Guild Wars 2

I don’t know how the matchmaking mechanics work for the new Solo Queue, but it’s absolutely terrible at first sight.

I played my first game yesterday night, and all I got on my team was people with individual ranks of 10 and less: I am rank 42 with good experience in tournament play, and the opposite team had rank 20s and 30s. So what’s the deal with placing me with newbies who maybe never went in a tourny match?

THAT’S RIDICULOUS!

Solo Queue, I think -with its own leaderboard- was a much anticipated addition, but the sole fact that the matchmaking system is such fail makes it pointless to participate in and, well, unattractive.

I know that if I want my set team I just have to form one up and jump into Team Arenas, but what the hell! That doesn’t mean Solo Arena should pair me with complete newbies! At least give me people my rank. Don’t know why I should be carrying newcomers or get sinked into the abyss of the Solo Q Leaderboard.

• Rank doesn’t directly correlate to skill level. In fact, I don’t believe rank is even considered in the matchmaking process, nor should it be, it just uses the hidden ELO.
• Play some more matches to stabilize your rating, as you move up your groups will get better on average (but so will the opponents). This leader board is still new, so ratings will be pretty volatile for a while yet.
• Don’t read so much into a small sample size. Some games will be lopsided, some will be close and fun. Play it some more before you judge.
• Small player base. Unless you want to wait 30 mins for a queue pop, just take what you can get, especially off-peak hours.
• Relax, it’s just solo queue. Don’t get too uptight over winning or losing, you only have so much control over the result.

cymerdown.4103:

• Rank doesn’t directly correlate to skill level. In fact, I don’t believe rank is even considered in the matchmaking process, nor should it be, it just uses the hidden ELO.
• Play some more matches to stabilize your rating, as you move up your groups will get better on average (but so will the opponents). This leader board is still new, so ratings will be pretty volatile for a while yet.
• Don’t read so much into a small sample size. Some games will be lopsided, some will be close and fun. Play it some more before you judge.
• Small player base. Unless you want to wait 30 mins for a queue pop, just take what you can get, especially off-peak hours,
• Relax, it’s just solo queue. Don’t get too uptight over winning or losing, you only have so much control over the result.

Doesnt even matter what u said here im tired of being put on the same team as low ranking players. u say it doesnt matter their rank U ARE VERRY MUCH WRONG every single match ive been put in. these low ranks. ruin it.. because they have absolutely NO CLUE as to what they are doing.. they just run around trying to kill kitten .. and get stomped on constantly. which incourse= ur team loosing because a select few of LOW RANKING players… ruin the whole match for u and the rest of the team.. ranks do matter.. it shows how much uve actually played spvp and tpvp. They seriously need to change this crap man im always comming ontop.. with over 200+ points.. in mostly every match and yet i see my other teammates having less than 60 Something is obviously wrong there im tired of loosing rank. because im constantly. having horrid. ppl on my team every like 4 matches i loose.. then finally get on a team with my rank and win 1 then back to loosing again -_-

matchmaking system is the same of team queue. if you’re so good and experienced as you say you will move up, and noobs will move down with time.
Do you think when LoL resets seasons pro players dont play with new players and bronze players for the first few days?

Ah just as I predicted prior Solo que release, people are QQing because they get teamed up with noobs. BoooHooo, this is soloque where you get teamed up with randoms. That’s what soloque does, it’s what it stands for. Deal with it. Do you think you’re the only one that has his rank tanked by inexperienced and/or selfish players that don’t want to listen to simple directions? Well GUESS AGAIN! Everyone has to deal with it, so stop being childish. Seriously that’s the only word I can use right now.

I played Random Arena in GW1 for years, got to gladiator rank 7. There was no match-up system that would take care that you get teamed up with other similar ranked players, no system, that would take care that you face a team with similar ranks as your team has, no system that would take care that class distribution is fair… no one cried about all that stuff. There are good games with good players, and there are bad games with bad players. It happens to everyone, now seriously stop crying and deal with it.

If Anet put in all the filters that you guys want on this forum right now:

1. rank filter
2. class distribution filter
3. no more than 2 of the same class in 1 team filter
4. no people of the same guild in one team filter
.
.
.

It would make for the most complex match-up system ever kittening created and que times would be 1 week long. The only important point up there is #4, everything else is NOT.

samo.1054:

If Anet put in all the filters that you guys want on this forum right now:

1. rank filter
2. class distribution filter
3. no more than 2 of the same class in 1 team filter
4. no people of the same guild in one team filter
.
.
.

It would make for the most complex match-up system ever kittening created and que times would be 1 week long.

You are wrong, lol. Que times would be about 1-10 mins, and i’m okay with it. For now que times are about 0-30 seconds.
Fast or balanced matchmaking? I choose balanced. Hotjoin heroes choose fast.

Uhm, I had 5-7 minutes at EU peak times yesterday.

Socram.6587:

Uhm, I had 5-7 minutes at EU peak times yesterday.

Dunno, last time i played it was not longer than 1 minute. Even if i was lucky, spreading 10 players in 2 teams according to their ranks and classes isn’t that hard. Even if there are 5+ players of the same classes, both teams will get nearly the same amount of them.
The main problem is low rank players, i think. Just don’t let them play in soloq tournaments.

cymerdown.4103:

• Rank doesn’t directly correlate to skill level. In fact, I don’t believe rank is even considered in the matchmaking process, nor should it be, it just uses the hidden ELO.
• Play some more matches to stabilize your rating, as you move up your groups will get better on average (but so will the opponents). This leader board is still new, so ratings will be pretty volatile for a while yet.
• Don’t read so much into a small sample size. Some games will be lopsided, some will be close and fun. Play it some more before you judge.
• Small player base. Unless you want to wait 30 mins for a queue pop, just take what you can get, especially off-peak hours.
• Relax, it’s just solo queue. Don’t get too uptight over winning or losing, you only have so much control over the result.

cymer,

I don’t see you on the SoloQ leaderboard. Wait until you have played some SoloQ matches, including some with 4 on your team against 5 on the other, as see if you still agree with your points.

Problem is that afaik – for some reason(can you please explain why, ArenaNet?) – they copied the old leaderboards and ratings and are now using them for the TeamArena.

Which means all the tons of players that played solo at the old system don’t have a rating now…

Because SoloArena starts without rating.

I don’t know why ArenaNet did this. They should have made it the other way round:
TeamArena starting with a new leaderboard and copying the old leadarboard to SoloArena.

This would have hurt less people cause I’m sure the majority is queuing solo(and if a lot of people at the forums are going to say the opposite now then this won’t mean anything… cause the majority is not even in active at the forums… more of the “pros” tend to go to the forums… and of course more pros = more playing Team queue).

I’m on it, check again.

Silentshoes.1805:

cymerdown.4103:

• Rank doesn’t directly correlate to skill level. In fact, I don’t believe rank is even considered in the matchmaking process, nor should it be, it just uses the hidden ELO.
• Play some more matches to stabilize your rating, as you move up your groups will get better on average (but so will the opponents). This leader board is still new, so ratings will be pretty volatile for a while yet.
• Don’t read so much into a small sample size. Some games will be lopsided, some will be close and fun. Play it some more before you judge.
• Small player base. Unless you want to wait 30 mins for a queue pop, just take what you can get, especially off-peak hours.
• Relax, it’s just solo queue. Don’t get too uptight over winning or losing, you only have so much control over the result.

cymer,

I don’t see you on the SoloQ leaderboard. Wait until you have played some SoloQ matches, including some with 4 on your team against 5 on the other, as see if you still agree with your points.

Some people don’t flip out after losing a few mismatched games. It is possible for people to relax and enjoy the game, through wins and losses both.

No your right in a way. Even when the solo que adjusts youll still have unfair matches due to rank imbalance and profession imbalance. I know it cant check names and make sure the celebs aren’t on same team but most of them are rank 60 and when you got 3 rank 60s on a team…. yeah that matchmaking.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Everyone started with default ratings for solo arena. This means your matches will get better the more you play. Team Arena was not touched. As was already mentioned above, the matchmaking methods are the same for both arenas.

The problem with solo q arena in a team reliant game is that you are not the one who decides if you win or not. If you win against bad people you dont gain much rank and if you loose against them you will always stuck between them. One person is not enough to carry a entire team all the time (especially with the wrong class). It is not like in team q, that you can upgrade to a good team and gain rank fairly easily when your skill level is decent enough.
So if you have bad luck in the beginning you get stucked between pve daily players, which will not here your advises and reaching the top becomes much harder – thats a simple cycle. I think there must be other indicators like pure win/loss ratio which have to be considered in a good solo q environment system. (In team q win/loss might be enough).

And the luck when enemy team is 35+ and in my team lvl 10, 7, 20, 15….

tis bad. RANDOM is KEY. with the match making, what you get are bunched up rank 30s vs a rank 20, rank 19, rank 15, rank 21 and a rank 1.

with random

youll get a rank 31, rank 32 rank 15, rank 21 and rank 20 vs rank 33, rank 31, rank 34, rank 19 and rank 1.

Randomizaton will balance itself.

Stopped doing tourneys months ago because of afkers and premades. Seems they sort of fixed the premade issue but afkers and leavers are still rampant with the penalty

…Rank doesn’t directly correlate to skill level…

I agree with your statement. However, it matters when you don’t choose -and have had the chance to “test”- your teammates.

…Play some more matches to stabilize your rating …

…if you’re so good and experienced as you say you will move up, and noobs will move down with time…

You guys simply don’t get it, and I’ve made myself very clear on my first post. They are SINKING me, these newbies don’t know what the hell they’re doing and as one person on my five man team I can’t carry all of them, even when I backcap like mad with my Blink and Portal.

…Relax, it’s just solo queue. Don’t get too uptight over winning or losing, you only have so much control over the result…

I agree that I don’t have as much control as with a Team Arena group, but my competitive spirit is still there, and there’s a leaderboard to allow my competitiveness to be.

…Ah just as I predicted prior Solo que release, people are QQing because they get teamed up with noobs…

Do you want a medal, man? Everybody, including me, knew there would be QQing. It has to be done when such frustrating things -getting teamed up with complete newbies- happen. I don’t mind loosing if it was a good, competitive match. But stomping noobs all over and being destroyed because of the lack of efficient and basic teamplay, I don’t fancy that.

…I played Random Arena in GW1…

I won’t even read your post further man, your comparing an arena with no leaderboards -no competitiveness- with one that has one. Think before using these fingers on your keyboards.

alcopaul.2156:

tis bad. RANDOM is KEY. with the match making, what you get are bunched up rank 30s vs a rank 20, rank 19, rank 15, rank 21 and a rank 1.

with random

youll get a rank 31, rank 32 rank 15, rank 21 and rank 20 vs rank 33, rank 31, rank 34, rank 19 and rank 1.

Randomizaton will balance itself.

Have you never played a competitive game before? If you have, you’d know that random matchmaking is the polar opposite of what a competitive game is supposed to be. Solo arena came out yesterday, it’s going to take time for things to balance out. Right now everyone has a fresh rating, so everyone is playing everyone. As time goes on, ratings will balance out, and you’ll start seeing more balanced teams. This happens in every game when everyone has default rating, there’s really nothing ANet can do right now.

They making solo que as perfectly balanced as they can, here is the wait timer.

Time before next match begins one week.

uberkingkong.8041:

They making solo que as perfectly balanced as they can, here is the wait timer.

Time before next match begins one week.

Haha, if that’s how much time they need to fix the solo queue mess then let them have it!