then been stomped? Mesmers cannot res themselves through any other means.

New Living Story idea: the Korean Conspiracy.

this is rampant in team arena. can anyone do something about this? this is hacking. and pls make a video of this if you get a chance. these people are ruining the game. i already made a thread about this but it was deleted.

i saw a necro inta rez himself and it was 1v1. there’s no way that a necro can instarez himself. only rangers and engineers can do that.

Hmm, don’t know about resurrecting, but in the last few days I several times found people that I knocked off the Skyhammer teleported back to the map. I can remember of necromancer (which can be okay with whatever-skill-they-have), and, more strangely, a ranger.

Forsaker.9213:

few times i notcied one bud but its realy rare , i got rally when guy from my team was stomped , its happend to once and i saw same thing two times when i stoped enemy guy and other enemy got rally

No that has been fixed.

Like a month ago, I’ve got under the Skyhammer map in SoloQ. It wasn’t the first time, that map is full of bugs, but usually when I “evade” and I end up under the map, swimming, I just sigh and relog. It usually takes me to the place where I break into void, but not that time. After relogging, I was dead and with timer to rezz. When I did rezz, I was on blue team start graveyard, while being art of red team. To make it even more weird, after I got killed, I rezzed not on home graveyard, but in the same place where the first bug/glitch occured.

In big fights many rally as enemies they hit get defeated.

There’s a few skills that can rally self.

Some exploit things, like when they could use Tomes of Knowledge.

Some are using some sort of hack. I’ve seen people doing things that could not be explained by any game mechanic or lag. Like people becoming allied with our side, getting revived by some of who didn’t see that, then going hostile again.
Or teleporting around like crazy even though their professions do not have downed teleports.

And there’s quite some buggy behaviors that should never happen, like when a ranger uses Lick Wounds underwater, but defeating the pet or pushing away the ranger or the pet does not stop the revival, so the only way to defeat rangers underwater is either damaging faster than they can revive, or defeating them enough times within a short time so they get defeated instantly due to death penalty.

Nighthawk.6453:

Hmm, don’t know about resurrecting, but in the last few days I several times found people that I knocked off the Skyhammer teleported back to the map. I can remember of necromancer (which can be okay with whatever-skill-they-have), and, more strangely, a ranger.

Most skills can’t be activated mid-air (very few can, like Spin and Flip from Diving Goggles), and shadow steps only work between two spots close enough to each other between which the player can walk without jumping. So a necromancer can’t go back up with the Flesh wurm ability, a thief can’t go back up with bow 5, and a ranger definitely can’t go back up, they don’t have any way to do that.
If they go back up after being pushed down, either you are lagging and it looked like they fell but they actually didn’t fell on the server, or they are cheating.

Spectral Walk can be activated mid-air. If initial place was on the map, it will teleport you back to that place regardless of falling, being CC’d… That’s why Necromancer is good for jumping puzzles.

Tag as many people who are rushing to the middle point then make your way to a side point, if one of your tagged target dies while you’re downed (regardless of distance), you’ll rally.

Josh Davis.6015:

Elementalist: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Renewal
Ranger: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Nature%27s_Renewal
Engineer: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_R

Can’t think of any others off the top of my head.

I have fought players who revived themselves from scratch while they were downed and, yes, it’s happened when others weren’t even around. It’s happened with freshly spawned players (which means they didn’t tag any enemy), just like everybody is saying around here. There might actually be a bug/glitch that some people have been able to exploit.

Nabbo.2845:

Josh Davis.6015:

Elementalist: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Renewal
Ranger: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Nature%27s_Renewal
Engineer: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_R

Can’t think of any others off the top of my head.

I have fought players who revived themselves from scratch while they were downed and, yes, it’s happened when others weren’t even around. It’s happened with freshly spawned players (which means they didn’t tag any enemy), just like everybody is saying around here. There might actually be a bug/glitch that some people have been able to exploit.

Freshly Spawn’d means nothing, say im in mid hurting a thief i get killed and respawn, you attack me outside my spawn and down me, but the thief i had attacked in mid gets killed at that point i will res.

Distance and dying don’t mean anything just that you count towards the kill. Try not to get hysterical and shout “HAX!” before you’ve ruled out the simple explanations.

sometimes you rally when someone kills npc on other side of the map

i’ve seen some suspicious rallying too, though. maybe sort of bug no idea..

I have also fought a Guardian and downed him just to have him teleport 3 times away form my stomp then randomly get up with full health while no allies were around.