Guild Wars 2

So my main is mesmer. I roll guardian and ele from time to time, used to play thief but currently my main is mesmer.

So although a lot of QQing goes on I figure it’s probably best if I just ask the proper way.

How do I counter BM roam?

The way I see it as a shatter mesmer (since I haven’t really has the chance to seriously 1v1 with another class)

Is I can’t do any meaningful damage. And any pokes I do are out healed.

Even if 2/3 shatters land with all their doge spam they heal to full, with a heal that makes any of my damage between the time it’s cast and the end of its duration worthless.

This is all going on while their pet is in my face, and if its a dog I can’t even kill it with it’s tankyness, not to mention also taking the same trolly heal as the ranger.

How do I counter any of this? I just can’t keep their health down.

Now this would be fine if I wasn’t getting hit with arrows over and over, sure they don’t do much, but I’m glass and if I can’t get any meaningful damage or pressure out its impossible for me to kill them before they down me.

Also reflect does nothing, that’s just a part of the poke they out heal.

Ofc I don’t have this problem with phantasm but phant is easy mode and really takes no skill to use, and subsequently isn’t fun at all for me.

So how do I counter this as a shatter build? Or am I doomed to just go phant to counter everything?

This btw were my problems before the buffs and I tried to post but it went more or less ignored cuz everyone cared more about ele. But since I’m not alone on this now maybe I can get some advice from people looking harder at this.

Also as a bunker spec shouldn’t this just be “hold a place on a battle field?” Not be a “out last and win anything 1v1” like a ret pally? < why I was happy this was supposed to be a skill based game.

But if it is a lack of skill and a L2Play issue then help me L2P!

Perhaps a really good shatter mes out there has a better answer than mine, but it just seems to be a bad matchup to me.

Sustained damage can beat a good BM (as you mention a Phant mes seems to handle BM’s better), but a shatter mes is just too bursty to do it. With all the evades (not to mention LoS-ing behing the pet) most of your burst will be negated by a good BM leaving you with not enough DPS to keep up with him, and since he can both out heal and out damage you there isn’t much opportunity to win without either very favorable RNG on crits, or mistakes from the ranger.

Some match-ups are just bad match-ups 1v1. I think this is one of them.

1v1~ is their game, beastmasters give no support to team fights and have their pets utterly kitten as the numbers get at or above 2 enemies… so they have PLENTY of issues all their own.

BM Roam is good but nothing should beat a Phanta mesmer.

Puandro.3245:

BM Roam is good but nothing should beat a Phanta mesmer.

The problem is, phanta mesmer is useless in tPvP. So the only class that can pressure a ranger is prob a engi or power nec.

interrupt the heal

mantra of distraction is great

Mantra-Mesmers OP!!!

1vs1 with ranger is always a bad matchup expec for a shatter mez, as you probably run in tpvp…no condition removal and the fact that you can put out a limited amount of combos easily dodgeable by a ranger, and they have a LOT of dodges..way more healing and those pets on steroids…probably ranger is the most dangerous class you could face atm imo and unless you’re running all anti-ranger utilities like feedback + nullfield (Dropping all the stuff that makes mesmer useful in tpvp) you’re probably going to lose vs a ranger who’s just a little more than brain dead…i always try to avoid fighting a ranger if i can…

Rangers are the new bunker Ele’s, as far as survival goes.

Only option is to get a teammate to help take him down or roll your own bunker (probably Engi). With the number I see in Rangers climbing after the patch, I’m starting to shake my head. Eventually I’ll just facepalm and start doing WvW again.

But for now I’m just enjoying the frustrations of being a Warrior in sPvP and learning my skill limits.

Chesire.9043:

Rangers are the new bunker Ele’s, as far as survival goes.

Only option is to get a teammate to help take him down or roll your own bunker (probably Engi). With the number I see in Rangers climbing after the patch, I’m starting to shake my head. Eventually I’ll just facepalm and start doing WvW again.

But for now I’m just enjoying the frustrations of being a Warrior in sPvP and learning my skill limits.

Disagree. For most team comps you might have to gang bang a good BM ranger, but a well played power necro (yeah, I know hard to find) can definitely get them 1v1 in a decent time frame, and a well played, tanky map denial build (multiple classes can set up for it) will be able to Neut the point on them, perhaps even cap (if they are 1v1 long enough). BM Ranger is strong, but not as ridiculous as the bunker ele’s were at their peak. It takes a different counter to beat them, but they are beatable.