So what do you guys think about those cookie cut builds warrior and thief are useing?

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Posted by: MysticoN.5068

MysticoN.5068

Im playing a Guardian and im “tank” specced with almost 3,2k armor and 1200 healing power. I only have 13k + hp but thats seems to be enough in most cases due to high toughness and healing power.

I can surivive 2-3 players for some time, but if i come up against a pure dps build thief or some warriors i go down in +/- 5 sec.

I feel that i dont have a chance against those players, i might be lucky to dodge the right second but if i dont and my one cc break is on CD im done. Even if my CC break is ready i dont have time to use it in many cases. And to be honest most of the warriors and thiefs are running class cannon builds.

So my question is: What do you guys think about those builds? As a Defensive specced guardian i feel like im supose to be counter em abit bether then what i do. Do Arenanet intend to “one shot” in sPvP? Is it something that i should chance?

Running with mace / focus

It kinda ruin the game experience for me to be instant killed each time meet a thief/warrior.

MysticoN – 80 Necro
Draci – 80 Guardian ( on hold)
-Far Silverpeak-

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Posted by: Diage.6451

Diage.6451

I think you’ve over specced your armor. High armor is good, to a point. My guardian has about 17k hp, still not a lot, but enough to last me through most any spike. Other than that, if you know you’re gonna go against a lot of stun/spikes swap out a utility for stun breaks and save you aegis for when you get spiked. It should work out in your favor if you time things just right through that. Also, often times you can read people and dodge at the right moment to mitigate a large amount of damage. You might also consider the heal that blocks attacks, es op against melee spikers.

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Posted by: MysticoN.5068

MysticoN.5068

im useing that heal since it works with burn on block and might on block.

im running with:
Judge’s intervenstion – Aoe burn, stun break and heal
smite condition – condition remover + heal
contemplation of purity – convert the con into boons

elite is renewed focus

Anything you whould advice me to change?

MysticoN – 80 Necro
Draci – 80 Guardian ( on hold)
-Far Silverpeak-

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Posted by: Diage.6451

Diage.6451

Personally, I change my utilities almost every game. I hit b, look who I am against, and determine what will do the most damage to me. From there, I pick what I need to get the job done.

The normal set of skills I go in with are wall of reflection, stand your ground, and sanctuary. I almost always carry sanctuary with me, imo one of the best utility skills in the game. The other two I swap out though..

For example, if I look and see a lot of theives/warriors I figure there will be a lot of burst, so I will swap my wall to either contemplation of purity, save yourselves, or hold the line. Which just depends on what happens during the match.

Or perhaps, there is a huge amount of condis, then I might go to conemplation of purity and purging flames.

Then, whenever I am on khylo, I always start with stand your ground and hollowed ground if they have any potential for cc. Pretty much everyone takes cc on that map for middle.

Stun break, sanctuary, stack might and kill the glass cannon and you win

Added: Oh, and it sounds like you have shamans amulet. Perhaps consider changing the jewel to the one with a lot of vitality and adjusting your runes to something with more benefit to vitality for a boost which you don’t lose too much of what you have.

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Posted by: MistyMountains.3751

MistyMountains.3751

Defense specs slow down death…dont prevent it…tried a sword N board defensive spec warrior for a while…3100 armor/ 26k hp…still some dps spec thieves slaughtered it…which is sad…kinda defeats the basic paper rock scissor concept…like they pick and choose when this cliche should be used in game and when it doesnt go

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Posted by: Diage.6451

Diage.6451

Defense specs slow down death…dont prevent it…tried a sword N board defensive spec warrior for a while…3100 armor/ 26k hp…still some dps spec thieves slaughtered it…which is sad…kinda defeats the basic paper rock scissor concept…like they pick and choose when this cliche should be used in game and when it doesnt go

The guardians strengths honestly isn’t in their stats, it’s in the utility of their skills. Guardians have some of the lowest base hp I believe and still maintain a near unkillable at times survivability. You need to maintain bearable stats, but to be a true tank on a guardian, it is all about how you manage your skills and make certain you always have a way to save yourself until your next skill is off cooldown. As soon as your bar is all black, you’re dead.

The warrior doesn’t have the same set of utility, so even as a very tanky spec, you most likely over reached a marginal point somewhere. As a warrior, you probably should have a lot of control combined with those stats if you want to be survivable. They simply don’t have the large number of defensive options that a guardian does.

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Posted by: Konrad Curze.5130

Konrad Curze.5130

if you are dying to cookie cutter warriors, maybe you should google “GW2 dodge mechanic”

dont feel bad about dying to cookie cutter thieves, tho. its just normal, they are beyond insane in all regards

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Posted by: ZNICK.8537

ZNICK.8537

Defense specs slow down death…dont prevent it…tried a sword N board defensive spec warrior for a while…3100 armor/ 26k hp…still some dps spec thieves slaughtered it…which is sad…kinda defeats the basic paper rock scissor concept…like they pick and choose when this cliche should be used in game and when it doesnt go

Sometimes that’s all your job is though… stay alive long enough for help to come.

I sometimes play a defensive ranger and I can also hold off 2-3 people for a decent amount of time. 1v1 vs a thief I’m history… vs a warrior I usually win.

Z

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Posted by: Aelona.8572

Aelona.8572

then I might go to conemplation of purity

Depend of what you re facin, I’ll never use that against decent Mesmers / Necros

-Aelona / -Sygmaelle / -Ghinbi

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Posted by: Schwahrheit.4203

Schwahrheit.4203

HP = Also Tankiness. There is a threshold in how much toughness/defense can do.

Since people are negative about nerfs, how about we buff to balance then?