Guild Wars 2

Think about a 2v2. A warrior (or almost any other class) can tank damage so the other person doesnt have to. If you go in to stealth you all of a sudden make it a 2v1 and ur teammate will be killed extremely fast and you will have to run. Stealth is kind of an underpowered mechanic in PvP because it takes you out of the game. This is why most thieves never trait into shadow arts. The only viable thief build at the moment is S/D and it focuses on evades so it can tank damage like all the other classes. The only other sort of viable build is burst which doesnt have much stealth. Thieves in stealth just make the other team focus harder on its teammates.

Wow people finally realized this after a year +. I realized this practically the first week (scratch that, within the first hour of playing my thief) I started playing this game.

lolthread omg this is why u cant trake forums srsly

Yeah, everyone should play without any armor equiped too.

Because if you have a higher defense your enemies will focus your teammates harder.

Rengaru.4730:

Yeah, everyone should play without any armor equiped too.

Because if you have a higher defense your enemies will focus your teammates harder.

Stealth makes someone else on ur team (most likely the other DPS class) get focused twice as hard while u just sit in stealth and do nothing.

Stealth could be just removed from spvp tbh. Leave it for the wvw trolls and duel braggers.

Ya but if they removed it thieves would be completely useless. Its probably too late for it to be removed anyways lol.

If they buff stealth, imagine the consequences for WvW where thieves are already borderline OP thanks to stealth. The problem is not stealth. The problem is conquest mode which is still the only option in sPvP.

guys just by the way…

kittening shadow refuge is one of the best rezz utilities and stomp denial

just sayin @ lololololol wvw trolls duel braggers

Up is down, left is right, being invisible is underpowered because people don’t attack you.

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kitten it im done..I ve seen everything.kittening op is a clueless idiot ..im sorry
Stealth is underpowered? Why?
Disengage from lost battles and making enemies lose your position as you already are on your way to reinforce somewhere else or decap far is UNDERPOWERED?
Stealthing your team or/and yourself for an out of the blue gib on an enemy player and cause a fight on your favor is UNDERPOWERED?
Denying stomps and relieving pressure while ressing from all single target attacks/ccs is UNDERPOWERED?
Also do you even play this game??People ALWAYS FOCUS TARGET ON A TEAMFIGHT
regardless of you being in stealth or not..
Jesus wtf is happening?!Is this game dead and trolls have taken over already ?
And how the kitten do you think stealth should be buffed?Do you want an invincibility attached to it as well?
I feel dumber just from reading this topic and i hope its some kind of trolling..

Im talking about smaller teamfights. While stealth is a good way to not be focused. You can’t do any damage while in it so u are useless. Why do you think most good PvP players use 0 shadow arts? WvW is a different story however and it is true that this is due to conquest. Either a thief is doing damage and an easy target or he is not doing anything and invisible. I never said it is useless but in conquest it can be counterproductive

This is ludicrous. Without stealth in any 2 v2 a thief would be targeted and spiked down fast even with all the evades some specs have. Its better to be able to basically force the opposition to have to take down another class which will certainly be harder to kill then a thief. Also, in any 2 v 2 both sides should be focusing on one target regardless. One player will always have 2 people targeting him.

Kwll.1468:

This is ludicrous. Without stealth in any 2 v2 a thief would be targeted and spiked down fast even with all the evades some specs have. Its better to be able to basically force the opposition to have to take down another class which will certainly be harder to kill then a thief. Also, in any 2 v 2 both sides should be focusing on one target regardless. One player will always have 2 people targeting him.

It is true that 1 guy will have to on him. But if the thief is in stealth then he is doing nothing. At least other classes can do something while being tanky.

I’ve always used stealth to break target, heal up and/or let a second or two tick off my cool downs.

Some of you make it sound like once a thief goes into stealth that he’s not coming back.

Thief is not supposed to be there when enemies start pouring in. They are meant to engage enemies alone and disappear when the dirty deed has been done. Stealth is by no means under powered, most would argue the opposite.

Caffynated.5713:

Up is down, left is right, being invisible is underpowered because people don’t attack you.

Welcome to the new generation of GW2 forum emos.

Making a really stupid argument for thieves might be the only way to bring to light the really stupid arguments people make against thieves – common sense certainly hasn’t worked up until this point.

Lol shadow refuge is like the most OP utility in the game.

I could argue normal stealth is balanced, but long group stealth like shadow refuge is ridicolously OP.

Thieves haven’t been OP for weeks in WvW. It’s a matter of you not stacking glass, learning how a thief plays, and what it can and cannot do. The more you know the easier they are to counter.

Demonts.4593:

Think about a 2v2. A warrior (or almost any other class) can tank damage so the other person doesnt have to. If you go in to stealth you all of a sudden make it a 2v1 and ur teammate will be killed extremely fast and you will have to run. Stealth is kind of an underpowered mechanic in PvP because it takes you out of the game. This is why most thieves never trait into shadow arts. The only viable thief build at the moment is S/D and it focuses on evades so it can tank damage like all the other classes. The only other sort of viable build is burst which doesnt have much stealth. Thieves in stealth just make the other team focus harder on its teammates.

That’s the point of stealth. You don’t seem to understand, stealth is a lone wolf mechanic by design. That’s the way stealth is intended to be used. It’s like saying that bunkers don’t do enough damage to kill people fast. That’s the point, they’re not supposed to. Stealth is supposed to save thieves from dying and aid them in beating people 1v1. It’s ridiculously overpowered on both of those, especially when thieves perma (d/p) stealth.

The mechanic isn’t intended to be a selfless party helping mechanic. You’re saying it’s underpowered because it underperforms in one setting, which is true. But it was never meant to perform well in that setting to begin with.

I am Underpowered, o_o!!! How dare you say that in my presence, though the honour is mine :P

Back to the topic: LoL >→

P/S: My apologize for being non-constructive. I am speechless ._.!!!!

Recreate the GW1 assassin, all thief problems and QQ solved. Stealth is a terrible mechanic in any game, it’s cheap and I don’t even find it fun to use.

Similar to mesmer clone mechanics, it just takes no skill. Just another thing that baffles me about ANet being obsessed with being different yet they recreate the rogue from WoW with a twist (lolspamstealth) instead of keeping with a really original class, the assassin that only used shadow steps and combo attacks, lead offhand and dual.

Confusion and cheap tactics should never be in a game that claims to be e-sport. Rofl.

Hurry up…call the THIEF QQ SQUAD our op-mancers are going mad on this topic

Demonts.4593:

while u just sit in stealth and do nothing.

Thats where you go wrong. imho.