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Posted by: Coulter.2315

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Shadow’s Embrace – Remove 1 condition in stealth, 3sec interval. (Trait description)

“Remove 1 condi on entering stealth, remove 1 condi every 3sec while in stealth, if more stealth is applied to you remove 1 condi while not resetting the interval tick.” (What it actually does)

This is a lot more condi removal than advertised, basicly being 1 removal every second while in sr PLUS the removal every 3sec AND the initial removal from entering stealth.

Curious if anet want to reword the trait or is it bugged and thieves are getting away with murder?

Or you could nerf plasma and sbow and I will keep it a secret ^^

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

Kolly.9872

Actually in sr it removes 1 cond every 3 secs, not sure what are you talking about

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Posted by: Coulter.2315

Coulter.2315

Actually in sr it removes 1 cond every 3 secs, not sure what are you talking about

Just watched it remove 5 condis while thief stood in it.

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Posted by: Zero Day.2594

Zero Day.2594

Actually in sr it removes 1 cond every 3 secs, not sure what are you talking about

Just watched it remove 5 condis while thief stood in it.

And you’re 100% sure he wasn’t shotting through some sort of a combo-field (the one that removes conditions when shot through, light?)? Or other factors outside of SR…?

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

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which kind of condi? what build that thief was running? Couldn’t be that burning poison or bleeding were removed by pain response? But overall have you ever tried that trait, that was already fixed months ago?

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

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It’s been like this they need to fix the description I dare them to nerf the main reason we go in SA.

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Posted by: Coulter.2315

Coulter.2315

Actually in sr it removes 1 cond every 3 secs, not sure what are you talking about

Just watched it remove 5 condis while thief stood in it.

And you’re 100% sure he wasn’t shotting through some sort of a combo-field (the one that removes conditions when shot through, light?)? Or other factors outside of SR…?

Was observing a 1v1 and thief used 60206 standard DP build, I’m afraid it acts as I described. Sagat appears to confirm.

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Posted by: SoulSin.5682

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Never payed close attention to it.

I am 100% positive you clean one condition every time you enter stealth, but I am not sure you clean conditions every stack.

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

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Absolutely! You don’t clean conditions per stacks! the first one upon entering stealth ane then one every three secs. That’s it, and personally in a game with a huge amount of spammable conditions, this trait would be balanced even if it would have removed 1 cond every stack

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Absolutely! You don’t clean conditions per stacks! the first one upon entering stealth ane then one every three secs. That’s it, and personally in a game with a huge amount of spammable conditions, this trait would be balanced even if it would have removed 1 cond every stack

That’s not really how balance works… That’s like saying with how spammable power attacks are, 100% protection uptime and 1 aegis every 2 seconds would be balanced.

Conditions are just a damage source. The bigger problem is they scale too well for a single stat so many condition users are also pretty tanky but thats pretty off-topic.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

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It’s a bug they haven’t bothered to fix for years. Makes stealth spam thief builds a pain in the kitten to deal with on condi builds.

If you think it’s bad in spvp, where stealth isn’t as frequently used as it hurts capping points, imagine WvW in which thieves are BP>HS’ing every 4 seconds.

If only my ranger or necro or mesmer had such spammable access to condi clears on a skill combo that also forcefully drops target and comes with the perk of one of the stronger nukes with no telegraphs in the game.

But nope, it’s ele/warrior/thief/guardian land.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

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Well, given that you can still CnD off keep walls in WvW, I doubt they’d fix any bug in this regard anytime soon.

Of course, shadow’s embrace is one of the only things that allows thieves to combat condition heavy builds, like a PU mes. So… maybe it’s ok being a bit broken for the moment?

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

General rule for tool tips and intended/broken questions.

If it’s a Mesmer: It’s a bug. Prepare for nerf.

If it’s a Thief: Working as intended. Every Thief will confirm.

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