Guild Wars 2

Should your PvP experience influence other parts of the game? This is not to say you would change the dynamic of “everyone is equal” pvp.

Consider the following as examples:
1) PvP wins provide points for WvW seasons.
2) You can level your characters in pvp all the way to 80.
3) PvP is a way to get key crafting materials, new rune sets etc that you can use outside of PvP.

Is the problem with PvP that it sits totally outside the rest of the game?

Yes, that is the problem. The majority of the playerbase, which are pve only players, care only about rewards.

There are no real rewards for them, so its impossible for them to get into it.

Imo, it would be nice (but nonesense) to give experience scrolls, like insta level or insta lvl20, but I’d have no idea for what they should be rewarded.

I’m still praying for a simple 1vs1 mode, where the reward would be some silver on a seperate leaderboard… Being higher on the leaderboard gives more silver to reward skilled players :P.

I assume making a duellig mode is simple, even though I know that assumption is wrong.

That, and they’re already working on a rewar system. I wonder if those rewards are usable in pve… It could very well attract some attention.

Josh Davis.6015:

Bringing the game closer together is something we’re actively working on accomplishing. We’ll be able to spill the beans on everything early next month. (I feel like a broken record at this point.)

But seriously. Beginning of December. All shall be revealed.

reveal it NOW dont toy with us!!

Josh Davis.6015:

Bringing the game closer together is something we’re actively working on accomplishing. We’ll be able to spill the beans on everything early next month. (I feel like a broken record at this point.)

But seriously. Beginning of December. All shall be revealed.

I am super stoked! Looking forward to it.
Broken records <3

Just don’t make PvP mandatory for PvEers. Hardcore PvPers vocally hate being forced to PvE; please respect their wishes, and respect that many PvE players do not want to be forced into PvP.

That said, I play both modes, though my focus is PvE for philosophical and physical seasons.

Equalizing rewards is great and good — but you will be making a mistake by making PvP mandatory.

Sytherek.7689:

Just don’t make PvP mandatory for PvEers. Hardcore PvPers vocally hate being forced to PvE; please respect their wishes, and respect that many PvE players do not want to be forced into PvP.

That said, I play both modes, though my focus is PvE for philosophical and physical seasons.

Equalizing rewards is great and good — but you will be making a mistake by making PvP mandatory.

If when Anet introduces PvP specific rewards, we better have to do PvP to get them.

Revealed only lasts 4 seconds! REVEAL NOW!

jkjk I just can’t wait to see what’s in store

One thing I can think of is actually something that existed in Guild Wars 1…Arenas that are accessible from the PvE area.

Perhaps even events that can lead to these instances (i will get to that in a second) and provide tangible PvE rewards

The way I think this would work is to actually have events in the main cities including and not-including PvP based ones.

If we harken back to the days of old, we can remember that Ascalon City, Yak’s Bend, Fort Koga, Droknar’s forge, etc. all had Arenas attached to them that you could effectively play at those levels.

In a new system, you would be able to access “The Arena” from any and all major cities, and is basically a randomized PvP arena that matches you with players of your level (or within 3-5) for a variety of different styles of PvP in order to slowly integrate a playstyle more attuned to PvX (in other words, players open to all aspects of the game)

Team Deathmatch and other simple styles of PvP would be the focus, with moderate (but not overly farmable) rewards allowing players to technically progress from 1-80 in PvP (other than WvW) while still playing through their respective PvE content if they choose.

I would enjoy this. Every time I step into PvP, working towards my legendary goes on hold.

Josh Davis.6015:

Bringing the game closer together is something we’re actively working on accomplishing. We’ll be able to spill the beans on everything early next month. (I feel like a broken record at this point.)

When will you guys learn that dumping a big set of changes into the game without any kind of vetting or review process involving player feedback is the surest way to deliver bad content and kitten players off.

Josh Davis.6015:

…we have a great plan and part of it is already being implemented…

Sorry I had to ^^

mix pve and pvp daily

both rewards in one chest
and both dailys in a list where i need 5-7 to complete it

it should be done – wvw and pve is one too

I think that will be great if done right. PvP WvW and PvE should not be seperate since it is all the same game. But at the moment only thing in PvP you get for PvE are laurels.

Josh Davis.6015:

Bringing the game closer together is something we’re actively working on accomplishing. We’ll be able to spill the beans on everything early next month. (I feel like a broken record at this point.)

But seriously. Beginning of December. All shall be revealed. ;)

Oh I cant wait :D.

Maybe if I’m lucky, it gets revealed on 14 december… Mesmer was revealed on 14 December too, and that’s my birthday :D

Bombsaway.7198:

Should your PvP experience influence other parts of the game? This is not to say you would change the dynamic of “everyone is equal” pvp.

Consider the following as examples:
1) PvP wins provide points for WvW seasons.
2) You can level your characters in pvp all the way to 80.
3) PvP is a way to get key crafting materials, new rune sets etc that you can use outside of PvP.

Is the problem with PvP that it sits totally outside the rest of the game?

1. No. WvW is not equal to PvP. They should be influence each other
2. No. Characters are already 80 in PvP. They do not need to be leveled there.
3. Agreed. I like the idea

4. and most important… allow PvP in certain areas of PvE.
5. Why can’t I bring my legendary skin into PvP?

There should be a way to unlock the gear and skins you have on pvp for pve and wvw. That way if someone who basically just plays pvp wants to do some dungeons with friends or help in wvw can do it.

darn you!!!! You are making me want to see it!!!! Dont disappoint me >.<

Letting me use my pvp appearance in pve would be a nice start… Considering how long it took to get these ranks…

ens.9854:

Letting me use my pvp appearance in pve would be a nice start… Considering how long it took to get these ranks…

Oh? Get yourself a full set of Orrian armor from PvP, then get it in PvE and see which takes more time :P

Zietlogik.6208:

ens.9854:

Letting me use my pvp appearance in pve would be a nice start… Considering how long it took to get these ranks…

Oh? Get yourself a full set of Orrian armor from PvP, then get it in PvE and see which takes more time :P

Pretty sure the answer is pvp. Although once you can get the first set you can get the rest quickly. Still there is no reason they can’t make it with transmutes to prevent it

Zietlogik.6208:

ens.9854:

Letting me use my pvp appearance in pve would be a nice start… Considering how long it took to get these ranks…

Oh? Get yourself a full set of Orrian armor from PvP, then get it in PvE and see which takes more time :P

100% sure it’s pvp which takes more time to get. Of course some adjustments to crafting should be made or increase glory cost whatever.

Alissah.9281:

Yes, that is the problem. The majority of the playerbase, which are pve only players, care only about rewards.

There are no real rewards for them, so its impossible for them to get into it.

Imo, it would be nice (but nonesense) to give experience scrolls, like insta level or insta lvl20, but I’d have no idea for what they should be rewarded.

I’m still praying for a simple 1vs1 mode, where the reward would be some silver on a seperate leaderboard… Being higher on the leaderboard gives more silver to reward skilled players :P.

I assume making a duellig mode is simple, even though I know that assumption is wrong.

That, and they’re already working on a reward system. I wonder if those rewards are usable in pve… It could very well attract some attention.

Yes! I agree with this post very much! Got a bit huffy about “pve only players, care only about rewards”, but that is essentially what keeps us going. Even if we enjoy the way to the rewards very much, I think we still “need” the reward to keep us from being bored.

I don’t think that the issue with a 1v1 mode is that it’s hard to create, but rather because it doesn’t agree with their balancing-philosophies; People will get upset that some professions are overpowered in 1v1, because the balance is created around Conquest and 5-player teams.

Josh Davis.6015:

Bringing the game closer together is something we’re actively working on accomplishing. We’ll be able to spill the beans on everything early next month. (I feel like a broken record at this point.)

But seriously. Beginning of December. All shall be revealed.

Thanks Grouch! =)

ens.9854:

Letting me use my pvp appearance in pve would be a nice start… Considering how long it took to get these ranks…

No, I don’t agree with this at all. Those rewards are a testament of your accomplishments in PvP, a very different part of the game.

In addition, you’d miss out on the journey towards acquiring those skins in PvE =)
If you already had access to them, the journey would be kinda ruined for a lot of people.

What about gaining more Guild Influence via PvP?
You almost get nothing and you only get influence for wins, which are a “risc factor”, as you chance of winning a game isn’t only influenced by you “skill” it also is influenced by you enemys skill.

Hower, if you do CoF p1, you dont have the problem, that the NPCs might be stronger then usual or acting smarter.

Actually we don’t need more PvE Population farming PvP, but rather attract real PvP-Players… you know, the whole crowd, who left the game. Anyway, we all know that PvP in GW2 was just a side-project and the development now tries desperately to make it something big.

Phadde.7362:

ens.9854:

Letting me use my pvp appearance in pve would be a nice start… Considering how long it took to get these ranks…

No, I don’t agree with this at all. Those rewards are a testament of your accomplishments in PvP, a very different part of the game.

In addition, you’d miss out on the journey towards acquiring those skins in PvE =)
If you already had access to them, the journey would be kinda ruined for a lot of people.

I think you vastly overestimate the numbers of players with access to high level skins. You don’t even start getting decent stuff till rank 40 (outside of match win chests.. Don’t recall what those give).

Besides, the first legendaries (and many other things…) were a testament to accomplishments in farming the trading post and zerging brokenly efficient karma routes. I don’t believe it should matter all that much where players are investing their time, and giving good pvp players a bit of visibility in pve besides the humorously easy to obtain “champion” titles seems like a nice thing to do.

Freeelancer.2860:

Josh Davis.6015:

…we have a great plan and part of it is already being implemented…

Sorry I had to ^^

As cunning as a fox who’s just been appointed professor of cunning at Oxford University?

Want to bring pve and pvp closer together? Take a look at demons / dark souls

Having a pvp player being the last boss of a dungeon is a fun idea