Guild Wars 2

I am not one of those “Rangers longbow too stronk plx nrf pls” folks but let me tell you; I just had a game against 3 longbow rangers on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop PBS RF Barrage and Entangles from all ranges all over the map. If I wasn’t getting knocked on my kitten and rapid fired I was getting entangled and rapid fired and barraged at the same time.

I know I know L2P, L2Dodge, L2Block, L2Invuln etc etc. And I want to stress that again I am not claiming that LB zerker rangers are OP. I am saying that multiple rangers with their 1500 range short cooldown burst/CC make some games a nightmare.

If new game modes are introduced I think that some parts of this build may need a shave though.

As much as I want to cite this as an example, the same can be said of 3[insert class here].

i fought 2 terrormancers and 1 corrupt boon necro a few days ago, i never managed to reach a node before being ordered to run into a wall and die.
Don’t think rangers are the only one that is exceptionally annoying when you get multiple of same class.

just as a reminder – try have fun against 3 hambows or 3 minion mancers.

You know who counters rangers, Warriors.

I had a lovely evening making yesterday making a few rangers eat dirt like I was a school yard bully.

Really, warriors counter rangers? I beat most warriors even on my longbow ranger, imagine on my condi ranger lol.

The reason why you got wrecked was because your team was unable to back you up. S/D or D/P thieves will just camp power rangers all day. Warriors can eat their attacks while delivering more powerful hits of their own. Engineers has a kittening 1,200 range pull, Mesmers and Guardians can reflect and teleport and Elementalists can beat anything right now.

I can see Necromancers having issues, beaten by range and rely on Death Shroud that can be quickly widdled down safely by long ranged attacks.

The only thing that needs nerfing is Entangle. 60/48 seconds is WAY to short for such a powerful immobilize and immobilize stacking is already a massive pain in the kitten .

Fiorrello.8126:

You know who counters rangers, Warriors.

I had a lovely evening making yesterday making a few rangers eat dirt like I was a school yard bully.

Lol warrior is like one of the most easy class to beat as a power ranger compare to everyone else.

maybe i should quantify my claim.

i play a shout healing condi warrior with a warhorn.

every longbow ranger i’ve fought in spvp didn’t seem to have very good condi clear so i eat them for lunch with massive bleed stacks. ranged weakness also really takes the bite out of their rapid fire.

so yeah. in my experience condi warrior completely eats longbow ranger for lunch.

Power or condi ranger is so easy to play that most of them literally have no brain and will attack you even if you are reflecting. Just bring reflects.

i think to fight against 3 players with the same spec is always hard.
3 hambows? 3 Terror Necs? 3 Shatterer? 3 DD ele?
i am main ranger and not happy either to fight against all wanna be hunter who just play atm because the most think its OP now
I will wait what happens how many rangers are left when the next balance patch comes

Fiorrello.8126:

You know who counters rangers, Warriors.

I had a lovely evening making yesterday making a few rangers eat dirt like I was a school yard bully.

you think warrior got anything on the one class that has the evades and poison uptime needed to shut down their entire profession mechanic and healing signet in ONE weapon set. Not to mention one of the highest stability uptimes you can get.

Sir, please enlighten me how your warrior is a counter to a class that by design, has all the tools needed to completely shut down warriors.

Or 3 bunker Engies. those are always…nice.

how about 5 turret engis?

Epidemix Revenge.4862:

I am not one of those “Rangers longbow too stronk plx nrf pls” folks but let me tell you; I just had a game against 3 longbow rangers on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop PBS RF Barrage and Entangles from all ranges all over the map. If I wasn’t getting knocked on my kitten and rapid fired I was getting entangled and rapid fired and barraged at the same time.

I know I know L2P, L2Dodge, L2Block, L2Invuln etc etc. And I want to stress that again I am not claiming that LB zerker rangers are OP. I am saying that multiple rangers with their 1500 range short cooldown burst/CC make some games a nightmare.

If new game modes are introduced I think that some parts of this build may need a shave though.

Doesn’t sound as bad as when I’ve gone in games against multiple engies. They still have more CC than rangers with most builds.

I’d rather fight an army of bearbow rangers than 1 engi..

I just had a game against 3 guards on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of heals, boons and again heals

I just had a game against 3 turret engies on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of turrets, suply creates and cc’s

I just had a game against 3 mesmers on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of illusions and butterflies

I just had a game against 3 thieves on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of blinds,evades and 1shots

I just had a game against 3 necros on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of fears/minions

I just had a game against 3 eles on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of boons and heals

I just had a game against 3 hambows on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of cc’s and firefields

Anton.1769:

I just had a game against 3 guards on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of heals, boons and again heals

I just had a game against 3 turret engies on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of turrets, suply creates and cc’s

I just had a game against 3 mesmers on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of illusions and butterflies

I just had a game against 3 thieves on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of blinds,evades and 1shots

I just had a game against 3 necros on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of fears/minions

I just had a game against 3 eles on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of boons and heals

I just had a game against 3 hambows on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of cc’s and firefields

Ok so I guess its preference…

But to me getting downed from 1200-1500 range from 3 different angles is the mst frustrating thing of all. Even if its just 2 its awful. Its one thing to have a few engineers whom I can at least get to or if I choose; away from. But there is no escape from 3 1500 range rangers..especially when one or more have entangle. I was at temple so I’ll use it as example. They had a warrior mid so I go mid to engage and bam they had one ranger on the first ledge one up high and another came down bottom; toast.
I go temple empty. One ranger comes in front door one up top. Friendly thief comes to help they FF me down and he just ran away.

I try to go far I get jumped by 2 rangers from max range on either side in a pincer as they move in on me. Dead in 10 secs. I was playing shout warrior and I usually don’t die more than once a match.

tl:dr Yes 3 or more of the same can be irritating but I guess its the whole dying from attacks so far away that I can’t reach to retaliate is upsetting. And when there is more than one source that frustration multiplies. Nothing in this game causes more rage than to be made to feel helpless and that losing/death is inevitable

i understand what you are saying but when the match was starting did you take a look of who you were fighting? And what you team set up was? Like when i have my ranger or mesmer and i see 2 other softer classes i switch to a bunker i know that might just be me. I do understand the feeling though, keep at it

Epidemix Revenge.4862:

Anton.1769:

I just had a game against 3 guards on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of heals, boons and again heals

I just had a game against 3 turret engies on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of turrets, suply creates and cc’s

I just had a game against 3 mesmers on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of illusions and butterflies

I just had a game against 3 thieves on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of blinds,evades and 1shots

I just had a game against 3 necros on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of fears/minions

I just had a game against 3 eles on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of boons and heals

I just had a game against 3 hambows on temple map and it was the least fun I have had in GW2 in a long time. It was non stop spam of cc’s and firefields

Ok so I guess its preference…

But to me getting downed from 1200-1500 range from 3 different angles is the mst frustrating thing of all. Even if its just 2 its awful. Its one thing to have a few engineers whom I can at least get to or if I choose; away from. But there is no escape from 3 1500 range rangers..especially when one or more have entangle. I was at temple so I’ll use it as example. They had a warrior mid so I go mid to engage and bam they had one ranger on the first ledge one up high and another came down bottom; toast.
I go temple empty. One ranger comes in front door one up top. Friendly thief comes to help they FF me down and he just ran away.

I try to go far I get jumped by 2 rangers from max range on either side in a pincer as they move in on me. Dead in 10 secs. I was playing shout warrior and I usually don’t die more than once a match.

tl:dr Yes 3 or more of the same can be irritating but I guess its the whole dying from attacks so far away that I can’t reach to retaliate is upsetting. And when there is more than one source that frustration multiplies. Nothing in this game causes more rage than to be made to feel helpless and that losing/death is inevitable

Entangle max range is 600. You are lucky if it will land at that range. Especially if you are moving. So if you are being hit by entangle, said ranger is definitely not at 1500 range. It is within striking distance of most professions, including necromancers who have the hardest time with ranged attackers. Still, yes 2x LB rangers is a pain. So is 2x zerk thieves, or 2x mediguards (had the pleasure to fight that last night, or rather the agony of fighting them as they could shut down my whole team wherever they went)

Did you win or lose?