Split Elite specs from Core specs

Split Elite specs from Core specs

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

A simple idea:

  • If you use a elite spec all the traits/skills from core will be different than when you do not use an Elite spec.

Meaning:

  • If Powerful Aura is just right in Tempest but too weak in Elementalist, ANet can just buff Powerful Aura in the Elementalist line but the tempest Powerful Aura remains untouched.
  • ANet can nerf the passive procs in the core line if an elite specs give a class too many of them.

Why it matters:

  • In the future, Traits will be a mess and it will be balanced with two elite specs. By splitting elite specs, ANet can achieve better balance. Buffing or nerfing a core spec will not break either Elite specs.
  • Core specs can be balanced better without accounting for Elite Spec being OP with it.
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Posted by: Aktium.9506

Aktium.9506

  • In the future, Traits will be a mess and it will be balanced with two elite specs

This is flat out wrong tho. You will never be able to equip more than one elite specialization at a time and it will always have to be in the third and last traitline slot. The reason they did this in the first place was so they could balance the elite specs around the core traits and not the other way around. The very idea was they should not have to fiddle with the core traits.

Anet’s failing to do so with the first batch of elite specs is rather irrelevant until we see if it happens again with the next set of elite specializations. Until then the idea is still sound, if they can just stick to it.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

  • In the future, Traits will be a mess and it will be balanced with two elite specs

This is flat out wrong tho. You will never be able to equip more than one elite specialization at a time and it will always have to be in the third and last traitline slot. The reason they did this in the first place was so they could balance the elite specs around the core traits and not the other way around. The very idea was they should not have to fiddle with the core traits.

Anet’s failing to do so with the first batch of elite specs is rather irrelevant until we see if it happens again with the next set of elite specializations. Until then the idea is still sound, if they can just stick to it.

It seems you misunderstand.

ANet nerfed Moa because it was too strong with Chronomancer continium time split. It hurt core mesmer really badly

In the mesmer second elite specialization, a core trait may be way too strong for the second elite specialization but is fine with Chronomancer. ANet may nerf that core trait.

With my suggestion, the core trait becomes nerfed for the second elite specialization while chronomancer still takes the unnerfed version.

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Posted by: Aktium.9506

Aktium.9506

That sounds like it would require a lot more active balancing work from Anet. Ain’t never happening if that’s the case.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

That sounds like it would require a lot more active balancing work from Anet. Ain’t never happening if that’s the case.

If ANet wants to lose the pay2win expansion. They’ll have to do that.

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Posted by: Lord Rex.4261

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This entire thing would render elite specs a mere decoration. No chance.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

This entire thing would render elite specs a mere decoration. No chance.

Only if Elite specs is very underpowered compared to core or ‘other’ hypothetical elite specs.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

A simple idea:

  • If you use a elite spec all the traits/skills from core will be different than when you do not use an Elite spec.

Meaning:

  • If Powerful Aura is just right in Tempest but too weak in Elementalist, ANet can just buff Powerful Aura in the Elementalist line but the tempest Powerful Aura remains untouched.
  • ANet can nerf the passive procs in the core line if an elite specs give a class too many of them.

Why it matters:

  • In the future, Traits will be a mess and it will be balanced with two elite specs. By splitting elite specs, ANet can achieve better balance. Buffing or nerfing a core spec will not break either Elite specs.
  • Core specs can be balanced better without accounting for Elite Spec being OP with it.

How about we work in core specs instead and bring them up to snuff?

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