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Posted by: aenori.8296

aenori.8296

Well i was looking around and if this question had been asked on sites like gw2 guru and mmoc. Now i know SPVP doesnt grant any XP but i was wondering what is the reason for this?

Wouldnt it be nice to allow players the choise how they wish to level? For example i dont enjoy the PVE part of the game that much and rather do some PVP from time to time. Still i wouldnt mind gaining a few levels by doing it either.
Now i was wondering why not give a % (like 50%) of valor as XP. So 1 full valor level is half a level of XP. Since valor is harder to level up the benfit wouldnt be that great either.

Now i know people will come with the argument if you dont really care for PVE as much as PVP then why would you want to level up. Well firstly it would be nice for WvWvW to gain more traits. And offer a player a choise, between the standard heart guest and PvPing.

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Posted by: MrPiggi.6921

MrPiggi.6921

no. you have WvW and PvE. sPvP should stay PvP only.

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Posted by: aenori.8296

aenori.8296

no. you have WvW and PvE. sPvP should stay PvP only.

But what is the huge problem with giving a small bit of XP. Its highly in efficient even if 1 valor level == 1 real level. And since it doesn’t give any benefit or is bad for anything either. I hardly could see the huge problem with it.

But what is your biggest argument against it then? Just that its doable with other ways? Why not offer more possibilities for people isn’t that always a good thing offering people choices?

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Posted by: Sky.9347

Sky.9347

The big argument against it is that you don’t want people farming XP in the sPvP browser.

The only motivation someone has to go to sPvP is for PvP. There is zero other reason to ever step foot in sPvP.

I think it should stay that way.

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Posted by: MrPiggi.6921

MrPiggi.6921

Because then you’d have no incentive to touch the content of the game or WvW. The reward for sPvP, is valor. The reward for PvE/WvW is exp.

Offering people a choice of what? You don’t go sPvP to level, you go there to PvP. The only reason WvW has exp reward is because it uses your PvE character.

All I see here is someone too lazy to play the game and wants an easy way to level 80.

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Posted by: Irishbrewed.6537

Irishbrewed.6537

If you don’t enjoy pve content, then why worry about gaining levels for pve content? Serious questions, you’re 80 in pvp, enjoy.

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Posted by: Saereth.8306

Saereth.8306

I think this is a good idea. sPVP players surely would like to play in WvW and earn rewards there sometimes, but being able to slowly level your character to 80 to earn traits/skillpoints/etc for when you DO decide to WvW would be a good way to let the pvpers purely pvp without being forced to be a completely trait and skilless player when it comes to WvW without being forced to PVE.

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Posted by: Teabaker.9524

Teabaker.9524

Yea, I think it should award a bit of EP. Would make a great break from the grinding!

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Posted by: Irishbrewed.6537

Irishbrewed.6537

I think this is a good idea. sPVP players surely would like to play in WvW and earn rewards there sometimes, but being able to slowly level your character to 80 to earn traits/skillpoints/etc for when you DO decide to WvW would be a good way to let the pvpers purely pvp without being forced to be a completely trait and skilless player when it comes to WvW without being forced to PVE.

Well maybe an argument can be made that maybe spvp could grant unlocks trait ability wise for wvw use only but still not carry over to the pve game. Either way it’s fine as is. Pve isn’t as bad as you guys make it sound. And if you’re hardcore pvp then wvw leveling should be an option on your table. Just tough it out, you’re not useless no matter your actual level in wvw.

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Posted by: MrPiggi.6921

MrPiggi.6921

Yea, I think it should award a bit of EP. Would make a great break from the grinding!

No such thing as grinding in GW2.

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Posted by: aenori.8296

aenori.8296

Because then you’d have no incentive to touch the content of the game or WvW. The reward for sPvP, is valor. The reward for PvE/WvW is exp.

Offering people a choice of what? You don’t go sPvP to level, you go there to PvP. The only reason WvW has exp reward is because it uses your PvE character.

All I see here is someone too lazy to play the game and wants an easy way to level 80.

Why do you say an EASY way.. in my suggestion it would grant 1/2 of the valor leveling speed. Meaning it would probably take 10-20 times longer to level through SPVP i cant say that is the “Easy” way >.>

I just would like to have a small option. I really cant see why i should be forced to level through PVE again, and WvWvW is just one option (which is also pvp) why not have the option for SPVP to. I really cant see any bad things about that.

This simply is an option for people who dont want to play PVE and really enjoy SPVP and would like to see a small amount of XP for this.

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Posted by: Teabaker.9524

Teabaker.9524

Because then you’d have no incentive to touch the content of the game or WvW. The reward for sPvP, is valor. The reward for PvE/WvW is exp.

Offering people a choice of what? You don’t go sPvP to level, you go there to PvP. The only reason WvW has exp reward is because it uses your PvE character.

All I see here is someone too lazy to play the game and wants an easy way to level 80.

Why do you say an EASY way.. in my suggestion it would grant 1/2 of the valor leveling speed. Meaning it would probably take 10-20 times longer to level through SPVP i cant say that is the “Easy” way >.>

I just would like to have a small option. I really cant see why i should be forced to level through PVE again, and WvWvW is just one option (which is also pvp) why not have the option for SPVP to. I really cant see any bad things about that.

This simply is an option for people who dont want to play PVE and really enjoy SPVP and would like to see a small amount of XP for this.

This, I don’t see what is speaking against it.

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Posted by: MuteLunatic.9087

MuteLunatic.9087

I definitely think there should be xp in sPvP and tPvP. I also think the rate you gain xp in sPvP should be much lower than the rate you gain xp in PVE. So if I normally gain about a level an hour in pve it should take 2 hours in sPvP given a normal 50% win rate. I do think you should get more xp for wins and less for losses. Before xp in sPvP is implemented there needs to be an anti AFK system in place to keep people from sitting at the spawn gaining levels. XP gains thru pvp will allow me to participate in WvW with my sPvP characters and not make those people who PVE all day have a monstrous advantage over me in WvW.

It will also greatly encourage me to buy more character slots because as I level up the character in sPvP I will be much less likely to just delete em if I want to try a different profession.

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Posted by: aenori.8296

aenori.8296

Im happy to see im not the only one who tinks SPVP should be an option for the people who dont wish to level through PVE. For which ever reasons they might have to dislike PVE. Or if they simply prefer PVP

Hopefully Anet will implement this in some way or form. In the near future.

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Posted by: Vayra.3290

Vayra.3290

No, SPvP is 100% separate from pve and wvw and it should stay that way.

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Posted by: aenori.8296

aenori.8296

But why, what is so bad of offering a really small xp bonus for doing SPVP, if you compare it with normal PVE content or WvWvW this would be the slowest option with the idea i suggested. It doesnt benefit the people who want to level. And only benefits people who like to focuss on SPVP but also would like to level a bit because of it.

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Posted by: Pete.6037

Pete.6037

No. sPvP is completely seperate from WvW and PvE. If you want to level while PvPing, go play WvW.

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Posted by: aenori.8296

aenori.8296

No. sPvP is completely seperate from WvW and PvE. If you want to level while PvPing, go play WvW.

But what would change if there was the option to gain 1 level for ever 2 levels of valor. I mean nobody would get hurt by it, it wouldn’t disrupt normal leveling in any way either. I really cant see any problems with it, and nobody so far has brought any good arguments against it.

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Posted by: Geff.1930

Geff.1930

Here is the main reason for why gaining exp in sPvP will not be a good idea: Imagine if you sPvP all the time and never go out to PvE or WvW and you reach lvl 80 this way. Suddenly you are lvl 80 and you have 1 silver to your name and all lvl 1 gear. That’s a pretty big gap to close.

If you add gold and (non-cosmetic)item rewards in sPvP that ruins the whole point of sPvP.

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Posted by: Jadda.1753

Jadda.1753

Yea, I think it should award a bit of EP. Would make a great break from the grinding!

No such thing as grinding in GW2.

There sure is.

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Posted by: Angry Flying Squirrel.3041

Angry Flying Squirrel.3041

Yea, I think it should award a bit of EP. Would make a great break from the grinding!

No such thing as grinding in GW2.

There sure is.

No, since my post was deleted for no good reason. The answer to your question is no. sPVP should have nothing to do with, PVE or WvW. And yes there is a ton of grinding in this game. They never said there would be no grinding. Just no need to grind for best states. So far that has been true.

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