Guild Wars 2

The day before yesterday ( or before that ) I logged on and lost a ridiculous amount of matches and went from rank 30 to about 170. These were not “normal” losses they were a complete newb-stomp festival and even two of me could not have carried these newbs. Of course, I am top 50 again by now but it made me wonder how the matchmaking truly works.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think that there is no good ( non-visual ) way to measure ones capabilities as there is absolutely no indicator of someones skills; he might be playing cheese and the amount of points you score per game is also not a good indicator as one spec/role is likely to score more than an other. In fact, you can score a lot of points by being awful.

This leaves one other option and that is w:l ratio, the more you play the more accurate it will be as good people are still more likely to win than others so they have a slightly higher w:l ratio and therefore people with a lower amount of games played will rank up and rank down faster as it is less accurate. This would explain why my friend ranked up 40 more ranks than I by the same game, same team ( I went from 112 to 84 and he went from 124 to 62 ).

I would like to hear how it truly works and also why I got newb-stomped so severely and ridiculously often in a row? They were obviously bad – with bad I mean – worse than hot join. Yesterday too, I log on play first Solo Q game and get in a team with rank 20s’ only after that it was fine.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Matchmaking-rigged/first#post3437475

matchmaking system is made so u ll get team with lower ranks so u ll probably loose. System is designed so everybody gets around 50% win ratio.

Hopefully new matchmaking system will be made along with ladder system. I think hidden MMR should be implemented and teams should be created based on player’s hidden mmr, not rank becouse rank could have been gain on skyhammer farm or somewhere else i will not mention

i suggest play during high peak time or you will be teamed with nothhing but newbs and worst it will be skyhammer map 4 times in a row.

As far as I know, the matchmaker uses wins and losses to calculate your rating using a slightly modified glicko 2 system.

The reason for matches that have highly-ranked players in the same match as new players is usually low population times. If this happened a few days ago, it could be that the population spread was very messed up due to time of day/time of year (e.g. maybe more casuals are trying PvP while only three players from the top 500 are in the queue).

Anomalies can also happen, such as when a new player gets lucky with his teammates three or four times in a row and gets a horribly inflated rating.

The current matchmaking system uses YOUR HIDDEN MMR to find 10 people of similar MMR. Then it distributes the 10 to two teams as equally as possible.

But 10 people of really close MMR are never queing up at the same time…so you get some variation in the MMRs.

Yeah i get only 500/200 games or 200/500 games where in both cases I might as well go afk and the result will be the same regardless.

Noxrawr.6125:

Yeah i get only 500/200 games or 200/500 games where in both cases I might as well go afk and the result will be the same regardless.

Recently, a lot of solo queue players have actually started to go afk when they feel the game isn’t winnable. A lot of matches that would be close if everyone played to the end appear to be blowouts at the final score.

I can imagine that when your MMR puts you into the top 50 you just don’t have enough top 50 MMR people playing at any given time to have an even match.

Therefore you get placed with lower MMRs, and your high MMR means you have to join some very LOW MMRs on your team to balance your team average MMR versus the opposing team average MMR.

jimmyimo.2089:

Silentshoes.1805:

I can imagine that when your MMR puts you into the top 50 you just don’t have enough top 50 MMR people playing at any given time to have an even match.

Therefore you get placed with lower MMRs, and your high MMR means you have to join some very LOW MMRs on your team to balance your team average MMR versus the opposing team average MMR.

If this is truly the case then the entire system is beyond stupid. How is it even remotely fair to put someone with a high MMR with 4 newbs and then make the other team have 5 okay people to make up for the high MMR? This game is too spec-based for that. You cannot “just” own 3 people alone.

Just play during prime time to reduce your odds of it happening

jimmyimo.2089:

Silentshoes.1805:

I can imagine that when your MMR puts you into the top 50 you just don’t have enough top 50 MMR people playing at any given time to have an even match.

Therefore you get placed with lower MMRs, and your high MMR means you have to join some very LOW MMRs on your team to balance your team average MMR versus the opposing team average MMR.

If this is truly the case then the entire system is beyond stupid

Jimmy,

You will have to suggest a realistic alternative. Remember, you have to create a match without a LONG wait. And there is a wide variation in the MMRs.

So, you are not going to get an even match much of the time when there are about 40 people in the queue and four matches need to be ready to go ASAP.

I think what happens is a trampoline effect: people bounce into a high MMR, and then are teamed with low players to “carry”, and they lose a lot of matches and then they fall back in MMR again.

It doesn’t make sense to match players based on their W/L-ratio. A good player should always be matched with other good players (in both teams) … nobody cares about W/L-ratios. It’s about fairness und fun in each game – that’s what mmr should ensure by matching only players with similar mmr.
I know that there aren’t always enough players within an appropriate mmr-range available, but in some games it’s pretty obvious that the teams are extremely unbalanced and players could’ve been distributed in a fairer way – and this seems to happen quite often after a win-series.

i just got matched in teamQ vs Xl Super Xl + his fanclub while joining solo and all in my team joined solo and my ranking is only 88% – primetime EU^^

seriously there have to be a limit with how low the rank can be to can be matched with this guys when they have to wait longer than 10min +

top 1 should NEVER get matchup with lower ranks than top 200 or something

when there are no palyers to give them a fair match than say them “kitten happens we dont have enough players” but dont waste MY time

its just pathetic and broken^^ and i simply dont care hwen someone on top has to wait forever, i dont wanna waste my time to give them free ranks, points, wins or whatever …. i dont buyd this game to be canonfodder

thx