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Posted by: Shakya.6351

Shakya.6351

I dont get why Anet haven’t still removed this crap from solo q… 99% of players hate it, a lot of time we have to play 4v5 because ppl dont wanna play it…and it’s still there

really there is no reason, just admit that it was a failure and remove it…failures happens, but keep failing is kitten

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

I love skyhammer. Many people love skyhammer

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Posted by: Rednik.3809

Rednik.3809

I love skyhammer. Many people love skyhammer

This.

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Posted by: Yasha.5963

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We have had at least two polls about skyhammer and both showed an overwhelming majority hated it and at the least want it out of solo queue.

There is also a huge thread, where most of the feedback is negative about the map.

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Posted by: Rednik.3809

Rednik.3809

We have had at least two polls about skyhammer and both showed an overwhelming majority hated it

And how much votes was in your poll? For me it’s more like “vocal minority”.

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

I guess many player do not give a kitten about a poll or about a QQ thread

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Posted by: rimpak.8529

rimpak.8529

Why so many people hate it.. ?
I like skyhammer… And not being sarcastic at all

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Posted by: KarsaiB.9475

KarsaiB.9475

Anet should implement a ban option for each player to individually ban 1 or 2 maps he doesn’t want to play on.

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Posted by: Yasha.5963

Yasha.5963

We have had at least two polls about skyhammer and both showed an overwhelming majority hated it

And how much votes was in your poll? For me it’s more like “vocal minority”.

There was 332 votes in one poll with 80% wanting it out of the solo rotation.

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Posted by: Freeelancer.2860

Freeelancer.2860

I dont get why Anet haven’t still removed this crap from solo q… 99% of players hate it, a lot of time we have to play 4v5 because ppl dont wanna play it…and it’s still there

That may be true, but on the other hand 127% of players love it, so your argument is invalid.

On a more serious and less melodramatic note, I get why some people don’t like skyhammer.. Tbh, it’s not my favorite map either, far from it. But these claims of “overwhelming majority” and forum polls are just anecdotal evidence and as such they are completely useless.

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Posted by: Yasha.5963

Yasha.5963

I dont get why Anet haven’t still removed this crap from solo q… 99% of players hate it, a lot of time we have to play 4v5 because ppl dont wanna play it…and it’s still there

That may be true, but on the other hand 127% of players love it, so your argument is invalid.

On a more serious and less melodramatic note, I get why some people don’t like skyhammer.. Tbh, it’s not my favorite map either, far from it. But these claims of “overwhelming majority” and forum polls are just anecdotal evidence and as such they are completely useless.

If you read the many threads about skyhammer you will find explanations of why it is not fit for solo queue.

No other map has inspired multiple polls, threads, and people outright quitting because of it. If I started a poll “take foefire out of solo queue” its going to get no or next to no votes, because people are happy with that map.

Large community feedback is important.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

Anet should implement a ban option for each player to individually ban 1 or 2 maps he doesn’t want to play on.

Problem solved

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Posted by: Locuz.2651

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That may be true, but on the other hand 127% of players love it, so your argument is invalid.

On a more serious and less melodramatic note, I get why some people don’t like skyhammer.. Tbh, it’s not my favorite map either, far from it. But these claims of “overwhelming majority” and forum polls are just anecdotal evidence and as such they are completely useless.

322 votes, within a community this small, gives a pretty solid indication of what the overall opnion about this map is. 80% of those that voted disliked it in the soloqueue.

If it was a poll that was held on the LoL forums, sure.

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Posted by: Shakya.6351

Shakya.6351

Skyhammer is a map that doesn’t reward good play but good teams composition…some professions are useless, some other are gods

in a pvp scenario as solo q where the team composition is random this map dont have reason to exist…

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Posted by: Freeelancer.2860

Freeelancer.2860

322 votes, within a community this small, gives a pretty solid indication of what the overall opnion about this map is. 80% of those that voted disliked it in the soloqueue.

If it was a poll that was held on the LoL forums, sure.

And yet there are people even in this thread that do like Skyhammer or don’t mind it enough for it to be removed (like me, I’d much prefer some minor tweaks to the map). Besides 322 votes is still miniscule compared to at least 15k players and that’s not counting NA.

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Posted by: garethh.3518

garethh.3518

Anet should implement a ban option for each player to individually ban 1 or 2 maps he doesn’t want to play on.

But that’s what every other game does.
GW2 can’t be like every other game, GW2 better than other game, GW2 special.
If you wanted super… super average… go play your WoW.

In GW2 the land is rainbows and sunshine… I mean… for anyone who tries to walk this game, you’ll always be falling over reason.

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Posted by: Wintel.4873

Wintel.4873

Prepare for the thread-merge.

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

trolls love skyhammer, everyone else hates it.
there was a skyhammer appreciation thread on here and all of the comments were things like “lolol playing my engineer is so fun on this map!” trolls trolls trolls…

they should remove skyhammer from ALL pvp modes and add a new npc where trolls can queue for only skyhammer.

i love playing hotjoin and i’m sick of playing afew games and then switching servers because the map rotation gets back around to suckhammer.

just remove it Anet!

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Posted by: saVdoom.2067

saVdoom.2067

Honest to god i just went to forums to make a thread to remove Skyhammer from SoloQ rotation but i realized there was one already.

Played 3 skyhammer straight… 2 losses and a win, all 3 matches were so terrible and boring, full of a full cc engineer with stealth/pull/punt that i’m honestly going to play BF4, so…

Just give us the option to NOT play this map, like a ban or something, for crying out loud.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

once again, i would even pay gems or w/e they want just so i have option to remove skyhammer from my soloq rotation…

only ppl who like it is engi mains… hello Grouch~

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

I dont get why Anet haven’t still removed this crap from solo q… 99% of players hate it, a lot of time we have to play 4v5 because ppl dont wanna play it…and it’s still there

really there is no reason, just admit that it was a failure and remove it…failures happens, but keep failing is kitten

I used to rage about Skyhammer every day.

But then I just joined teamQ like everyone else. Better rewards and no Skyhammer.

The only down-side is that you occasionally play premades during prime-time.

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Posted by: Aza.2105

Aza.2105

Only engineers, thieves and necromancers love skyhammer. The map is notoriously class biased. Who ever has the most knockbacks and stealth pulls wins. I added necromancer to the list simply because fighting them in the extremely small area were the hammer is located is a absolute nightmare. Their marks and other skills literally take up 90% of the entire area. Its like battling inside of a shoe box.

Perhaps Anet is arrogant and just refuses to remove the map because of the time spent creating it. I personally do not feel that it belongs in the game, it feels like something geared towards a first person shooter.

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Posted by: Vuh.1328

Vuh.1328

Remove the map from solo queue untill you have tweaked it enough for players to like it.
Like: Remove the glass panels around the side points/time to make them break WAAAY longer, remove hammer or make it dodgeable, make the hammer platform bigger and with no breakable glass.
That would make me like it ALOT more

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Posted by: Yasha.5963

Yasha.5963

I dont get why Anet haven’t still removed this crap from solo q… 99% of players hate it, a lot of time we have to play 4v5 because ppl dont wanna play it…and it’s still there

really there is no reason, just admit that it was a failure and remove it…failures happens, but keep failing is kitten

I used to rage about Skyhammer every day.

But then I just joined teamQ like everyone else. Better rewards and no Skyhammer.

The only down-side is that you occasionally play premades during prime-time.

Haha, same here. I occasionally do a solo queue but immediately regret it if skyhammer pops. There seem to be a lot of people joining team queue solo or duo anyway.

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Posted by: Writetyper.1985

Writetyper.1985

This thread will be merged and ignored. Unfortunately for some reason they REALLY REALLY REALLY want to kill off solo queue, so skyhammer is staying.

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Posted by: Sampo.9678

Sampo.9678

Remove the map from solo queue untill you have tweaked it enough for players to like it.
Like: Remove the glass panels around the side points/time to make them break WAAAY longer, remove hammer or make it dodgeable, make the hammer platform bigger and with no breakable glass.
That would make me like it ALOT more

This.
I like the map as well but a thing i really hate is thiefs or engineers going stealth and doing scorpion wire and im dead. There’s no counter play for that…
Making the time for the glassplates to break longer would prevent that from happening a lot. And cannon is op

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Posted by: Skrill.6170

Skrill.6170

So hammer. Much glass. Very fall. Such engineers.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

If you remove the skyhammer and glass floor, skyhammer becomes the best map. Shame the flaws are there.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

i love being forced to play crap i hate~

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

The cannon is to strong in skyhammer,reduce the dmg on it.If i;m able to hold it the entire game,this will happen.

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Posted by: SoPP.7034

SoPP.7034

If you have the right profession/build your laughing. If you don’t you probably wont laugh much.

Other maps have particular NPC and mechanics that play out but don’t feel like they intrude the way Sky Hammer does.

A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”

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Posted by: Kebtiz.8370

Kebtiz.8370

The only part o Skyhammer I don’t like is the power of the cannon, it requires nearly no skill to use and does way to much damage to way to large of an area. If it was more on par with trebuchet I would be totally fine with it. The area should not be so large that it is often nearly impossible to get away from, it should be just a little larger than a point, imo.

I love the dead falls, the general map design is lovely.

The cannon is to strong in skyhammer,reduce the dmg on it.If i;m able to hold it the entire game,this will happen.

That is a terrible example, for one, 6 players, so it is hotjoin or custom, two the levels are stacked very heavily towards your team, not that rank is the end all of skill, but there is an obvious experience landslide here.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

The only part o Skyhammer I don’t like is the power of the cannon, it requires nearly no skill to use and does way to much damage to way to large of an area. If it was more on par with trebuchet I would be totally fine with it. The area should not be so large that it is often nearly impossible to get away from, it should be just a little larger than a point, imo.

I love the dead falls, the general map design is lovely.

The cannon is to strong in skyhammer,reduce the dmg on it.If i;m able to hold it the entire game,this will happen.

That is a terrible example, for one, 6 players, so it is hotjoin or custom, two the levels are stacked very heavily towards your team, not that rank is the end all of skill, but there is an obvious experience landslide here.

It doesn’t matter if it;s hotjoin,its just a prime example what happens when someone is able to cap it the entire match,solo q/team q/hotjoin,it happens in all..This was just one scrnshot i could find,since i dont make them all the time.

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Posted by: Raunchy.6891

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I actually really like the overall design and layout of Skyhammer but I think the problems lie mostly with the mechanics of the map/game not the hammer its self, although a change wouldn’t hurt:

1. You shouldn’t be able to be feared off of ledges. That’s just an extremely basic thing that WoW got right that should have already existed in this game.

2. Either extend the amount of time it takes to break the glass or make it only able to be destroyed by the hammer because all it does is cause troll knockback/pull mechanics to make the game less fun.

3. Make the hammer aoe smaller. Seriously the size of the thing is ridiculous. I don’t even care how much damage it does I just want to be able to get out of it ever. And tbh I could live without this change.

Like I said I really like the design but it’s just too much of a troll map to even be fun.

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Posted by: Obly.9243

Obly.9243

In my honest opinion i think skyhammer is a fun created map.

However, it is indeed a map with some major design flaws when looking at it from a tPvP perspective. It should not belong in solo-q or any tourney for that matter.

Skyhammer = Fun map for Hot-join fun and giggles, absolute garbage for tPvP rotation

But that is just MY opinion

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Posted by: saVdoom.2067

saVdoom.2067

Point is

The playerbase is not saying if Skyhammer is fun or not, since this is ofcourse subjective, all we are asking is very simple:

Please let us choose wether we want this map in our queue or not, give us the option, this will please every single one.

That’s all.

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Posted by: Umut.5471

Umut.5471

Skyhammer isn’t a problem as a map, but it doesn’t belong to soloQ as it’s a trolling, jp-like map.
It doesn’t suit to tournament pvp mode as it’s more about taking control of the hammer by launching foes to ground than competitive pvping.
Yes, I personally hate this map too as I prefer to fight instead of trolling ppl with ccs. It suits hotjoin only, nowhere else.

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Posted by: Abazigal.3679

Abazigal.3679

I don’t really like skyhammer generally, but i do believe it brings, with Spirit Watch, some diversity in the actual meta.
It’s not really fun facing warriors or mm necros sitting on each shrine over and over.. At least, these maps offer an other way of winning

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Posted by: entropy.9613

entropy.9613

Skyhammer…why?

Because.