Oh right, they just got very unlucky in placement and should be higher ranked! That play I saw in two games on different teams was not indicative of their skill at all!
These forums are excellent every season.
U know….all players who win, win due to their own skillfull play. If they lose its due to bad luck.
Good to know all the players around 1200 rating are there because of their own skillfull play, not because it is the dumping ground for placement matches. Thank you.
Good to know all the players around 1200 rating are there because of their own skillfull play, not because it is the dumping ground for placement matches. Thank you.
No u misunderstood me. All players around 1200 are there due to lack of luck. If they where a bit more lucky they could be top 10 no problemo.
This is all you need to know.
If you account name is close to your Ele name, I can tell you why your teams are losing -> Its your play and your build.
You were on my team and we lost horribly because you went down in seconds, next game you were on opp team and we dropped you in seconds and won.
Thank you for posting that screenshot actually, it confirms that people on the forums complain when it is indeed their fault they are where they are at. There is no way, with the play I saw in two back to back games, you deserve to be at the same MMR I am.
I was running a glass condi build that I dropped two matches after.
Absolutely awful. If Anet wants Ele to be a condi build, at least give them something that generates a lot of condition passively. Guardian has Torch 4 and Virtue of Justice, both passive burns. In addition, they have way too many invulns and prots for their own good.
The rest of the matches were me running different builds – D/F auramancer, D/W auramancer – both very great in support. I then ran Mara Staff and finally broke the streak.
It’s all luck. I contributed something to my teams in all of those games, and that’s what matters. Mind you I was 6 points away from Platinum, and I don’t know what the kitten happened but ohhhh did it drop. It dropped very bad. I was like 3rd on my Friend and Guild rating list, now I’m on the second page. Oh well, we still have a lot of time left.
Can we not shown the ‘skill rating’ number around.
baddies blame matchmaking
No, this you glorifying matchmaking..
The only game I lost tonight I knew I deserved to lose. Whether the matchmaking was correct to place me vs a play duo ele/necro is another story. They shut down my block heal every time perfectly, although I could take down the necro easy enough if I split his ele off prior. Didn’t lose more than 10 for it so w/e.
baddies blame matchmaking
I am not a very good player. Though I am sure that many matches I have played in silver tier and even from when I started in gold tier there have been alot of bad players.
Most players after the 10 intro matches gets dropped in somewhere between bronce tier 1 to Gold Tier 3 no matter how good they are?
Now let’s say that you get dropped off in gold tier and every match you play you get teamed with players who was “lucky” enough to get to gold tier and does not deserve it (like me). Now I am a bad player who makes my team loose. You who rightfully are a gold tier player gets unlucky many matches and get matched with “new” players who makes your team lose. You will drop in rating and the lower rating you get the more is the chance of getting bad “new” players in your team and thus you will end up losing more matches than you deserve.
I don’t know where I deserve to be but I know that most of my matches ends in one team with score below 250 when the other reaches 500 me winning or not, if all players where equal in skills wouldn’t matches be more like 350 and over when the other team reaches 500?
Ok, went and started playing with my Zerk Arcane Tempest build. Boom! 6 win streak. Time to start climbing again.
The only game I lost tonight I knew I deserved to lose. Whether the matchmaking was correct to place me vs a play duo ele/necro is another story. They shut down my block heal every time perfectly, although I could take down the necro easy enough if I split his ele off prior. Didn’t lose more than 10 for it so w/e.
We’ve all been in games where the team truly deserved to loose. The problem is, what about the rest?
Yesterday I lost 10 matches in a row. That’s almost -400 MMR. Yeah no kitten. I lost 30-40 points per match. A couple of of the matches was lost badly, true. But 6 of those matches was lost with 450+ points on our team. It was like a curse. Victory or loss was a matter of seconds and those 6 rounds where really good games. I would even dare to say perfectly matched for all intents and purpose. But unfortunetly for me, I was always on the loosing team.
In this situation, the game basicly says kitten you stupid kitten noob you’re not allowed to have good game you kittenwad so here’s -40 points because you failed to kill the stupid kittening NPC for 25 points 3 seconds before the enemy kittening did. You suck. Now go win 3 matches in a row to make up for your kittenness. Haha j/k, lets make you loose 490 vs 500 next kittening round and give you another kittening -40 points. You still suck.
Isnt the entire point of the MMR to have even matches? Why kittening bother if you get punished just as much as a complete blowout when loosing them…
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Why do you keep apply some abstract hypothetical context to his argument. That’s not what is happening. You weren’t there so stop making kitten up about what people should be doing.
Ive had unlucky streaks. Ive played at bronze with my troll zerker amu vanilla power necro.
There is no way a good player stays at lower divisions for a long time. Since all but a handfull of games are stupidly easy to carry if youre somewhat decent and play a build that allows you to carry <- that includes plenty of builds that are not fotm.
U know what. Ive seen ppl complain about their teams in those games ive been in. Both with and against me. Hell i even saw guys from the forum who complained about the system in game, sucking hard… and making a post no less than an hour later about this issue youre having.
Its comical.
4 wins – 3 losses – 5 wins – 2 losses – 4 wins – 4 losses
I’m winning more than losing, I have a positive win rating. But with results like that thanks too awesome teammates needing to be carried every match, it’s taking FOREVER to move up. I had lousy placement matches, got dropped to Bronze 1, and now I’m climbing out of 9 rings of hell.
All your contrarian bullkitten isn’t apt or helpful.
I understand your frustration. I’ve been on a few unskilled teams and it’s absolutely no fun. I had two matches that were 4v5 in the placement matches and I was on the 4 both times. Not fair.
But this is not 1v1, it’s 5v5 and I think that’s the problem people have understanding. If you’re a great player, your teams will likely win more than they lose, but you’re not going to go 10-0 because of one person’s skill.
I hate losing, especially when I feel that I played well, but there’s not much you can do to change this system unless you make a 1v1 pvp game.
on some classes you can actually kill enemies faster than they can kill your noobs while having enough mobility to engage / disengage fights very quick like mesmer thief for example.
Other classes cant carry a game that much tho and as support especially you are just as strong as the people you can heal.
If you get a bad player on your team stop queuing until they go into a match. Better to risk rolling better opponents than having them drag down the team.
also dont stay in q for too long, the matchmaker will pair you with people far away from your skillrating
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