Guild Wars 2

Just joined a soloq match of tpvp 6 mesmers 3 thieves and me an Engineer, this is getting ridiculous!

Tpvp is worse than it ever was, what can be done?

wait till the 26th and see. These things are happening pretty often now.

fishybill.6908:

Just joined a soloq match of tpvp 6 mesmers 3 thieves and me an Engineer, this is getting ridiculous!

Tpvp is worse than it ever was, what can be done?

Just be glad you’re not a ranger, since you can expect yet another nerf next update. They sure like their topdogs here at Anet…

OGDeadHead.8326:

fishybill.6908:

Just joined a soloq match of tpvp 6 mesmers 3 thieves and me an Engineer, this is getting ridiculous!

Tpvp is worse than it ever was, what can be done?

Just be glad you’re not a ranger, since you can expect yet another nerf next update. They sure like their topdogs here at Anet…

You obviously missed he is an engineer, or are unaware engineer gets nerfed every patch.

fishybill.6908:

Just joined a soloq match of tpvp 6 mesmers 3 thieves and me an Engineer, this is getting ridiculous!

Tpvp is worse than it ever was, what can be done?

were the mesmers in the other team? if so, ask your team if they can play aoe heavy classes →profit

fishybill.6908:

Just joined a soloq match of tpvp 6 mesmers 3 thieves and me an Engineer, this is getting ridiculous!

Tpvp is worse than it ever was, what can be done?

I’ll quote myself maybe someone will actually read the post!

I hope that was a joke CrossFire, if not it was a complete failure to read or understand the post you’ve just replied to!

LOL sorry i just got up. I should learn to read.

Hey, engineers are getting turret buffs next patch. Also, the patch before last was practically nerf-free!

Seriously though, a team of all mesmers and thieves would be pretty lame. Your team had an advantage with you as an engineer.

Well, we did get a Kit Refinement nerf (ended up being half bugged but still a nerf) and Kit Refinement is again looking at some form of nerf. That is kinda outweighed by a large portion of buffs and tweaks though, so while sensation of “The Engineer always gets nerfed” will remain true it’s still a little silly.

My game just now.

The scary thing is that in the SoTG, anet mentioned only buffing the mesmer. Insane. I dont think they’re at all aware of whats going on in pvp. They’re killing it. No rewards like WvW and PVE, and a mesmer and thief fest.

It will be dead by the end of the year like this.

SmoothHussler.6387:

The scary thing is that in the SoTG, anet mentioned only buffing the mesmer. Insane. I dont think they’re at all aware of whats going on in pvp. They’re killing it.

They said they are buffing weak Mesmer’s options. It shouldn’t affect current shatter Mesmer builds. In fact, they said they are considering nerfing shatter’s damage if the new buffs to GS and Scepter end up making the current shatter builds way too strong.

Likewise, professions like the elementalist will also get buffs, but that does not means that the current bunker elementalists will become any stronger.

You’re right, they mentioned they might look at shatter builds. Maybe. The only definitive thing they mentioned were buffs though. If you play mesmers, you’re laughing. If you don’t, its a facepalm moment.

SmoothHussler.6387:

My game just now.

The scary thing is that in the SoTG, anet mentioned only buffing the mesmer. Insane. I dont think they’re at all aware of whats going on in pvp. They’re killing it. No rewards like WvW and PVE, and a mesmer and thief fest.

It will be dead by the end of the year like this.

This is how Anet “logic” works:
1. No big changes ever, even when they are needed. Only small adjustments. Static meta with few valid builds is the best thing ever.
2. If some profession is bugged and it is the least popular among players, let’s nerf it mildly with every patch, so it will be guaranteed to stay unpopular.
3. If some profession or weapon combination is overpowered and popular, let’s slightly buff it as that will make more players happy.

Buffs to the masses. Nerfs to the minority. Death to versatility.

Ayna

PS. Good developers would do the opposite.

SmoothHussler.6387:

You’re right, they mentioned they might look at shatter builds. Maybe. The only definitive thing they mentioned were buffs though. If you play mesmers, you’re laughing. If you don’t, its a facepalm moment.

The current Shatter builds do not user the Greatsword and the Scepter. In fact, the Scepter has been a very sucky option for mesmers as a whole. If anything,this should open up new options.

So what is the problem? Just because a single build is strong, it does not means that all builds of that profession are strong.

The Greatsword is a damage-oriented weapon, but it’s currently not worth using in pvp. The shatter mesmer has excellent burst. Should shatter mesmers start using the buffed GS over either staff or sword/ pistol, to deal even more damage, then it’s natural that the devs would nerf the shatter’s damage input. I believe that’s what they meant by “maybe”.

Ayestes.1273:

Well, we did get a Kit Refinement nerf (ended up being half bugged but still a nerf) and Kit Refinement is again looking at some form of nerf. That is kinda outweighed by a large portion of buffs and tweaks though, so while sensation of “The Engineer always gets nerfed” will remain true it’s still a little silly.

Not really, last time in many peoples opinions the Kit Refinement nerf (especially if it had actually been implemented properly) offset the minor buffs, as for the next patch, all people know is turrets are getting buffed and kit refinement is being changed to utility so will kill off 100nades.

If you look at the other patches, engy gets nerfed repeatedly – in beta pistol was nerfed so it hits like wet noodle, since then flamethrower mass pull was changed to less good knockback, elixir R cooldown increased, then smoke bomb was nerfed which was a big hit to survability (big reason why Teldo no longer plays his node defender build, no longer viable), stability was removed from juggernaut (only reliable source of stabilty engy had, yes it was OP, but to remove it entirely showed a lack of thought), etc

All of which has resulted in engy not being tier 1 at anything (outside of very specific situations like teaming up with necro to spread conditions), anything an engy can do bunker, roam, etc there are other classes that can do it better, nor does an engy bring anything unique in the way mesmer or necro do.

Today I ended up against the same guild team of mes/thief 3 times in a row of me joining solo into tpvp, absolutely ridiculous. Tired of these perma-invis thieves, it is a pain in the hole and while I didn’t personally mind dying against the mesmer (superior ability) it kitten me off no end to fight against the thief who, as far as I could tell, only came out of invisibility after I was dead, I would never see him unless he was far away and even then he could stealth, somehow kill me and then get back across the map to cap points. There is no skill involved with that, they need to deal the nerfs to thief and buffs to the engi, not the other way around.

When i sometimes join solo off course i take my mez….if i join with guardian i’m going to bunker a point and die at the first 2+ incoming because noone is going to backup me in pugs, glass thief is just too squishy for being really viable joining solo because without team support you can do almost nothing with a bs thief in tpvp since soon or later you’re going to be ganked badly as soon as you meet 2+ ppl or just someone not running around full glass….so i take mesmer because it gives me decent dmg and decent support for whatever i get in team…a sort of balance between bunker guard and gc thief..