Guild Wars 2

Some time ago there was a discussion going on in this forum about why ranks or some kind of MMR are not being shown on a PVP games scorebord anymore.

The answer we received was basically this:

Justin ODell.9517:

Zenith.6403:

What are those problems of showing MMR?

Promoting harassment, elitism, and a toxic environment where artificial numbers are put over playing well together.

I understand the desire. I believe there may be some way of showing standing without the issue above, but I haven’t found it yet. Hopefully some one will soon.

So … how about instead of showing the individual player MMR, we get to see some kind of MMR that represents the whole team.
Especially since the new MMR system already uses an assumption on how a team will perform in a particular match, exactly this number could be used in a way understandable for everyone (e.g a percentage ratio: 40% to 60%).

This would give us little insight in how strong the opposing team was and how well we performed in that particular match without creating a toxic environment and drama.

I like it!

/15 chars

Justin ODell.9517:

We do plan to show the odds of winning as part of the final ladder when it’s released. We simply did not have the UI resources to get anything out in time for the test ladder.

Show MMR as well, it works in other games.

The harrassment will be the same anyway…

Justin ODell.9517:

We do plan to show the odds of winning as part of the final ladder when it’s released. We simply did not have the UI resources to get anything out in time for the test ladder.

Out of interest, what does “did not have the UI resources” mean? Did you run out of pixies making pixels?

William C.6195:

Justin ODell.9517:

We do plan to show the odds of winning as part of the final ladder when it’s released. We simply did not have the UI resources to get anything out in time for the test ladder.

Out of interest, what does “did not have the UI resources” mean? Did you run out of pixies making pixels?

He’s talking about man power, financial resources, etc. A game with no monthly subsription, limited employee line, can only produce so much product quarterly. You’d be surprised how pricey an mmo’s upkeep can be. Everything’s on a budget schedule.

Marcos.3690:

Justin ODell.9517:

We do plan to show the odds of winning as part of the final ladder when it’s released. We simply did not have the UI resources to get anything out in time for the test ladder.

Show MMR as well, it works in other games.

The harrassment will be the same anyway…

Yeah I agree with this as I alluded too in another thread Justin responded too. If you make any information public people will harass you. I got harassed by for using a staff on a mesmer the other day.

Publish all the information you can (except my password and CC number)

Justin ODell.9517:

We do plan to show the odds of winning as part of the final ladder when it’s released. We simply did not have the UI resources to get anything out in time for the test ladder.

Awesome this will help.